ccesssu Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 there is a str bonus from equipment, and your str level?how many str points is equal to a level? also, prayers that boost str by X%, is your max hit just multiplied by 1.15 (for super str, for example)? or is something different? I'll drop the freakin' moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better. Dragon dyce youtube channel:http://www.youtube.com/user/DragonDyceMy Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/B15ddyce?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better. No. Defense bonuses are trivial for most things. Stop posting misinformation. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccesssu Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better.what? i'm not talking about defense at all.. I'll drop the freakin' moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better. No. Defense bonuses are trivial for most things. Stop posting misinformation.well, i'm sorry. i was told strength bonus doesn't help. but for future reference, how does it help? Dragon dyce youtube channel:http://www.youtube.com/user/DragonDyceMy Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/B15ddyce?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegelstad Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better. No. Defense bonuses are trivial for most things. Stop posting misinformation.well, i'm sorry. i was told strength bonus doesn't help. but for future reference, how does it help? Well it increases max damage output and therefore you are hitting more dps. Defence doesnt help at all unless you are fighting bosses were you are constantly taking damage. My lame drops:6 Effigys1 D Med - 1 D Dagger1 Verac's Helmet - 1 Guthan's Platebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better.what? i'm not talking about defense at all..He means the post above his, not your OP. The formula that determines your max hit is as follows: 5 + (potted strength level * prayer bonus + 8) * (equipment strength + 64) / 64 * void bonus With fsh and salve amulet being part of the strength level. I'm not sure how they are factored in but I assume it's just another multiplier. The same formula applies for accuracy rolls, one attack and one defence roll. Of course the void/salve/fsh bonus don't every apply to defence. If your attack roll is higher than your opponent's defence roll, you hit. I'm not sure what happens when the rolls are equal. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better. No. Defense bonuses are trivial for most things. Stop posting misinformation.well, i'm sorry. i was told strength bonus doesn't help. but for future reference, how does it help? Well it increases max damage output and therefore you are hitting more dps. Defence doesnt help at all unless you are fighting bosses were you are constantly taking damage. Hmm, thanks. i've always been told that strength bonus is only for slayer. bbecause defence bonus saves you money on food. thanks for educating me. i guess whats why people say get torso/bandos for strength bonus. Dragon dyce youtube channel:http://www.youtube.com/user/DragonDyceMy Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/B15ddyce?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i'm not sure, but i don't think strength bonus is everthing, sure, it helps. but i think defence bonus is better. No. Defense bonuses are trivial for most things. Stop posting misinformation.well, i'm sorry. i was told strength bonus doesn't help. but for future reference, how does it help?It increases your max hit and also your average hit. In turn this increases your kills per hour or experience per hour. If you are going to ever max melee stats then even something like a berzerker ring will save you many hours. This is why so many setups emphasize strength bonus. Also, defense isn't as important as food, familiars and prayers can be used to compensate. Edit: I keep getting ninja'd PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'm pretty sure the higher your str level, the more 1 str bonus gives you, as it's more or less based on % Other then that...I have no idea at all. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I think what the OP is asking is, if you have lvl 1 str, what str bonus would you need to hit the same as having lvl 50 str with 0 str bonus.. Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 ^I'll just answer that for the heck of it. Max hit with 50 strength and no strength bonus is your strength level +13, or +16 with agressive. So that's a max of 53 or 56. Max hit with 1 strength is 5 + (1 + 8) * (strength bonus + 64) / 64 or 5 + (1 + 8 + 3) * (strength bonus + 64) on agressive. Basically, every 64 strength bonus adds 9 or 12 to your max, with your base max being 14. You need 278 strength bonus to get a max hit of 53, matching the max hit on accurate. To match the max hit on agressive you need a strength bonus of 192. It should be noted that the only way to get over 200 strength bonus at level 1 strength is with a chaotic maul, Bandos, strength amulet, berserker (i), dragon boots, fire cape etc.. I'm not sure but you probably can't get barrows gloves, so you might even need to use Vesta's. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccesssu Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 I think what the OP is asking is, if you have lvl 1 str, what str bonus would you need to hit the same as having lvl 50 str with 0 str bonus..no i was just wondering (in essence):how many equipment str bonus it takes to raise max hit by 1 (or any constant)compared to...how many strength level it takes to raise max hit by 1 (or any constant) just to compare the cost efficiencies of bandos / ext str / piety / turm and other stuff for personal usebut yeah, i should of just looked at the formula for max hit and would have realized it's not linear :rolleyes: I'll drop the freakin' moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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