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Well, its less than 2 weeks to go till the rugby world cup in New Zealand (so fun time conversions for everyone =P), so I thought i'd start a thread about it for discussions, and maybe to bring it to the attention of people who might not know too much about it.

 

The 20 teams taking part ar divided into 4 groups of 5, with the top 2 teams in each group qualifying for the quarter finals, and the top 3 qualifying for the next world cup in 2015

 

The groups are as follows:

 

Pool A:

New Zealand

France

Tonga

Canada

Japan

 

Pool B:

Argentina

England

Scotland

Georgia

Romania

 

Pool C:

Australia

Ireland

Italy

USA

Russia

 

Pool D:

South Africa

Wales

Samoa

Fiji

Namibia

 

And now for my predictions:

 

Pool A

I expect New Zealand to win the group, and France to come second, though with the French in rugby you can never be too sure, I wouldn't put it wouldn't surprise me if they either convincingly win against New Zealand, or convincingly lose to Tonga (who have been performing well recently), with Japan 4th and Canada 5th

 

Pool B

I'm expecting England to win this group, and based off recent performances, I think Scotland should be able to beat Argentina for second. Georgia should manage 4th, but I would expect them to give at least one of the bigger teams in the group a big scare, if not get an upset win, while Romania should be 5th

 

Pool C

Based on recent performance Australia should quite easily win this group. Even though they haven't played well in the build up to the world cup so far, Ireland should still manage to beat Italy to second (although I hope its the other way round, and based on the last encounter between the two sides that is also entirely possible). And USA should come in front of World Cup newcommers Russia

 

Pool D

This pool is very difficult to call with 4 teams who have a good chance of making it to the quarters

South Africa on paper are the best team in this group, but have been underperforming for a while now.

Wales are a good team, they have some very good players and have performed well in the warm up matches, however they face Fiji and Samoa, Wales' two world cup bogey teams.

Samoa have performed well recently, including a stunning victory against Australia a couple of months ago and I'd say are perfectly capable of winning against the other teams in the pool on a good day.

Fiji are probably the weaker of the 4 sides (again based off recent performance), however it wouldn't surprise me to see them getting through to the next round.

Sadly for Namibia I don't see them winning a game, and I feel rather sorry for them since they managed to end up in a pool with 3 teams who have a reputation for being very physical.

I'd guess that the final order could be 1-Wales, 2-South Africa, 3-Samoa, 4-Fiji, 5-Namibia, but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

Overall I'm expecting New Zealand and Australia to make it to the final, with New Zealand coming out winners in front of a home crowd (even though they do seem to have become allergic to winning the world cup).

Meanwhile I think France will beat Wales in the 3rd place play-off.

 

Any Questions/Criticism/Other stuff to discuss?

 

EDIT: btw official site http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/

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Loved watching Aus beat NZ last night (TAKE THAT JEFF AND DOOMY), though I think the NZ front rowers weren't exactly their best..

 

South Africa's recent failures is because they haven't played a full strength team at all most of this year, they're saving them all for the world cup, which is a bit stupid IMO.

 

New Zealand v England final, Aus to beat France for third place

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Loved watching Aus beat NZ last night (TAKE THAT JEFF AND DOOMY), though I think the NZ front rowers weren't exactly their best..

 

South Africa's recent failures is because they haven't played a full strength team at all most of this year, they're saving them all for the world cup, which is a bit stupid IMO.

 

New Zealand v England final, Aus to beat France for third place

 

-.-

 

My predictions for the final are New Zealand and then either Aus, or SA. Can't really see England pulling it off. Then England and France/Aus/SA for 3rd/4th.

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Rofl. NZ send a B team over to South Africa and we lose. Then we pull out a better to take on Aus and we still lose.

I'm not a huge follower of rugby but going by our recent form and our world cup history I'm not too confident...

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Aus will take the cup. There's no stopping them at the moment. NZ has never been a World Cup team, we've seen it many a time. Even in front of their home crowd i still can't see them winning. Maybe it's pressure. South Africa should quite easily take the 3rd place.

South Africa just needs to pull their finger out come the world cup. We haven't been playing like the defending champions at all, but that's to be expected with our current coach. He's a real waste of space.

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Can't say I've ever watched rugby before, but I'll make an effort to watch the USA vs. Aussie game at the least. Can anyone explain to me how the rugby world cup differs from the football/soccer world cup (how many teams move on per group, knock out stage, basic rules, etc)?

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Can't say I've ever watched rugby before, but I'll make an effort to watch the USA vs. Aussie game at the least. Can anyone explain to me how the rugby world cup differs from the football/soccer world cup (how many teams move on per group, knock out stage, basic rules, etc)?

 

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/tournamentrules/index.html

 

i short, the two top teams move on from each group, using the point system

 

Win - 4 points

Draw - 2 points

Loss - 0 points

4 or more tries - 1 point

Loss by 7 points or less - 1 point

 

and with these teams taking part in quarterfinals thus

 

QF 1 - Winner pool C v Runner up pool D

QF 2 - Winner pool B v Runner up pool A

QF 3 - Winner pool D v Runner up pool C

QF 4 - Winner pool A v Runner up pool B

 

and then semifinals

 

SF 1 - Winner QF1 v Winner QF2

SF 2 - Winner QF3 v Winner QF4

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Where are you from by the way Joke slayer?

 

I'm gonna miss the first half of the opening game cos of work =(

Same :(

 

I was going to go to NZ to watch a game, but I'm going to Sydney for someone's wedding instead ff

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[cabbage] the city is chocka with everyone trying to watch the opening ceremony.. I was going to head down to Devenport but apparently that's already full... If you read this, how you finding it Shiny?

 

 

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Doubt Shiny will read this, from what I gathered he's too much of a weak girl to like sports :mrgreen:

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Where are you from by the way Joke slayer?

 

I'm gonna miss the first half of the opening game cos of work =(

 

well I live in England

 

University will start in a couple of weeks, so watching the latter parts of the group stages will be tricky

 

and I'll be cheering for Italy all the way =P

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Where are you from by the way Joke slayer?

 

I'm gonna miss the first half of the opening game cos of work =(

 

You missed the best half :( The second half was truly a let down, but at least we won...

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I got off early and saw most of it. Tonga played alright, but we dropped off a bit in the that second half. Plus about 1/4 of the second half comprised of scrums. Friggen George Clancy just needed to blow up a Penalty Try if the srums were that much of an issue.

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England just got their Get out of jail free card. Totally did not deserve the win. Game was appalling in general to be honest. After seeing this i doubt that England will get further than the Quarter-finals.

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I agree, that game was a tad disappointing, especially after the other 3 games that were on today, neither side played well, but Argentina probably deserved the win more

 

Tonga vs New Zealand I didn't find particularly entertaining, NZ played well for the first half and it was a totally one sided affair, second half was a bit more competitive, althought I'm not sure if thats down to NZ slowing down or Tonga playing well

 

Scotland vs Romania was an entertaining game, Scotland made a lot of errors, while the Romanian forwards were immense and caused Scotland a lot of problems, gutted for them letting those 2 tries past at the end, they deserved a better scoreline, if not a win

 

Fiji vs Namibia was closer than what I expected, both teams played an adventurous style of rugby that is good to watch, shame that Namibia in particular made so many handling errors, or the game could have been much closer, while the Namibian 10 definatly has some good kicking boots

 

France vs Japan was a lot closer than what I expected, was great to see Japan keeping France honest for a good 70 minutes, shame they allowed the French to score 3 tries in the last 10 minutes, they most definatly deserved a better scoreline

 

 

 

Looking forward to the games tomorrow (and hope Italy can somehow manage and upset)

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[cabbage] the city is chocka with everyone trying to watch the opening ceremony.. I was going to head down to Devenport but apparently that's already full... If you read this, how you finding it Shiny?

 

Got off school early and headed for the 4.15 ferry from Bayswater, but by the time it arrived, the ferry service was called off. Walked down to North Head instead, and got boozed up on the mountain and watched the fireworks, then retired to my house to watch the All Blacks thrash Tonga.

 

Doubt Shiny will read this, from what I gathered he's too much of a weak girl to like sports :mrgreen:

 

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Doubt Shiny will read this, from what I gathered he's too much of a weak girl to like sports :mrgreen:

 

:thumbdown:

Dammit

 

Aus to win tomorrow like usual :shades:

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Wales vs SA was a great game, Wales played really well much better than the boks, but I get the feeling that the ref made some terrible decision towards the end of the game

Going to be really interesting to see the rest of the games between SA, Wales, Fiji and Samoa

 

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Wales in the semis at least

 

Speaking on the other games

 

Italy really impressed me in the first half against Australia, Semenzato (scrum half) was very good and it certainly looks like we have finally found a good scrum half. Shame Italy disintegrated in the second half, was expecting their fitness to be higher and not ship quite so many points, but I'd say they are capable of beating Ireland and make it to the quarters

 

Ireland got a decent win over USA, but I'm not too sure about how well they played, I think USA did play pretty well (while their fitness lasted at least), and definatly deserved that try at the end, I reckon they might give Italy some trouble, but I suspect the only win they could get will be against Russia

 

 

And wtf is up with all these missed kicks

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well that was a great game, who said a good game has to have tries =P

shame this made it so much more difficult for Italy to get to the quarters, but based on that performance, Ireland could go far

 

South Africa played well, while Fiji was somewhat disappointing

 

Argentina also looked pretty convincing

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