Surely not proven, but highly certain

If you want we can make 10-20 duels. I will use saradomin brews to lower my attack and magic to 1. You will wear at least black dragonhide ... Surely if the sword can miss the chance will be higher with this setup. As for the damage I can use Super/Extreme str pots to return my str to its original level.

Surely not proven, but highly certain

If you want we can make 10-20 duels. I will use saradomin brews to lower my attack and magic to 1. You will wear at least black dragonhide ... Surely if the sword can miss the chance will be higher with this setup. As for the damage I can use Super/Extreme str pots to return my str to its original level.

 

you could also just go to safe pvp ffa on w68

Surely not proven, but highly certain

If you want we can make 10-20 duels. I will use saradomin brews to lower my attack and magic to 1. You will wear at least black dragonhide ... Surely if the sword can miss the chance will be higher with this setup. As for the damage I can use Super/Extreme str pots to return my str to its original level.

you could also just go to safe pvp ffa on w68

Yeah .. having 0 witnesses is a good idea.

Ancient...if you haven't even proven it yourself...who are you to call other people out who haven't proven the other way around?

Ancient...if you haven't even proven it yourself...who are you to call other people out who haven't proven the other way around?

Surely not proven, but highly certain

<-- this was referring to me

 

yes i haven't done any rigorous analysis of it, and certainly haven't "proved" it, but i'm so confident about it that i think there's really no point to testing of it. i've survived so many KS specs cause of pray and mage-def armor... a huge amount of my play time is in safe pvp so i should know. plus ive gotten good at tanking KS specs; its the only way i can beat 5+ 130's

 

i mean if you really want to test it rigorously, go for it... i just think it's a waste of time

I can understand prayer reducing damage, but how can you really test a 100% accuracy spec in a luck based system against magic def armor?

And you say you've survived 5 130s? In Multi-combat? Did you know the power of the spec is REDUCED in multi?

 

Just don't tell people they're wrong when you can't really show them otherwise, and when you don't even 100% know yourself.

Yeah, having some high level armor that isn't ridiculously expensive would be nice. A fair price tag, but not too much...:razz:

How about.... You just can't start out combat on players with a spec weapon... Need to do 1 - 3 attacks (WITH THE SAME WEAPON, to prevent dart use) before you can use the special.

 

 

Would upset a few pkers but would make far more happy.

I can understand prayer reducing damage, but how can you really test a 100% accuracy spec in a luck based system against magic def armor?

And you say you've survived 5 130s? In Multi-combat? Did you know the power of the spec is REDUCED in multi?

 

Just don't tell people they're wrong when you can't really show them otherwise, and when you don't even 100% know yourself.

 

no, it was in single person 1v1. i've survived more; after tanking the spec the key is to use summ pots, blood barrage, etc.

 

and lol... like i said, no rigorous statistics are needed. if you don't want to trust my personal experience, then test it yourself, because i'm like 99% certain. there's also NO way to literally "Prove" it other than to find out the damage formula itself; nothing from our side can be proved with 100% certainty. but that's really just semantics.

Go use Korasi's on tds or something and compare the hits to a player, simple.

Go use Korasi's on tds or something and compare the hits to a player, simple.

 

td's are in multi and their mechanics are different.

Go use Korasi's on tds or something and compare the hits to a player, simple.

 

I don't get it.

anyway OT, what jagex really needs to do is release a constitution pot.

 

i know one hit isn't enough to prove anything, but at 0 attack and maxed mage defense i think it really says something.

That's already been proven, we were contemplating about if magic def reduces the damage taken (unless that was directed towards someone else)

That's already been proven, we were contemplating about if magic def reduces the damage taken (unless that was directed towards someone else)

 

I can understand prayer reducing damage, but how can you really test a 100% accuracy spec in a luck based system against magic def armor?

 

guess I misunderstood your language. in any case, i'm like 99% percent sure mage pray reduces damage, 90% sure high (read: ~150+) mage defense reduces max hit

Yea...I guess I can see how that was confusing :P

 

Anyways...about your con pot...how would it work? Would it be like attack pots in that it raises your Constitution level, allowing you eat and heal PAST 990 after drinking?

One idea I had was making a pot that after you drink it, would reduce damage for a certain amount of time, like reducing damage by 10% for 5 minutes

What about a potion that increases how much food heals after you eat it? similar to how the skinweavers in dungenoeering increase how much food heals when you have one summoned.

Yea...I guess I can see how that was confusing :P

 

Anyways...about your con pot...how would it work? Would it be like attack pots in that it raises your Constitution level, allowing you eat and heal PAST 990 after drinking?

One idea I had was making a pot that after you drink it, would reduce damage for a certain amount of time, like reducing damage by 10% for 5 minutes

What about a potion that increases how much food heals after you eat it? similar to how the skinweavers in dungenoeering increase how much food heals when you have one summoned.

 

increase base hitpoints level. this would cause brews, uni specs to heal more

 

damage reduction could work too, since const pot would probably be overpowered in pvm

I think your natural life points restoration would converge to 10x current level of constitution as well with a constitution potion.

I think your natural life points restoration would converge to 10x current level of constitution as well with a constitution potion.

 

pretty sure hp restore is 10lp/min regardless of lvl

I'm not talking about the rate of restore, but the life point it will converge to. For example, if I boosted my constitution level to 95, then my life points would restore to 950 rather than 860. Same with a decrease to constitution; your life points would slowly drain away at the 10lp/min rate you mentioned to 10x of your 'new' level.

 

Admittedly, this is minor compared to restoration through food, etc anyway

I can understand prayer reducing damage, but how can you really test a 100% accuracy spec in a luck based system against magic def armor?

And you say you've survived 5 130s? In Multi-combat? Did you know the power of the spec is REDUCED in multi?

 

Just don't tell people they're wrong when you can't really show them otherwise, and when you don't even 100% know yourself.

 

no, it was in single person 1v1. i've survived more; after tanking the spec the key is to use summ pots, blood barrage, etc.

 

and lol... like i said, no rigorous statistics are needed. if you don't want to trust my personal experience, then test it yourself, because i'm like 99% certain. there's also NO way to literally "Prove" it other than to find out the damage formula itself; nothing from our side can be proved with 100% certainty. but that's really just semantics.

 

So instead of trying to prove it or at least strengthen your argument in a 1v1 with lcool, you still spout more BS instead?

 

Its quite simple really, find out lcools max hit, then you can use your d'hide/max mage def and see if it reduces damage at all. If the average hit is significantly below 100% of the max hit (which is average damage for korasis spec), then evidence will suggest that your right. If the average hit hovers around the 100% mark, then your wrong.

So instead of trying to prove it or at least strengthen your argument in a 1v1 with lcool, you still spout more BS instead?

 

Its quite simple really, find out lcools max hit, then you can use your d'hide/max mage def and see if it reduces damage at all. If the average hit is significantly below 100% of the max hit (which is average damage for korasis spec), then evidence will suggest that your right. If the average hit hovers around the 100% mark, then your wrong.

 

test it yourself; the testing would take a long time and i don't see a need to test it in addition to my personal experience since i'm already pretty certain. there is no point to arguing this - if you are so eager to prove me wrong, go and test it yourself

Go use Korasi's on tds or something and compare the hits to a player, simple.

 

td's are in multi and their mechanics are different.

 

So you don't even have to be in combat with more than 1 monster for it to be different?

Go use Korasi's on tds or something and compare the hits to a player, simple.

 

td's are in multi and their mechanics are different.

 

So you don't even have to be in combat with more than 1 monster for it to be different?

 

afaik as long as its multi its different, but not sure about that

 

but anyway td shields have some weird mechanism