Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I have been killing Goblins with Cannon at Port Saraim for level 1 clue. But according to rs wiki Goblins chance of lvl 1 clue is "very rare".The drop rate is "rare" from a man/woman. So is there a good place with loads man/woman for me to cannon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Edgeville. Although if you want clues, id recommend stealing them from HAM members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Edgeville. Although if you want clues, id recommend stealing them from HAM members.I assure you i have thought of that :) But the problems are with them:1) You need to equip Pickpocket gear (Not a major thing but still)2) Right click pickpocketing3) You get loads junk (This is a big thing)4) Ring of wealth does not affect clue when you pickpocket and 5) It's easier to let Cannon kill :P at Port saraim i have gotten a clue in less than 15 secs with cannon. But there are times where it takes up to 3min. And i want to get it within 1min always. As i said Goblins drop rate of clue is "Very rare" according to Rs wiki. Hence why i want to find a other spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 So cannon men in edgeville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 So cannon men in edgeville?to few, i get like 4/5 cannoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dax Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Men/Women aren't too abundant. Edgeville has the most in an enclosed space, you're not going to find anywhere better. Really, it's very easy to do H.A.M, and much better if you're doing them solely for clues. A H.A.M. set is cheap, you can drop the junk, and you're there for a couple of minutes while going for easy clues, so right click doesn't really lower speeds that much, if it really matters, turn to one mouse button. #KERR2016/17/18/19/20/21. #rpgformod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Men/Women aren't too abundant. Edgeville has the most in an enclosed space, you're not going to find anywhere better. Really, it's very easy to do H.A.M, and much better if you're doing them solely for clues. A H.A.M. set is cheap, you can drop the junk, and you're there for a couple of minutes while going for easy clues, so right click doesn't really lower speeds that much, if it really matters, turn to one mouse button. This basically. I did 90-99 at monkey knife fighters while watching a movie having one mouse button. It's crazy easy. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Men/Women aren't too abundant. Edgeville has the most in an enclosed space, you're not going to find anywhere better. Really, it's very easy to do H.A.M, and much better if you're doing them solely for clues. They aren't better than Goblins from what i can tell. A H.A.M. set is cheap, you can drop the junk, and you're there for a couple of minutes while going for easy clues, so right click doesn't really lower speeds that much, if it really matters, turn to one mouse button. Not a ideal way to get the clue. And Goblins are around same speed or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Men/Women aren't too abundant. Edgeville has the most in an enclosed space, you're not going to find anywhere better. Really, it's very easy to do H.A.M, and much better if you're doing them solely for clues. They aren't better than Goblins from what i can tell. A H.A.M. set is cheap, you can drop the junk, and you're there for a couple of minutes while going for easy clues, so right click doesn't really lower speeds that much, if it really matters, turn to one mouse button. Not a ideal way to get the clue. And Goblins are around same speed or better. I can guarantee you and I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that HAM is faster and 10x easier and less costly than doing cannon. You're seriously overstating the "hassle" of dropping. You will frequently get a cluescroll within the first couple of minutes there. Whoever told you that cannoning was an ideal way to get level 1 clues was misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'd of thought you don't even profit when cannoning for clues (or atleast very minimal), which kinda defeats the purpose Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I can guarantee you and I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that HAM is faster and 10x easier and less costly than doing cannon. You're seriously overstating the "hassle" of dropping. You will frequently get a cluescroll within the first couple of minutes there. Whoever told you that cannoning was an ideal way to get level 1 clues was misinformed.You will loose your dollar then because HAM is not 10x easier. Letting a cannon fire at around 7 goblins is.However, i do think HAM is pretty good way to obtain clues. But it's not what i want to do. I prefer cannoning a easy monster where the spot is filled with over 6 monsters. And as i pointed out the drop rate of clues at Goblins is "Very rare" according to Rs wiki, so i want to find a similar weak monster with better chance. If you want to bet your money that HAM is 10x easier go ahead, you will loose. And you may be even be surprised at the speed of clue drop from goblins when cannoning them and using the effect of Ring of wealth. Just let me know when you want to test these two methods against eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Feel free to provide the data then, because there's several people who already did the research on HAM people. If you're talking about ease because you don't have to click as much, then yes, cannoning for cluescrolls are better. If you're talking about ideal like most people would be - aka proftability - then no, HAM is better. To get back to your original question since you're adamantly refusing to abandon the cannon menthod, then maybe consider Alkharid warriors or rock crabs because of the # of spawns & low hp levels. Using 1 or 2 more cballs per shot in a multi area shouldn't bother you as much since profitability doesn't seem to be your main concern aside from afk-ability. There really isn't a lot of other options for you otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Feel free to provide the data then, because there's several people who already did the research on HAM people. If you're talking about ease because you don't have to click as much, then yes, cannoning for cluescrolls are better. If you're talking about ideal like most people would be - aka proftability - then no, HAM is better. To get back to your original question since you're adamantly refusing to abandon the cannon menthod, then maybe consider Alkharid warriors or rock crabs because of the # of spawns & low hp levels. Using 1 or 2 more cballs per shot in a multi area shouldn't bother you as much since profitability doesn't seem to be your main concern aside from afk-ability. There really isn't a lot of other options for you otherwise.I went to rock crabs at Brine rat cave but only to find very few. Cannoning is good when there is around 5. Andi saw only 1-2 crabs.Al Kharids ive not tested but it seems OK (2 warriors in 1 room and probably competition from others). H.A.M is good but i really hate the junk you receive. It's troublesome. If only you could pickpocket npcs and loot went on floor when full bag...But that's not the case. Now where is my dollar because you claimed Ham is 10x easier than Goblins no?I know getting clue from HAMs is pretty fast, so don't go around fooling yourself into thinking i don't know. I am not refusing to abandon cannon method, i am choosing it because that's what i prefer, and if there is someone refusing something it is you accepting my choice of how to obtain a clue. I can go cannon goblins and provide you with data, how many times do you want me to get lvl 1 clue and time how long it took? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 H.A.M is good but i really hate the junk you receive. It's troublesome. ... I am not refusing to abandon cannon method, i am choosing it because that's what i prefer, and if there is someone refusing something it is you accepting my choice of how to obtain a clue. If I refused to acknowledge your choice, I wouldn't have proposed suggestions for things you can cannon. Just saiyan. Post if you have any other questions then. So far they've been answered, both adhering to the cannon method and other alternatives that could improve your $/hr. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 If I refused to acknowledge your choice, I wouldn't have proposed suggestions. Just saiyan. Post if you have any other questions then. So far they've been answered. :)"What's fastest method to obtain a level 1 clue?" is the question you answered with your first reply. It's a question i never asked. Now since you've turned this thread into a discussion, answer my recent question: How many times do you want me to get a level 1 clue at Goblins and record it's time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 If you're adamant about slaughtering tons of innocent civilians, try the Forester's Arms pub in Seers' Village. Pretty sure there are a good number of men/women there, the only problem would be fitting a cannon into the bar. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Now since you've turned this thread into a discussion, answer my recent question: How many times do you want me to get a level 1 clue at Goblins and record it's time? Seriously? Okay. So if you want an accurate sample size? 500 probably, at least. But if you want good information on recording information/generating results, ask Hedgehog, Grimy, Tiezen, Quyenax, or other people who are strong in statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'd say do 5k kills and record the drop rate and record kph for like 5 hours. Maybe I'll do the math later, when it's not 7 am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'd say do 5k kills and record the drop rate and record kph for like 5 hours. Maybe I'll do the math later, when it's not 7 am.What do you mean by record the drop rate? EDIT:I can try get 5K kills but i was thinking:When you receive clue Ring of wealth shines message appears, so i could possibly use that to keep track.I could do 5 hours of killing Goblins with cannon and note down the time when i the ring shines. I also could try to keep track of Goblin kills with bonecrusher exp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ya, I'd use a bonecrusher to keep track of kills. You can use a row, but you could just make a note every time you get a clue drop. Just remember not to pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ya, I'd use a bonecrusher to keep track of kills. You can use a row, but you could just make a note every time you get a clue drop. Just remember not to pick it up.It's kinda hard, so i thought of using ring shining message to keep track of clue drop. But then there is many other drops they can drop that is either "rare" or "Very rare". Ice fiends dropped a water staff and ring shined. So for example if a leather body drops from goblins the ring will shine. Anyhow i guess i need to be on guard and keep eye on cannon to find out the location of rare drops such as clue., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You can just wait for your ring to shine, then confirm that it's a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 You can just wait for your ring to shine, then confirm that it's a clue.Yeah, i was thinking just that. Just more troublesome, but iguess i have to :PI say it's more troublesome because there will be over 15 red dots on map at all time. But to pick out right direction i must pay attention to cannon and i dont know ifill be able to at all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Just try your best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Now since you've turned this thread into a discussion, answer my recent question: How many times do you want me to get a level 1 clue at Goblins and record it's time? Seriously? Okay. So if you want an accurate sample size? 500 probably, at least. But if you want good information on recording information/generating results, ask Hedgehog, Grimy, Tieszen, Quyenax, or other people who are strong in statistics. Fify I just pretend to be good at stats. Hedgehog and the others you listed are really much better than me. On topic you can kill ham members for clues as well as pickpocketing them. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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