November 30, 201015 yr Ok.... Dumb question, but once upon a time we all used to use Karils crossbow for fightcaves. With the crossbow update, Karils seems to have become obsolete. I recently heard that using Karils crossbow will considerably speed up the fightcaves... So the question is: should I use Karils crossbow or stick with rune? My ranged is 74 for those of you wondering.
November 30, 201015 yr I'd stick with rune, as it allows you to switch to diamond (e)s during the fight with Jad, and I'm sure that those would help you a lot more than Karil's would.
November 30, 201015 yr Author I can easily get to Jad, it's just the fact that it takes so long to get to him. I could even take a crystal bow or something for jad if I needed to.
December 1, 201015 yr I can easily get to Jad, it's just the fact that it takes so long to get to him. I could even take a crystal bow or something for jad if I needed to. Cry bow is even more outdated then Karil's xbow. If you're really hurting for huge damage on Jad, take a handcannon. Other then that, rune xbow + diamond (e) is the best. And if you're worried about how long it takes, look up some guides on how to melee the caves. It gets extremely faster that way. Hexiled Razz. Player since March 8th, 2005.
December 2, 201015 yr karils is about 20% faster damage output than rune with broad bolts.Crystal bow's barely better than rune + broad bolts at full charge I believe. Handcannon also has some highly rated damage output as well.About 6% better than karils it's just a matter of expense.You'll blow more than 1 handcannon an hour, ontop of up to 1200 ammo per hour. (about 800k gp/hour)karils can fire up to 2000 bolt racks per hour, costing you about (about 400k gp/hour atm) and once again, karils is about 20% better dps than rune cbow + broad boltsand handcannon is about 6% better dps than karils. karils is by no means outdated. For the current price, it's the best weapon for anybody that makes over 2 mil gp hourhandcannon is worthwhile if you make over 6.7 mil gp/hour, inventory space is not an issue, and you have high firemaking level (95+ i'd say)
December 2, 201015 yr rune c'bow has always been bad at fight caves because of its short range, making luring harder and therefore making you take significantly more damage (despite the fact that you get to use a shield). karil's xbow is probably the best weapon for fight caves still, but it's not the most cost-efficient. crystal bow is the best all-around weapon for the caves since it's still very powerful and has awesome reach
December 2, 201015 yr rune c'bow has always been bad at fight caves because of its short range, making luring harder and therefore making you take significantly more damage (despite the fact that you get to use a shield). karil's xbow is probably the best weapon for fight caves still, but it's not the most cost-efficient. crystal bow is the best all-around weapon for the caves since it's still very powerful and has awesome reach +1 to that, because it's Muggiwhiplar talking about fight caves. Speaking of which, if your guide is still around Muggi, why isn't it in your siggy o.O Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue.
December 2, 201015 yr how do you need the ability to shoot that far in the fight caves..? anyway for skilled fire cape-ers, ranged is obsolete. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit
December 2, 201015 yr how do you need the ability to shoot that far in the fight caves..? anyway for skilled fire cape-ers, ranged is obsolete. For example, if you're safespotting a 180 with a 360 behind it, rune c'bow won't reach far enough for you to be able to attack the 180 w/o being hit by the 360, whereas other weapons will
December 2, 201015 yr why would you attack the 180 while the 360 is still alive? kill the 360 first so you can turn off mage prayer, then shoot/run or trap the 180 on the walls. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit
December 2, 201015 yr Karil's x bow is what I usually use for caves. CBA to melee due to risk of fail and having to pay full attention, range doesn't take much longer for being really easy. Wouldn't risk using handcannon for caves, I'm also skeptical that it would be higher DPS considering all of the low hp/low defence monsters there are.
December 2, 201015 yr why would you attack the 180 while the 360 is still alive? kill the 360 first so you can turn off mage prayer, then shoot/run or trap the 180 on the walls. It was just a simplified example off the top of my head.
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December 2, 201015 yr I use crystal bow till Jad, when I make use of the 2 hand cannons I have with me. Achieved quest (07/08/2009), woodcutting (28/06/2010), attack (21/07/2010), strength + constitution (07/08/2010), defence (26/09/2010), summoning (13/01/2011), herblore (03/03/2011), cook (31/08/2012), firemaking (01/09/2012), magic (08/09/2012), prayer (16/09/2012) and ranged (29/10/2012) capes.
December 2, 201015 yr rune c'bow has always been bad at fight caves because of its short range, making luring harder and therefore making you take significantly more damage (despite the fact that you get to use a shield). karil's xbow is probably the best weapon for fight caves still, but it's not the most cost-efficient. crystal bow is the best all-around weapon for the caves since it's still very powerful and has awesome reach Doesn't Karil have an even shorter range then rune?Anyways, I've just always used rune crossbow, it just makes it easier to be. (although now I melee...so yea :unsure: ) Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^
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