Aquanite

[Kirbyallstar]

I believe they are weak to range because I find them terribly easy. Have you guys tried ranging them?

 

P.S. What's a good free program that lets me record vids? I want to show how I do them with no healing items.

[Sirknudsen]

i play for fun. these are fun. try them out and see what you think. and tbh i have such bad luck with drops its a bonnus for me to get a good drop

How are they fun? They have really high defense, are very far apart and hit for alot of damage(and all of this assuming maxed stats/equipment)? Not a good task by any standard.

 

Subjective.

It's always a good idea for people to try a task out once, because some people actually find them fun.

By that logic you can't say anything about any task being good.

 

However, assuming you have a brain, most slayer tasks are actually very similar and you can easily categorize them. 'Nites are a no-cannon no-familiar(combat) melee task(much like kurdal dungeon tasks) only that the monsters have really high defense, turmoil doesn't work on them and they do alot of damage(and praying is not a possibility). I'm very pessimistic about anyone calling hitting 0s fun(and as some CLS fanboys say, hitting high is also fun), nor do i think running back and forth to pick up drops, attack new monsters alot of fun, so even though fun is subjective, in this case, it can easily be quantified.

 

 

I pray my nite tasks, I can run a 180+ task without banking...it's all about how you do it...of course if you try and tank every single kill you'll end up banking multiple times...I think the main reason people despise this task is the lack of knowledge to do it correctly? if that's even the right phrase I'm after.

[green9090]

I pray my nite tasks, I can run a 180+ task without banking...it's all about how you do it...of course if you try and tank every single kill you'll end up banking multiple times...I think the main reason people despise this task is the lack of knowledge to do it correctly? if that's even the right phrase I'm after.

Most of us hating on aquanites in this thread can soul split them, which eliminates the need to pray and bank. They're bad because they're spread out and have high defense, PLUS crappy drops.

[Sirknudsen]

I pray my nite tasks, I can run a 180+ task without banking...it's all about how you do it...of course if you try and tank every single kill you'll end up banking multiple times...I think the main reason people despise this task is the lack of knowledge to do it correctly? if that's even the right phrase I'm after.

Most of us hating on aquanites in this thread can soul split them, which eliminates the need to pray and bank. They're bad because they're spread out and have high defense, PLUS crappy drops.

 

 

I seem to hit 400's on them fairly regularly with a zs super atk/str and the 10% str prayer so their def can't be that high...and I can see where your coming from on them being spread out a bit it's a bit of a hassle...and If you're going to base a task solely on drops do you skip dark beasts as well??

[xpx]

I pray my nite tasks, I can run a 180+ task without banking...it's all about how you do it...of course if you try and tank every single kill you'll end up banking multiple times...I think the main reason people despise this task is the lack of knowledge to do it correctly? if that's even the right phrase I'm after.

Most of us hating on aquanites in this thread can soul split them, which eliminates the need to pray and bank. They're bad because they're spread out and have high defense, PLUS crappy drops.

 

 

I seem to hit 400's on them fairly regularly with a zs super atk/str and the 10% str prayer so their def can't be that high...and I can see where your coming from on them being spread out a bit it's a bit of a hassle...and If you're going to base a task solely on drops do you skip dark beasts as well??

Their def isn't terribly high but as i said, turmoil doesn't work on them and there is no extra damage, so even though their def is around the same as abyssals, the xp is much lower(29k vs. 36k). Ranging is horrible because...ranging is horrible(there is no reason to waste more money for worse performance). Also, i have 'nites unlocked and have done quite a few tasks with turm/rapier/overloads so i'd know how bad they are. Even having unicorn doesn't cover all the healing and you'll still need SS, meaning they do around as much damage as steel dragons.

 

By the way, numbers you hit mean nothing(having high defense doesn't mean you'll hit lower).

[SirIzenhime]

even you yourself once said that the perfect perm block list are the ones you hate most. I see nothing wrong with telling someone to try them once (not unlock the task though...), if they really like them...I don't see anything wrong with it.

[green9090]

I pray my nite tasks, I can run a 180+ task without banking...it's all about how you do it...of course if you try and tank every single kill you'll end up banking multiple times...I think the main reason people despise this task is the lack of knowledge to do it correctly? if that's even the right phrase I'm after.

Most of us hating on aquanites in this thread can soul split them, which eliminates the need to pray and bank. They're bad because they're spread out and have high defense, PLUS crappy drops.

 

 

I seem to hit 400's on them fairly regularly with a zs super atk/str and the 10% str prayer so their def can't be that high...and I can see where your coming from on them being spread out a bit it's a bit of a hassle...and If you're going to base a task solely on drops do you skip dark beasts as well??

For a slayer monster, aquanites have high defense. That's not really something arguable, just a fact. Compare number of 0s you hit there to the majority of other tasks (dust devils, bloodveld, greater/black demons, gargoyles, aberrant specters, nechryael, etc etc etc) and the difference is very clear.

 

Dark beasts drop decent effigies and are extremely AFKable. They also have low defense and high hp AND they come to you even while you're already fighting one, making them incredibly fast exp. There is simply no comparison to be made between dark beasts and aquanites, I'm not sure why you brought it up.

[Bladewing]

even you yourself once said that the perfect perm block list are the ones you hate most. I see nothing wrong with telling someone to try them once (not unlock the task though...), if they really like them...I don't see anything wrong with it.

no one is contesting that

 

we are just stating FACTS about aquanites - obviously what you block is up to you and we cannot control that

 

the facts are that aquanites are objectively inferior in xp to all of kuradal's tasks (except mithrils), as well as being subpar in gp and charm drops.

[SirIzenhime]

even you yourself once said that the perfect perm block list are the ones you hate most. I see nothing wrong with telling someone to try them once (not unlock the task though...), if they really like them...I don't see anything wrong with it.

no one is contesting that

 

we are just stating FACTS about aquanites - obviously what you block is up to you and we cannot control that

 

the facts are that aquanites are objectively inferior in xp to all of kuradal's tasks (except mithrils), as well as being subpar in gp and charm drops.

 

Sure seemed like xpx was.

[xpx]

even you yourself once said that the perfect perm block list are the ones you hate most. I see nothing wrong with telling someone to try them once (not unlock the task though...), if they really like them...I don't see anything wrong with it.

That is if there is something likable about tasks. Wyverns freeze you, does anyone find that fun? I usually finish tasks before even caring about when they'll be finished, but 'nites have to be one of the most boring tasks ever- i seem to constantly check my ring for how long i have to endure the **** of hitting 0's with max offense. 'Nites AREN'T fun, that's for sure.

[SirIzenhime]

so, since you don't like them, that means no one else will? I happen to like Wyverns myself, they have good charms, are profitable, and don't take very long since you don't get assigned a lot of them.

I'm not saying Aquanites are good, I agree when you take charms, profit, and xp into account, they're the opposite. But to display them as being purely unlikable....no, you can't do that, because what people like is completely subjective.

[xpx]

so, since you don't like them, that means no one else will? I happen to like Wyverns myself, they have good charms, are profitable, and don't take very long since you don't get assigned a lot of them.

I'm not saying Aquanites are good, I agree when you take charms, profit, and xp into account, they're the opposite. But to display them as being purely unlikable....no, you can't do that, because what people like is completely subjective.

No, because there is nothing likable about them, you should never buy the ability to be assigned them. And remember, it's not as though if you grow tired of them you can lose the ability to be assigned them- you'll just lose a block spot for nothing(which is a big loss in money/xp). Classifying fun as completely subjective is a view of morons- fun can and is very easily quantifiable(it's actually quite like total energy- it's almost impossible to gauge the total energy of a system, but you can easily compare the energy difference between two systems).

[Obtaurian]

Yeah, it's actually not very subjective. Aquanites are not fun. For any reason that anyone could come up with for liking aquanites, I can come up with a more valid reason for blocking them.

[kingmickez25]

If i get a mod to lock this thread do i win?

[Obtaurian]

If i get a mod to lock this thread do i win?

 

Only if you choose not to do an aquanites task ever again.

[Sir_Squab]

Yeah, it's actually not very subjective. Aquanites are not fun. For any reason that anyone could come up with for liking aquanites, I can come up with a more valid reason for blocking them.

 

Yeah, but the moment ONE person finds them fun, it well.... proves that some people find them fun. Which actually does seem to prove that fun is objective. Why not agree to disagree?

 

I still wish kuradel would toggle them instead of just a turn-on option. I'd actually really like a task of these to try them out, but I don't dare turn it on for fear that I'll hate them, want to block them, and lose one of my spots. Might try killing them w/o a task of them, but eh.... Dunno, don't really want to camp monsters w/o a task, and plus I'd miss out on full slayer helm bonus.

[Obtaurian]

But that's the thing -- for any reason there is to like aquanites, there's a different task that is better for the same reason. You like expensive drops? Abyssal demons, dark beasts, spirit mages, and ice wyrms drop better items more frequently. You like blue charms? A lot of tasks are much better charm droppers, and cancelling aquas would increase the rate at which you'd gather charms. You like monsters that have high defense, are in single combat, are un-cannonable, disable protection prayers, hit hard, and can't be turmoiled properly? Yeah, aquanites are for you.

 

But who likes that stuff? No one.

[SirIzenhime]

sorry, it's still subjective. I know a friend who liked to camp them. I don't know why he did, nor did I care. He liked it so he did it. I'm not saying to Unlock them for kuradal to assign (when did I ever say this? I'd love to know), I'm saying to randomly gear up, and go try them for a half hour or so.

 

If he doesn't like them, then he shouldn't unlock them. If he does, why shouldn't he unlock them? It's just another task for him to do that he enjoys.

 

Fun is subjective, try them out, if you hate them, don't unlock them. You have your info in this thread about why "MOST" people don't like them. Go from there.

[lordkafei]

See, I wouldn't mind trying them out once if Kuradel assigned em.... but I don't want to unlock something just to discover I want it locked again; I can't truly lock it back up. Yeah, I could block it, but then I have to unblock something else on my list... if it was an on/off thing that you paid 50 slayer points every time you toggled it, I'd definitely unlock them. THEN the worse case scenario is I hate them, do one bad task and lose 100 slayer points - but I'd learn from that.

 

Unless I am mistaken, you don't have to be on task to go kill aquanites. They aren't aggressive, so you don't have to worry about getting piled on. You can experiment with setups & strategies before you unlock.

 

They are weak to stab (think leaf-bladed sword / rune defender or Z-spear) and drop a lot of raw fish. Still, I prefer a unicorn over a bunyip. Wear your best hides (or similar mage defense armor) and have fun.

 

IT’S A GAME, NOT A JOB.

[Bladewing]

Wear your best hides (or similar mage defense armor) and have fun.

have fun.

haha oh man post of the week

 

or were you not being sarcastic

[green9090]

See, I wouldn't mind trying them out once if Kuradel assigned em.... but I don't want to unlock something just to discover I want it locked again; I can't truly lock it back up. Yeah, I could block it, but then I have to unblock something else on my list... if it was an on/off thing that you paid 50 slayer points every time you toggled it, I'd definitely unlock them. THEN the worse case scenario is I hate them, do one bad task and lose 100 slayer points - but I'd learn from that.

 

Unless I am mistaken, you don't have to be on task to go kill aquanites. They aren't aggressive, so you don't have to worry about getting piled on. You can experiment with setups & strategies before you unlock.

 

They are weak to stab (think leaf-bladed sword / rune defender or Z-spear) and drop a lot of raw fish. Still, I prefer a unicorn over a bunyip. Wear your best hides (or similar mage defense armor) and have fun.

 

ITS A GAME, NOT A JOB.

I seriously almost fell for this troll until "and have fun."

 

Well played.

[Zaaps1]

I think the general assumption around here if that you if you are going to a Help and Advice board, you are look for, well, help and advice. Not fun necessarily. If someone was to go kill Aquanites for fun, who are we to say they can't have fun? But then again, why bother asking for help at all, in that case?

[SirIzenhime]

the OP asked for a setup to kill them. He got his answer, as well as everyone telling him they aren't fun.

OTHER PEOPLE brought Fun into the topic, not the OP. All I'm trying to point out is that you can't simply tell someone something isn't fun. You can tell them what to expect...which has been done very well already, but not tell them they won't like them. I wasn't the first to bring up fun factor here.

 

I'd also like to know how Lord's post was a troll...he's right...you use a stab weapon, and wear magic resistant armor...

[tripsis]

Whoa whoa whoa :P I think we all need to relax a little bit. Take some and pass it on:

 

 

That being said..

 

If i get a mod to lock this thread do i win?

I locked it so I win!

 

Locked on request/question answered