Actual truth? Bold claim you may say. Not really, just a subtle recognition, that is true regardless of whether you think so or not.

 

Over the years people have looked for something greater, they still do in fact. Who knows why, there are so many reasons. A yearning for answers, a yearning for truth. Or maybe to fulfill an obligation to family/society. Or, in my own experience, perhaps to appear wise or gain acceptance from the wise. The mere concept of "truth" has been wrapped up in so much [cabbage]. Really, in absolute drivel. So that now people think it unattainable, and give up, or ridicule, or "intellectually understand" but don't know experientially, or think they need to meditate for 40 years. They never consider that there is just SIMPLE TRUTH that is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE RIGHT NOW.

 

Let me tell you something. You were born, a baby into the world. Part of the world, from the world. FROM the world, the world was never given to you. Somewhere along the way the brain/mind, interacting with its environment - established CAUSE and EFFECT. You need to think about what this actually means - it is why we humans are capable of devising complex systems, and establishing characteristics of objects and the relationships between things. So when you use logic, to work something out, you may ask why does that make sense? Why does it feel "right" - and you'll find, well it just does. This is because, that is what the mind does. That is how it evolved.

 

And "you" are no different. The mind, in a need for a label, labelled itself. And every label after that is founded with this initial assumption. Right now, in your day to day life, this is true. The label of "you", whilst it feels like it is "you" and like it has always been "you", is not real. It is real, only in the sense that a label was made. But it is only a label, just a thought. It refers to NOTHING. There is no controller of thought, you're not CAUSING the thought, just the thought existing IN reality. Consider right now, what is causing your life? As thoughts arise, what is happening? Where are "you" in this process?

 

No doubt, pretty much none of you are likely to HONESTLY engage with this right now. You're too caught up in the lie itself, to realise that you may possibly be wrong, and that reality may actually be really, real.

 

I'll try and give you some perspective on this.

 

You will answer in one of three ways.

 

1. Evasion. You'll avoid what is said here, never even stop your constant self indulgent fantasy for a SECOND to consider that this may be true, or that such a thing as TRUTH is actually real.

 

2. To beat me. You'll try to argue this away, playing around with concepts and images in your head until it slots together, "feels right" or makes sense, then forget about it.

 

3. Merging. You'll agree, acknowledge, or even BELIEVE what I've said here to be true. It makes sense to you, "feels right".

 

Evasion, competition, mating. Sound familiar? Basic evolution. Ideas are no different to organisms, they are still subject to the same laws of nature. Your idea wants to feed, reproduce, ultimately survive. And it has been doing so ever since you first had the thought. So you'll fight me, run away, or agree (by creating another idea to represent this stuff). This is ALL BECAUSE of way way back, as a little kid, your brain labelled a "me". And ever since then, this is all it has been doing, fighting, evading, or merging with other ideas. Everything you've ever done, has been resting on this ONE false assumption. Think about it. This random feeling you call "you". What actually is it? We are literally living in the evolution of ideas. Ideas now control the world. Wars are fought between ideas, arguments, debates, EVERYTHING. We are hosts for these things, these strange forms of life. You were born, blank. And right now, you feel like "you". This feeling, you feel you've always been. Sorry, but it aint real. That feeling, is only real, in the sense that it is a FEELING IN REALITY.

 

Do you exist?

Is it true?

 

If so, why?

I'm pretty certain I live in the Martix thank you very much.

I'm pretty certain I live in the Martix thank you very much.

 

Do you feel better now?

 

Seriously. Do you exist?

3/5 because I like your avatar. I'm sure it was a good read, as all of the capitalized words (the ones I read) were quite good. Advice for improvements: Bolding, colors, italics. You could even try fiddling with the fonts.

 

Also, this belongs in the Philosophy thread.

 

Also, your arrogant and pretentious posting style fits right in with the rest of OT.

 

I agree with your ideas and have decided on the third option: to mate with you.

3/5 because I like your avatar. I'm sure it was a good read, as all of the capitalized words (the ones I read) were quite good. Advice for improvements: Bolding, colors, italics. You could even try fiddling with the fonts.

 

Also, this belongs in the Philosophy thread.

 

Also, your arrogant and pretentious posting style fits right in with the rest of OT.

 

I agree with your ideas and have decided on the third option: to mate with you.

 

No, you've decided to beat me. By drawing a picture of me in your mind, giving me a bunch of characteristics, and defining your own position in regards to that. Pathetic.

 

Did you even stop, for a second, to see if what I'm saying is ACTUALLY true?

 

No, you don't care. You care about how you appear on this website.

 

This is a truth beyond any of the words I could possibly write in a post. I'm trying to get you to look, simply CONSIDER, for a second, if this is true.

 

If you cared at all about reality, would you not do this first, then decide when you've really dug down into the heart of it? Or would you judge, instantly, without even acknowleding any of the content?

 

Like you're doing RIGHT NOW.

Don't care.

 

And if you knew anything about reality, you would be just like me. Not caring.

 

You would also know that your ideas are not original or unusual (as far as they have been expressed) in any way.

what is reality?

what is reality?

What ever you want it to be. This guy is like those religious nuts that bang your door at 7 am in the morning to tell you an imaginary guy is in the sky and you should worship him.

First you tell us not to over-analyze things.

 

Then you proceed to over-analyze things.

 

I exist. Period. If I didn't I wouldn't even be able to ask myself that.

Don't care.

 

And if you knew anything about reality, you would be just like me. Not caring.

 

You would also know that your ideas are not original or unusual (as far as they have been expressed) in any way.

 

Oh but you do care.

 

You're trying to beat me now. Look how you label what i'm saying as "not original" and "unusual" - as if that makes any difference. Look at how you see yourself as above this, "not caring", actually you're just happy in your little comfy fantasy world, that you don't even realise is FAKE because you've never bothered to look. Admit it, have you?

 

So what you're really saying, is you've heard these ideas a thousand times before, and just slotted them into your little armory of ideas to use in little knowledge battles to gain smart-points, without ever actually considering if they're refer to something true and REAL.

 

What does it say of you, as a man, that you've heard these ideas BEFORE, they've even been expressed in the same way, yet you've never actually considered if they are true? Just used them for whatever game you happened to be playing at the time.

 

Go on, fight back, prove it to me and prove it to yourself. Or run away, and everyone will know you were too scared to actually look at the truth of this, in the REAL WORLD. Or say you don't care, and do both.

 

Answer this. Do you exist? If so, why?

First you tell us not to over-analyze things.

 

Then you proceed to over-analyze things.

 

I exist. Period. If I didn't I wouldn't even be able to ask myself that.

 

Simple truth doesn't mean simple inquiry.

 

No. There is only asking. Not "you" asking "yourself" that. There is asking.

I long ago discovered and accepted the essence of what you are trying to communicate. Your own question, the one about existence, belongs in the philosophy thread. Face it: this thread is intended for a discussion of the faults in your percieved personality and posting style.

 

So, like I said, try some colors. Use bold. Be more creative.

Is this a social experiment on cause an effect? Post something that sounds intelligent and see if you can label each response into a specific category?

what is reality?

What ever you want it to be. This guy is like those religious nuts that bang your door at 7 am in the morning to tell you an imaginary guy is in the sky and you should worship him.

 

Am I though? Am I really?

 

Do you really mean that? Or are you trying to BEAT ME, and make yourself feel better.

 

I'm telling you literally the exact opposite of what you just said. I'm telling you to look at truth for yourself. In fact, that is NECESSARY to get anywhere beyond belief with this sort of thing. Let me get this straight, i'm not beyond ego. This isn't some magical truth that makes everything disappear and be all calm and zen.. This is just the simple recognition that what you consider to be "you" exists WITHIN reality and not outside it affecting it. Ego is still there, as is everything else, you just realise that it doesn't REFER TO ANYTHING. It's just an assumption, in real life, right now.

 

But this isn't about me, it's about TRUTH. And that's what I've been inviting you to ask, FOR YOURSELF, this whole time. I'm not asking you to believe anything. I want the OPPOSITE. I want you to LOOK. Do you not see how you're twisting me, in your mind, into this character that you're arguing, playing along against? Do you not see that?!

First you tell us not to over-analyze things.

 

Then you proceed to over-analyze things.

 

I exist. Period. If I didn't I wouldn't even be able to ask myself that.

 

Simple truth doesn't mean simple inquiry.

 

No. There is only asking. Not "you" asking "yourself" that. There is asking.

 

What are you trying to say? That subjects don't exist? That ideas and actions are independent of individuals? That we are all unimportant?

 

Explain yourself further, and don't redirect me to the original post.

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

 

Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality!

I long ago discovered and accepted the essence of what you are trying to communicate. Your own question, the one about existence, belongs in the philosophy thread. Face it: this thread is intended for a discussion of the faults in your percieved personality and posting style.

 

So, like I said, try some colors. Use bold. Be more creative.

 

No, you don't. Its blatantly obvious that you don't, otherwise you'd have something to say.

 

You're trying to appeal to me now. Saying you long ago discovered the "essence" of what i'm trying to communicate. You revealed more about yourself here, the fact that you're putting me and you together on this level in your mind shows you think in intrinsic value of people, you change your position towards people in regards to how you perceive their value in regards to YOU. So you see yourself as better than most people, by nature. The fact that you retreated slightly, also means that on some level, you are at least partially aware of how much [cabbage] you're talking. So stop being a coward, be HONEST, for once in your life.

 

Honestly, do you exist?

Do I exist? Yes

Why do I exist? Because my parents had sex over 20.25 years ago.

 

 

I have a feeling I am missing the point you are trying to make.

First you tell us not to over-analyze things.

 

Then you proceed to over-analyze things.

 

I exist. Period. If I didn't I wouldn't even be able to ask myself that.

 

Simple truth doesn't mean simple inquiry.

 

No. There is only asking. Not "you" asking "yourself" that. There is asking.

 

What are you trying to say? That subjects don't exist? That ideas and actions are independent of individuals? That we are all unimportant?

 

Explain yourself further, and don't redirect me to the original post.

 

You're missing the point.

 

 

I'm not trying to say anything, other than to make you look.

 

You're just wanting to turn this into an idea you can think about and compare other ideas to, so you can take a shiny one home and hang it in your study to look at when you're lonely.. You don't even think to question what you're doing, regardless of me talking about how ideas work in the first post.

 

It's still ideas to you. Look at what's happening in your mind. You want to logic it, but why? Even in response to this, right now, you're trying to create more ideas about it. Why?

This has no debate value for a simple reason, you are an arrogant person who's opinions must always be right.

I long ago discovered and accepted the essence of what you are trying to communicate. Your own question, the one about existence, belongs in the philosophy thread. Face it: this thread is intended for a discussion of the faults in your percieved personality and posting style.

 

So, like I said, try some colors. Use bold. Be more creative.

 

No, you don't. Its blatantly obvious that you don't, otherwise you'd have something to say.

 

You're trying to appeal to me now. Saying you long ago discovered the "essence" of what i'm trying to communicate. You revealed more about yourself here, the fact that you're putting me and you together on this level in your mind shows you think in intrinsic value of people, you change your position towards people in regards to how you perceive their value in regards to YOU. So you see yourself as better than most people, by nature. The fact that you retreated slightly, also means that on some level, you are at least partially aware of how much [cabbage] you're talking. So stop being a coward, be HONEST, for once in your life.

 

Honestly, do you exist?

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see -

 

Read it again, I think you must have missed the post. I did not retreat, nor did I ever talk [cabbage]. I have maintained the same opinions throughout the thread - the chief one being that you are POOR AND IRISH and your posting style NEEDS MORE COLORS.

Do I exist? Yes

Why do I exist? Because my parents had sex over 20.25 years ago.

 

 

I have a feeling I am missing the point you are trying to make.

 

A body exists. A brain exists.

 

But you weren't born with this feeling of "you" you have now.

 

What is that? Where did that come from?

First you tell us not to over-analyze things.

 

Then you proceed to over-analyze things.

 

I exist. Period. If I didn't I wouldn't even be able to ask myself that.

 

Simple truth doesn't mean simple inquiry.

 

No. There is only asking. Not "you" asking "yourself" that. There is asking.

 

What are you trying to say? That subjects don't exist? That ideas and actions are independent of individuals? That we are all unimportant?

 

Explain yourself further, and don't redirect me to the original post.

 

You're missing the point.

 

 

I'm not trying to say anything, other than to make you look.

 

You're just wanting to turn this into an idea you can think about and compare other ideas to, so you can take a shiny one home and hang it in your study to look at when you're lonely.. You don't even think to question what you're doing, regardless of me talking about how ideas work in the first post.

 

It's still ideas to you. Look at what's happening in your mind. You want to logic it, but why? Even in response to this, right now, you're trying to create more ideas about it. Why?

 

First of all, you assume nobody has "looked" before.

Second, you think that you and only you have the capacity to make others look.

 

You seem to think that you are "enlighted", on a different level than most of us.

 

Tell me, do you often feel violent?

This has no debate value for a simple reason, you are an arrogant person who's opinions must always be right.

 

This has no debate value for a multidude of reasons.

 

You can't debate truth.

 

You're too mired in your own illusion to see it working inside you, RIGHT NOW.

 

It isn't about me being right, or believing anything. Its about what is TRUE and REAL.

 

How many times do I have to say this, you've missed the point, yet again.

 

Look at how you're seeing your interpretation of me in your mind, look at how you're painting me with qualities, that you've just pulled out of your ass, to feel better about yourself.

 

I'm glad this isn't a debate, that would mean it to be a BATTLE OF IDEAS IN ORDER TO "WIN". What ultimate goal is there?! NONE. Just to win, to feel better about yourself. You don't care about truth, only your twisted image of what it represents.

 

You've dismissed everything here without even considering it, at all. Do you feel anything towards that?

At first "I" glanced over the first post and labeled "you" a loony. Then "I" read through the posts already made. "I" went back up and actually read what "you" wrote.

 

And now, "I" am posting here to say one thing:

 

Uhh... What?