The ARMY.... what do u think about it?

[d-von]

 

the army is for real boys... i allways dreamed of flying in a military airplane... i can play batlefield vietnam, gta san andreas, and all other games wich includes flying for hours without end.

Because playing war games really shows you what the real thing is like :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when i see those games and thoses movies and documentaries about military planes.... im getting pretty jealous i am not able to do that :wink:

[assassin_696]

 

I have no qualms with the army, but at the moment in the world I can't see anything really worth fighting for. Iraq and Afghanistan are ridiculous, if it really was a war against terrorism why bomb innocents? Special forces could take out rebel terrorist cells without all the "shock and awe".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having an army is not only because you want to fight. It's also there to cause "fear". No country will attack against you if your army forces are so strong that they'd have to pay a huge price for conquering your country. Look at USA and the Soviet Union during the cold war: Both hated each other and had their nuclear weapons pointed to each other's major cities, but no one dared to press the button. It would have cost you too much as the other side would have pressed the button too. Fear is also a major factor why muslim countries at the near-east haven't attacked against Israel for decades.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see Iraq or Afganistan as a real fight against terrorism or for human rights. It was just purely money making. Sure, both cost a lot, but yankee weapon manufactors made billions, same with those who came to rebuild those poor countries. Not to mention oil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yeah i realise armies are necessary, and I couldn't imagine a world for a second. I certainly don't think they should all be abolished or anything of the sort. I was simply saying that at the moment it's not like we have wars really worth fighting. I'm not saying there won't be, it's just I think Iraq is a pathetic excuse to go to war. Hell I've even thought of joining the army at times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the army is for real boys... i allways dreamed of flying in a military airplane... i can play batlefield vietnam, gta san andreas, and all other games wich includes flying for hours without end.

Because playing war games really shows you what the real thing is like :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when i see those games and thoses movies and documentaries about military planes.... im getting pretty jealous i am not able to do that :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's nowhere near as glamarous as the movies make it seem. We'd all like to fly planes like in Top Gun but if you think it's going to be like that you are SERIOUSLY mistaken. It's real pal.

[yummy_kids]

Two of my cousins are in the army my uncle was a marine and my grandpa was a pilot. I am going to join the army and aim for the army rangers. I find no problem fighting for my country because my country elected the leader and the leader chooses if we should fight. Just my opinion but if you don't support a war you hate america.

[rocketman089]

Just my opinion but if you don't support a war you hate america.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd really, really like you to explain that one to me.

[runesmithie]

Two of my cousins are in the army my uncle was a marine and my grandpa was a pilot. I am going to join the army and aim for the army rangers. I find no problem fighting for my country because my country elected the leader and the leader chooses if we should fight. Just my opinion but if you don't support a war you hate america.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suggest getting a better opinion

[weezcake]

Two of my cousins are in the army my uncle was a marine and my grandpa was a pilot. I am going to join the army and aim for the army rangers. I find no problem fighting for my country because my country elected the leader and the leader chooses if we should fight. Just my opinion but if you don't support a war you hate america.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. The country didn't elect the leader. 51% did.

 

 

 

2. I'd like you to explain the quote (quoted by rocketman089) also please.

[yummy_kids]

i love it when idiot liberals think they should get a say in everything, they didn't win anything so i really see no need for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you don't support a war the us military is fighting you hate america because you clearly think the soldiers are doing a bad thing and since the soldiers support america so does the leader who started the war, and since you hate all of them and the leader was elected by america(yes no matter what your liberal pansy [wagon] says no one cheated for office) you hate america

[rocketman089]

i love it when idiot liberals think they should get a say in everything, they didn't win anything so i really see no need for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you don't support a war the us military is fighting you hate america because you clearly think the soldiers are doing a bad thing and since the soldiers support america so does the leader who started the war, and since you hate all of them and the leader was elected by america(yes no matter what your liberal pansy wagon says no one cheated for office) you hate america

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1: I'm not a liberal, nor a pansy. If anything I'm a moderate conservative.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2: I don't hate our military, I have a few friends in the military and I myself intend to join the Corps of Engineers after 4 years at the UofA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3: Calling people liberal pansy wagons just makes you look like you have no idea what you're talking about. Stop the patriotic bull and respect other people's opinions, because in the end, you look like the idiot, not the liberal pansy wagons.

[yummy_kids]

whoever called you a liberal pansy?? i mean the people that think all military should be stopped and bush paid off everyone to win elections, also they think 9\11 was fake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and i stated my oppinion you should respect. we all 'respect' others opinions( :roll: ) but we all hate them and have our own. when does a liberal say well your right i respect your opinion and i change my mind or a ultra right wind say the same thing??

[rocketman089]

and i stated my oppinion you should respect. we all 'respect' others opinions( :roll: ) but we all hate them and have our own. when does a liberal say well your right i respect your opinion and i change my mind or a ultra right wind say the same thing??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, respect is a two way street, cheif. It's hard to even consider your opinion saney valid with all the trash talk of people that just happen to not like the idea of people killing others for political agendas. I understand that's just the way you feel, but talking smack about people who don't agree with you is uncalled for.

[yummy_kids]

i like trash talk makes life more fun. ive also been called a murding homophobe who is going to hell. so i see nothing wrong with calling someone a liberal pansy. because thats what they are.. a liberal and someone who is scared to fight for anything

[Guest]

The good thing if you are in the army and get sent over to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan is that you make stacks of money. So that's a good thing to consider if you join the Army.

[weezcake]

i love it when idiot liberals think they should get a say in everything, they didn't win anything so i really see no need for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you don't support a war the us military is fighting you hate america because you clearly think the soldiers are doing a bad thing and since the soldiers support america so does the leader who started the war, and since you hate all of them and the leader was elected by america(yes no matter what your liberal pansy wagon says no one cheated for office) you hate america

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I can't question authority if it's a war? That's not very American of you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the Iraq war is unjust; I can't say "whoa, maybe the government is WRONG?" And if I do, I'd be a pansy? What's the logic in that? Questioning and resistance was a major concern to the founding fathers. Maybe YOU hate America for not liking opposition, because quite frankly, that's how balance is kept in the US and how the founding fathers wanted the country to be run.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about the Vietnam war? Were the protesters being unAmerican then? We faced heavy casualties, but no one had any idea why we were fighting the war (as stated in the Pentagon papers, even the generals had no idea).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lastly, what does being liberal have to do with fighting? Soldiers sacrificed their lives during the past wars, regardless of their political affiliations. Also, liberal, leftist revolutions (communist, socialist) would never succeed if the assumption that "a liberal and someone who is scared to fight for anything" is true. There have been many liberal revolutions that have succeeded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next time, back up your arguments instead of blindly yelling insults at the other side.

[yummy_kids]

Do you know anything?!? Our founding father didn't stand up to the British because of some war they did it because they were not a part of their government yet they were still getting taxes, they were being restricted to that spot not being able to expand. They didn't question their wars or anything. You are in a country that you are part of its government so you pay taxes. Its not about questioning authority because I really don't see how you have it so bad it is a volunteer army not a draft like the one during the Vietnam war. In my opinion if you hate the war, that the people who signed up to fight for the war, that the president who was elected by America, you hate America.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Vietnam War I have no idea about other then the small things I have seen on History channel. I learn about that war in 3 months at school, sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh ya...

 

 

 

Lastly, what does being liberal have to do with fighting? Soldiers sacrificed their lives during the past wars, regardless of their political affiliations. Also, liberal, leftist revolutions (communist, socialist) would never succeed if the assumption that "a liberal and someone who is scared to fight for anything" is true. There have been many liberal revolutions that have succeeded

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Learn to read! I never say all liberals are scared to fight jeez! I am talking about liberals who ALSO HAPPEN TO BE SCARED TO FIGHT! Read it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So weez and everyone else please stop putting words in my mouth. I never call anyone who hates the Iraq or Afghanistan War a pansy. I say they hate America. JESUS

[Quer_Skulll]

i love it when idiot liberals think they should get a say in everything, they didn't win anything so i really see no need for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you don't support a war the us military is fighting you hate america because you clearly think the soldiers are doing a bad thing and since the soldiers support america so does the leader who started the war, and since you hate all of them and the leader was elected by america(yes no matter what your liberal pansy wagon says no one cheated for office) you hate america

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i might be as liberal as it get's but that's no reason to snap.

 

 

 

if you don't support the war, you hate america? really man that's just wrong.

 

 

 

i might dislike america (not the people there,well not moste) but that has everything to do with politics.

 

 

 

there is so much propaganda about the war from the U.S. side and so much lies that i just have to seriously question the war.

 

 

 

i've seen a few new's messages from the u.s. and well it's just plain weird example: the dutch didn't want give out one of there people to america to be executed there because young pretty blond got killed (figures that it only got in the news because of that :roll: and thats pretty blunt) and the murder was comitted on dutch soil.. so he would be punished by the dutch and they refused to send him to america to get executed.. and the american news replied with this: "well what did you expect from a country that legalises drugs and same sex marriage.." i mean dude what the!?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and all the games about the war, so much propaganda.

 

 

 

the fact that the war against Iraq was started on fake grounds.

 

 

 

now that Hussein dude was bad but well the entire attitude of the media and politics is pointing the figure at someone else which is the point of my earlier story; if they keep pointing that finger how can i trust there right in there cause?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i just can't support war.

 

 

 

i couldn't stand having a military haircut and i won't become one of them military robots either.

 

 

 

discipline? bah..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no offense meant to anyone but the media and goverment.

 

 

 

no offense meant but well

[yummy_kids]

Well it's true what do you expect from a country like that. Same sex marriages are not right, and gays are not humans. Also there are legal drugs and illegal drugs for a reason. Only sad idiots take drugs that do not help you in anyway. Please mary jane being legal? That hurts your lungs and damages your brain it offers no positive effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again I wouldn't expect anything more from someone from a stupid country like yours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sure did stray this topic off track. Ooops..

[hohto]

Well it's true what do you expect from a country like that. Same sex marriages are not right, and gays are not humans. Also there are legal drugs and illegal drugs for a reason. Only sad idiots take drugs that do not help you in anyway. Please mary jane being legal? That hurts your lungs and damages your brain it offers no positive effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you judge them by their drug laws? Cannabis is less dangerous than alcohol. By the way, that drug is legal at your country too. Also percentually more people use hard drugs in US than at Netherland.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way I hope you don't touch Mary Jane and "get your brains damaged". You obviously have some kind of a problem as you can't even write your own language well. Maybe it's just normal in your stupid country that your people can't even write your own language and you study history from an american tv channel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two of my cousins are in the army my uncle was a marine and my grandpa was a pilot. I am going to join the army and aim for the army rangers. I find no problem fighting for my country because my country elected the leader and the leader chooses if we should fight. Just my opinion but if you don't support a war you hate america.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So if a small minority doesn't like the president that a big minority elected, you hate your own country? I thought you were against your president, not hate your own country. I hate our current president (we got elections today btw), but I love my country more than anything else. I'm personally against democracy, because majority of those who vote are either just stupid or too lazy to find out about the things those nominatees support.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I hate the way how USA acts. They only care of their own wellfare and that's it. It makes me laugh how they support "human rights and democracy" when they attack at place A, but same time support place B where the things are just like in place A. If you need an example of a place B, look at Saudi Arabia or Israel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw little trivia at this place... What is the only country that has used a nuclear weapon at war?

[weezcake]

lol. I'm sure I know much more about US History than you do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never said the colonists questioned the wars Britain was waging-- they actually supported most of the wars. We did not go to war with Britain because we were taxed; we did it because we were being taxed and not represented (just one of the few reasons). The British government made an "unjust" decision, and the colonists questioned it. Questioning the decisions of the government isn't questioning authority? If not, then I don't see what is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is what I was responding to when I mentioned the leftist revolutions:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so i see nothing wrong with calling someone a liberal pansy. because thats what they are.. a liberal and someone who is scared to fight for anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you were saying?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well it's true what do you expect from a country like that. Same sex marriages are not right, and gays are not humans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same sex couples deserve the same rights as "normal" couples. I know that some people will be opposed to the idea of gay marriages, but saying that "gays are not human" goes way overboard. You're attacking a group of people that does not need to be attacked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again I wouldn't expect anything more from someone from a stupid country like yours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mindless flaming is not allowed on these forums. Besides, how can you say that after you wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and i stated my oppinion you should respect. we all 'respect' others opinions( :roll: ) but we all hate them and have our own.

[yummy_kids]

still weez it seems you don't know how to read.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so i see nothing wrong with calling someone a liberal pansy. because thats what they are.. a liberal and someone who is scared to fight for anything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

okay read that. it says 'AND' okay? a liberal pnasy is a liberal who is scared to fight. where does it say liberals are a bunch of pansy? if you are a stupid american does that mean all americans are stupid? no! learn to read.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gays are not humans and they don't deserve any right except the right to be killed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the idiot above weez.

 

 

 

Yeah thats how things work. You don't attack countries that help you with resources.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yes also, 'why doesn't America care about us! they only care about themselves they are stupid :((((' I really don't see what everyone means by that. Do all the countries in europe share thier money, thier land and armies? Oh we are all friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who ever said I support Booze or Cigs? I want both outlawed you idiot. They help no one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

America used the first Atomic weapon. I see nothing wrong with it. It saved soldiers lives.

[hohto]

Gays are not humans and they don't deserve any right except the right to be killed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mind explaining what are they then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the idiot above weez.

 

 

 

Yeah thats how things work. You don't attack countries that help you with resources.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I truely love you. Sometimes I wish that Hrutshev, Gorbatshov or Breznev had pressed the red button. Your leader is one of the biggest hypocrites ever. Same time he brings democracy and peace to one place and supports war and oligarchy at another place. You are ready to bomb civilians because your Chevrolets need more gasoline and your greedy weapon manufactors need to sell weapons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yes also, 'why doesn't America care about us! they only care about themselves they are stupid :((((' I really don't see what everyone means by that. Do all the countries in europe share thier money, thier land and armies? Oh we are all friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I couldn't give a rat's [wagon] if America didn't like us. I don't have a problem with them if they only mind about their own things. I don't like it how they need to be "the world police" and even mind of other countries' goverments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

America used the first Atomic weapon. I see nothing wrong with it. It saved soldiers lives.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Japan had almost totally surredered already. There was only grudge on peace treaty and that's it. It saved max. 200 soldiers. Main reason why they dropped the bombs was because they wanted to show to world (mainly Stalin) that they aren't afraid to use their nuclear weapons if needed. It was totally political reason to kill almost 150,000 people.

[weezcake]

Then why didn't you just use pansy instead of liberal pansy? Your wording made it seem like a generalization, You can have a person who's not willing to fight-- AND with a political ideology on the opposite side of the spectrum. Political affiliation, IMO, has nothing to do with the will to fight. And yelling at me will not help you get your point across.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, America used the first nuclear weapon. It did save American lives, but it ENDED many more Japanese lives (100,000+ people [mostly civilians] were killed; there's no definite number, since it's still being debated). Are American lives worth more than Japanese lives? And are soldiers' lives more important than civilians'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see any point in which Hohto said "why doesn't America care about Europe?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguments lack any backing-- most of your response seems to be flames, like "to the idiot above weez".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do it again and see what happens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're not going to see a response from me until I get up in the morning.

[MyPurpleCrayon]

Gays are not humans and they don't deserve any right except the right to be killed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're a horrible person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the idiot above weez.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Idiot weez??? W t F. You contradict yourself more than anyone I've ever seen.

 

 

 

He might be a lefty, but he knows what he is talking about. Compared to someone who says "a gays are not humans. all gays deserved to be killed."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

America used the first Atomic weapon. I see nothing wrong with it. It saved soldiers lives.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I do agree with this...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Geez... I though that I was a strong conservative. :roll:

[hohto]

 

To the idiot above weez.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Idiot weez???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Naw, he pointed it to me :P See that "above" ;)

[assassin_696]

Gays are not humans and they don't deserve any right except the right to be killed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're beginning to sound remarkably like one of the most hated dictators the world has ever seen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the idiot above weez.

 

 

 

Yeah thats how things work. You don't attack countries that help you with resources.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How do you explain Iraq then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who ever said I support Booze or Cigs? I want both outlawed you idiot. They help no one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that cigarettes are wrong, but I don't have really have a problem with people that smoke, it's their life, just as long as they don't smoke around me; but alchohol? Are you not old enough to drink yet or simply mad? What's wrong with sociable drinking? What's wrong with drinking with a few friends and having a good time?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for all your other points of view about how anyone who hates the war hates everyone involved let me use a famous quote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Love the soldiers, hate the war"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I bet half the people fighting in Iraq didn't sign up purely to go there, they were probably signed up before the war started. At the moment you don't really sound patriotic, just idiotic. Some of the greatest war generals America has ever had disagreed with Iraq, i know at least one that resigned over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

America used the first Atomic weapon. I see nothing wrong with it. It saved soldiers lives.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And left Japan with decades of genetic mutations and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people, not soldiers. Oh no but wait it saved a few Americans so that makes it okay. Why drop two? One was enough.

[knives669]

Same sex marriages are not right, and gays are not humans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow. How old are you and where are you from?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean, sure, you're a closed minded idiot. And you're probably just repeating the words of your friends and family, who's only reading material consists of Guns N Ammo Magazine. But, that statement was completely inhumane, and illogical. Just because someone doesn't share the same views as you doesn't give you the right to deny them basic human rights.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After all, I'm not going to say, "Idiots are not human.", because even though I'm not 100% sure, I believe that you are, in fact, human.