Unhesitating Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 If I try to be as efficient as possible all of the time, I will get bored and quit slayer. Therefore, I ask yall these questions: 1. Magic- any good things besides ice strykes to mage?2. Dharoks- any good tasks to use this on?3. Is korasi's+ddef = zspear? or is zs still the way to go? Thanks in advance :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hav0c0wnz Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 for dragons zs is better than k sword+ddef for sure. cant answer any toehrs tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 for dragons zs is better than k sword+ddef for sure. cant answer any toehrs tho This is just blatently wrong. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 for dragons zs is better than k sword+ddef for sure. cant answer any toehrs tho This is just blatently wrong.yep, ksword+ddef is equal accuracy and 1 more strength.dh is good on fire giants in the smokey dungeon I think, as it constantly keeps your HP at min, as well as WFs (I'm not sure if it beats cm, I found it comparable to void+ss)mage is good on abby demons, metal dragons, and blue dragons, but its less DPS then melee on anything but ice strykes. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Assuming RS wiki is correct, because that's the first thing that popped up on google, korasi + d def has same accuracy and higher str then Z Spear. Z spear alone has higher att/str, but I can't think of any good reason why you'd compare Korasis without D Def to Z Spear with. Unless you need a shield for something, in which case Korasi's trumps because ZS is a 2h weapon. So. (Btw I'm comparing stab accuracy just so you know.) As for magic, steels/irons are decent to mage, but it's usually cheaper to melee most tasks. Unless you feel like Ice Barraging in Kuradels dungeon just to see how high you can make mage go >_> (which I've done.) I can't see Dharoks being good for any tasks, especially since dharoks doesn't work with a full slayer helm. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Zspear is also useful as a crush weapon if you ever need that.So yes, zspear is > korasi + ddef for stabbing but it has no crush option. And for magic - pretty much anywhere (other then iceworms - you'll see a decrease in dps)You could however, do the ice strykeworms and lower leveled tasks since they're pretty fast regardless of what you do them off. Don't do metal dragons with magic, much too slow and it's annoying as hell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhesitating Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 Hmm, thanks for all the answers. I was curious about using dh because I didn't know if the higher hits > Slayer helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzzy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I have seen many people Dharoking many tasks that only require prayer like fire giants, I have also seen some Dharok Iron/Steels tasks.Maging doesnt really work well with slayer only good thing that I know of is using fire spells on irons/steels.Assuming that you know using stab is the best way to kill all dragons, Korasis + DDef is better. And, if you can stand getting 80 DG the Chaotic Rapier is the BEST weapon for many slayer tasks. Hope i helped. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpikeStr1ke Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 My fav dh able tasks are Fire Giants, Garg's, Black Demons (along side the cannon), and Hellhounds. I know the Barrows guide at the bottoms gives some dhable tasks but one i DO NOT suggest dhing is Nech's because at low hp the spawns will tear u a new one. Tasks i often mage are Iron/Steel, Blues, and Abby Demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You can barrage nechs, and you can mage any and all demons. I think Dharok's is pretty close to Bandos + fsh + rapier except that it has the huge overkill loss which means you really want a cannon or familar to finish stuff off for you (e.g. multicombat tasks with high hp preferred). I imagine you can get some neat 1000+ hits on mutated bloodvelds perhaps. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer66 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 . Magic- any good things besides ice strykes to mage? Depends on your equipment / Mage level. Fire Surge owns most tasks in Kura's - Gargs / Abbys / Irons / Steels. Best set up I ve found is: Full Slayer Helm - 15% Mage BonusArcane Neck - 15% Mage BonusSOL - but Chaotic would be better - another 15 or 20% Ahrims top - bottomInfinity bootsZammy / Mage bookFero - +40 to Damage.God Cape Wolpenger plus scrolls Yak is preferable to bank on Metals / Abby's IMO. I can't rememeber the exact max hit but its in the region of 500 - 510, and isnt any slower then melee imo. Gix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 ^ I've hit up to 569 with fire surge, max mage setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 ^And that's still around 25% slower than melee. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I mage-slayed from 86-97 magic. It definitely "livens" things up, but it's slow as hell except for nechs and ice wyrms. Anyway, dharoking fire giants in the Smokey Well is tons o' fun. So is 2.5briding DKs for dag tasks. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 ^And that's still around 25% slower than melee. On metal dragons, is that relly 25% slower than korasi/zs? Just wondering because the numbers just don't really add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastyforinvi Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 If I try to be as efficient as possible all of the time, I will get bored and quit slayer. Therefore, I ask yall these questions: 1. Magic- any good things besides ice strykes to mage?2. Dharoks- any good tasks to use this on?3. Is korasi's+ddef = zspear? or is zs still the way to go? Thanks in advance :D 1. Magic- any good things besides ice strykes to mage?Not really unless you want to spend more time on metal dragons then you already are 2. Dharoks- any good tasks to use this on?Not really since slayer helm>dharoks 3. Is korasi's+ddef = zspear? or is zs still the way to go?Korasi+d def is best for dragons until chaotic rapier at which point chaotic rapier is best for everything except maging icewyrms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyJenny Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Not being a fan at all of those popular non-combat magic training methods... (there is superheat that's ok, maybe livid farm if interested in the spells...) Mage slaying, while slower than pure melee is still quite decent. Irons, Steels, Blues and Abbyssals in Kura dung are all very good. Should break even to profit if banking bones/ashes. Gargoyles can be maged too if unlocked auto-kill ability, stand in middle of the room, once they unagro just blast away in every direction. Avantage of this compared to melee : you dont need the room all for yourself to be efficient. Applies to abbyssals too (both get really crowded at times and hopping world is inefficient too lol).Can Burst/Barage nechs too, its definately fun. Definately aim to get a rapier for your stab weapon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 ^And that's still around 25% slower than melee. On metal dragons, is that relly 25% slower than korasi/zs? Just wondering because the numbers just don't really add up.Not 25% slower than zs, probably. I'm not sure on your accuracy with magic. But in general, that fire surge max hit assumes max mage gear, and it's only fair to compare that to max melee gear, which will hit 650ish max, and 25% faster. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 That's fair. But OP doesn't have the dungeoneering level for a rapier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhesitating Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Working on it D: I just dont have a good team to dung with so solo takes a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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