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Thanks for pointing out my stupidity, but ...

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I posted yesterday that I didn't understand what was happening with prayer experience for the altar in my POH. Fair enough, I apparently hadn't understood the Jagex page on the bonus weekend and admittedly I hadn't read the entire 125 page thread on their site and was duly slapped about the head as punishment.

 

Unfortunately, the topic was locked before I got an answer to the problem I was asking about. Presumably I didn't make things very clear. Are you supposed to get *less* than usual?

 

The Jagex site has 'What activities will NOT earn me bonus XP?' and includes in its answer: "Items/locations that already give bonus XP (e.g. ancient effigies, strange rocks, genie lamps, tomes of experience, goldsmithing gloves, Ectofuntus, POH altars, etc".

 

I interpreted this to mean that those things just give you whatever they usually give, but the bonus weekend multiplier doesn't apply. So you get your usual bonus from the Ectofuntus or a genie lamp, but not that amount x2.2 or x1.9 or whatever your multiplier is at. That would make sense to me. But it isn't what I got from the POH altar. I got significantly less than the usual experience bonus. Usual for sacrificing a dragon bone would be 216; I got 158. What I got turned out to be the prayer bonus for ordinary burying multiplied by the bonus weekend multiplier.

 

But one of the generous geniuses who told me I'm stupid reckons it's clearly stated that only burying bones will give experience, and another says the dev blog indicates altars won't work at all, and either would mean everyone should be getting zero experience from sacrificing bones at the POH altar. But another said his POH altar is working fine. Others said the bonus weekend multiplier doesn't apply to altars, which makes sense to me as above, and is how the development blog reads to me, but doesn't explain how I'm getting 158 instead of 216. So all agreed that I'm stupid, but there were at least four different descriptions of how prayer is actually working, and none accounted for what I was asking about.

 

So, rather than jump up and down screeching "You're a dummy!!!" can someone explain to me in simple terms why I'm getting 158 exp for sacrificing dragon bones rather than 216? And why, on what is supposedly a 'bonus experience weekend' you get less experience than usual for an activity? And if the Ectofuntus is still giving its usual bonus (but not the weekend multiplier) and genie lamps are still giving their usual bonus (but not the weekend multiplier) perhaps someone can explain what reasoning explains the differences.

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Burners/Altars don't stack with the Double Experience, so technically, you would be getting less using the Double Experience then you would normally using an Altar in a POH.

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All bonus exp multipliers are replaced by the bonus weekend multiplier. So IN PLACE OF the altar bonus, you get base bone exp times whatever your bonus exp multiplier is. So in the first half hour it'd be 2.7 times the burying exp. The altar does nothing.

 

Similarly, IN PLACE OF the goldsmithing gauntlet bonus, you get base gold ore smelting exp times your current multiplier.

 

Short answer- yes, that's how it works.

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Seems like a bug to me if its true! Or rather, an unfortunate side effect of double exp weekend, if it is true.

All normal xp multipliers are overwritten by the bonus xp multiplier.

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Seems like a bug to me if its true! Or rather, an unfortunate side effect of double exp weekend, if it is true.

It's the latter, Jagex has been aware of this since the first weekend and still somehow convince themselves that it doesn't need to be fixed.

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All bonus exp multipliers are replaced by the bonus weekend multiplier. So IN PLACE OF the altar bonus, you get base bone exp times whatever your bonus exp multiplier is. So in the first half hour it'd be 2.7 times the burying exp. The altar does nothing.

 

Similarly, IN PLACE OF the goldsmithing gauntlet bonus, you get base gold ore smelting exp times your current multiplier.

 

Short answer- yes, that's how it works.

I seem to have already answered that question...

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So basically, all multipliers are the bonus weekend multiplier regardless of whatever the original bonus is? That really sucks. :thumbdown:

 

 

 

All bonus exp multipliers are replaced by the bonus weekend multiplier. So IN PLACE OF the altar bonus, you get base bone exp times whatever your bonus exp multiplier is. So in the first half hour it'd be 2.7 times the burying exp. The altar does nothing.

 

Similarly, IN PLACE OF the goldsmithing gauntlet bonus, you get base gold ore smelting exp times your current multiplier.

 

Short answer- yes, that's how it works.

I seem to have already answered that question...

 

Burners/Altars don't stack with the Double Experience, so technically, you would be getting less using the Double Experience then you would normally using an Altar in a POH.

 

I fail to see how your answer is similar to his.

Seems like a bug to me if its true! Or rather, an unfortunate side effect of double exp weekend, if it is true.

It's the latter, Jagex has been aware of this since the first weekend and still somehow convince themselves that it doesn't need to be fixed.

 

So basically, all multipliers are the bonus weekend multiplier regardless of whatever the original bonus is?

 

I was not aware of that! That is not right, whichever activity/item that gives the most exp should be the one to give an effect. Oh well, that's Jagex for you...

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All bonus exp multipliers are replaced by the bonus weekend multiplier. So IN PLACE OF the altar bonus, you get base bone exp times whatever your bonus exp multiplier is. So in the first half hour it'd be 2.7 times the burying exp. The altar does nothing.

 

Similarly, IN PLACE OF the goldsmithing gauntlet bonus, you get base gold ore smelting exp times your current multiplier.

 

Short answer- yes, that's how it works.

I seem to have already answered that question...

 

Thanks Durant; your reply helped but green9090's was so clearly expressed it wrapped things up well. So, ordinary bonus multipliers are thrown out and replaced by the bonus weekend multiplier. That explains me getting less than usual. Why Jagex thinks this is a good idea on a bonus exp weekend I can't imagine. I agree with those who think it sucks, and senselessly so.

 

So presumably if you use the Ectofuntus you'd go through all that rigmarole for only double experience (or whatever your bonus weekend multiplier is), not the four times you usually get. That's even more stupid than me. What about lamps and tomes? Overriding POH altars or Ectofuntus still leaves a base bone-burying rate, but overriding tomes or lamps leaves zilch. Do you end up with nothing for a genie lamp or tome of experience? Or the usual rate without any multiplier? Or umm what?

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Lamps/tomes aren't a multiplier, so you still get normal exp from them. It's only multipliers that are negated by the bonus weekend. Things that store exp like peng points, effigies, lamps, quest rewards, etc. just give the amount they usually would.

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Lamps/tomes aren't a multiplier, so you still get normal exp from them. It's only multipliers that are negated by the bonus weekend. Things that store exp like peng points, effigies, lamps, quest rewards, etc. just give the amount they usually would.

 

Thanks again.

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"The altar does nothing."

 

 

 

"You would be getting less using the Double Experience then you would normally using an Altar in a POH."

 

 

 

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