runescapenoob101 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Also, are there any "bosses" me and a friend can do which is easier/slightly harder than barrows? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I don't know if it's easier, but the king black dragon isn't too tough. It recently got a graphical update, so you might want to wait a few weeks for the crowds to die down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapenoob101 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hello there. I just recovered my old account from 4-5 years back. It has: 71 Atk70 Str70 Def60 Range51 Prayer50 Mage Is barrows easily possible for me? If so what build should I run? Thanks allot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapenoob101 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 It should be possible, but your only option would be to to mage them. Yes, I know magic is your lowest skill, but your melee stats are simply far too low to melee them with any degree of efficiency. Use slayer darts for your magic, if you dont have slayer, I suggest either Fire Bolts with Chaos Gauntlets if you are strapped for cash, Wind blast if you are not, mage all but Ahrim (mage Karil, counter-intuitively its magic def is laughable for a ranger), range Ahrim with red d-hides and Magic short. Alternatively, get your ranged to level 61 and use rune crossbow instead of MSB (equipped with broad bolts if you have 50 slayer, adamant bolts otherwise). Due your low stats, you will probably need to pray against all brothers for the first couple of tries in prayer/magic gear. Once you get a hang of it, start maging them in melee armor for safety. Guthan and verac are the biggest nightmare to lower levels. However, I do highly suggest you get your magic higher, so you have access to better spells and equipment. with 50 magic your options are quite limited, I suggest at the very least to level 70, 80 preferably so you can use polypore staff 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapenoob101 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hello there. Thanks allot for your detailed post, If I do decide to get my magic to 80, Will I need to have done desert treasure to actually complete barrows? Currently my slayer is 27, would I need to level it up more? If so, till what level? Also, what ATK/STR stats do I need? Thanks allot, really appreciate your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 50 slayer would be a good place to start, allows access to slayer dart and use of broad bolts, though your higher magic spells will eventually out do slayer dart. Attack and strength of 80 or so is a good place to aim as a starting point, obviously higher the better. Desert treasure isn't strictly necessary, but it helps tremendously with the Canifis house portal, cuts down your travelling time a lot. The blood/ice spells are also nice. If you are quest fan, consider working towards Branches of Darkmeyer (quite high requirements, skill and quest wise), as it gives access to the Drakan Medallion, has a teleport that literally put you at barrows. You don't need to kill Vanstrom to access the teleport. While you don't need desert treasure for this quest line, it is a lot longer than DT, and has 67 slayer requirement as well. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapenoob101 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Wow, amazingly informative! Thanks allot, Will post progress on my "barrows climb." Just talking to a random guy at the GE and apparantly the king black dragon is harder than barrows? Would you agree? Also how much harder is the kal'phite queen than barrows? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer205 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Kalphite queen, despite her low level for a boss is pretty difficult. If you want to try a different boss maybe try the mole? Not exactly profitable but it's probably the next step in difficulty between barrows and kbd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapenoob101 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Sure, thanks allot :) Will keep you guys updated on how my exploration of runescape content goes. Remember playing classic, has changed so much its quite amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 A blog in Blogscape would be a lot better place to post updates, just so you know :) good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluud Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 With your stats mole should be quite good to try, Kalphite Queen is actually quite a lot more difficult than you would first think, as homer said. Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Once you try a mole, imagine that KBD is significantly more difficult. A properly geared and invent'ed character could kill lots (possibly dozens) of KBD on one trip, the same person, using the same inventory, might only last a handful of KQ's, mainly due to her nearly unavoidable ranged attack, which frequently hits around 200-low 300's, and when she (or the RNG) isn't in the mood, you could guzzle down a lot of brews/food. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Once you try a mole, imagine that KBD is significantly more difficult. A properly geared and invent'ed character could kill lots (possibly dozens) of KBD on one trip, the same person, using the same inventory, might only last a handful of KQ's, mainly due to her nearly unavoidable ranged attack, which frequently hits around 200-low 300's, and when she (or the RNG) isn't in the mood, you could guzzle down a lot of brews/food.Just as a fun note, it is possible to kill lots of KQs in a trip, it's just annoying to do because you need to ss flash a lot. Magic hits surprisingly well and blood barrage can sustain you.Of course, the KQ has an average drop of about 30k gold, so it's not really worth hunting her anyway. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapenoob101 Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hey guys, Finally 80 mage on my main now, Other stats are 71 ATK, 70 STR and 70 DEF with 51 Prayer. I bought a polypore staff, what other gear would I need to do barrows? Could you give me a full list of items please :) Some guy on reddit reccomended this build: EquipmentHead: Helm of neitznotBody/Legs: Mystic or dagonhai robesWeapon: Polypore staffOff-hand: God book if you have, otherwise Fally Shield 2+Cape: God cape, unless meleeing Karil/Ahrim, then obsidian cape or whatever you usually use to meleeBoots: Mystic boots, unless meleeing Karil/Ahrim, then dragon bootsGloves: Barrows gloves or regen braceletRing: Tokkul-Zo if you have, or Explorer's Ring 3+InventoryOptional: melee armour for Karil/Ahrim (chest and leg armour, normal and spec weapon, defender)If meleeing, bring a super attack and strength potionOptional but really helpful: Vecna skullPrayer potions (since you probably want to do a few rounds at once, I'd suggest 2 or 3)Food (lobsters or higher)Emergency teleport what do you guys think?Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Basically:Get your magic damage % boost up as high as you can: arcane necklaces, Subjugation robes etc.Boost your magic level: Vecna's, magic potions.Boost your magic attack bonus: Ahrim's robes, Dagon'Hai robes Prayer bonus is less useful in the Barrows than usual.You don't need defence bonus since you'll be using protect prayers.You need a secondary attack style for Ahrim since you can't mage him, ranged is best, otherwise you may just want to ignore Ahrim. Bring a ranged top and weapon (rune crossbow works). For the tunnels, praying 24/7 is annoying and costly so it's recommended to bring high-melee defence body/leg armour and maybe a shield. Guthan's and dragonfire work nicely. So, your inventory would be:3 armour switches for tunnels2-3 switches for AhrimVecna's skull, 2 magic potions and a ranged potion for Ahrim5-10 prayer potions~5 pieces of food just in case for the tunnelsA teleport (house tablets recommended)Leaving a few spaces for loot. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levells Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 If you're praying constantly (against the brothers and in the tunnels), the only time you'll really use food is if Verac hits you multiple times. If you're going to do more trips with your prayer level, you will definitely want more than just 2-3 prayer pots. If you're going to use an offensive ring, you should keep Ring of Wealth in your inventory and equip it before you open the chest. On that note, a +1 magic/prayer probably won't be that significant. Tokkul-zo is good since that would cover magic and melee, although someone might suggest a Berserker ring for the strength bonus when meleeing. An alternative to god cloaks is the Ardougne cloak (preferably 3/4) because it boosts magic and prayer. You should also prioritize getting done the Morytania hard tasks for halved prayer drain and double runes. Also, the teleport you get in Branches of Darkmeyer will boost your trips/hr quite a bit, especially when combined w/ the Ardy cloak for an easy altar. I know with your stats, this will be more of an "in the future" kind of thing, but it will really boost your profit as well. Otherwise, you'll probably only make ~300-400k/hr w/o Barrows items. For any brother you melee, unless it's Bandos or something to boost your stats, I wouldn't bother with a swap. You can melee just fine in magic robes. Defender and anything similar is a must. Also, Ahrim's > mystic. The brothers have almost non-existant magic defense, but I don't think the extra accuracy would hurt. If you can/want to use dagonhai, you may as well for the prayer though. Karil can be polypore'd quite effectively. Edit: Sniped :ph34r:Subjugation is still very costly, but yes the % bonus would be useful. Just need a few more defence levels to think about getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Arcane Stream, yes, Vecna Skull, yes, Ahrim/Dagon Hai robes, GOD NO You dont need anything higher than 20 magic attack bonus for barrows, and praying against Guthan in non-melee defense armor will simply drag the fight out (he heals through prayer, unless that has changed since the last time I was there). Also, tunnels have plenty of things that you won't be pray on, wearing melee armor negates a lot of the damage. The extra accuracy is redundant when you take into account the possibility of Guthan being dragged on, or the extra damage you take while transversing the tunnels. Melee armor ensures a greater breathing space while having negligibly small penalty. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levells Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Regardless of healing or not, Guthan takes no longer than any other brother to kill with polypore, in full Ahrims. Up to the OP to see what is most effective for them. For me, with higher prayer and hard tasks done, I pray in the tunnels and don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Regardless of healing or not, Guthan takes no longer than any other brother to kill with polypore, in full Ahrims.His magic defense isn't any higher than the other melee brothers. The only difference is that he heals. So his healing affect is exactly what makes it take longer to kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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