Jump to content

Welcome to Rune Tips, the first ever RuneScape help site. We aim to offer skill guides, quest guides, maps, calculators, informative databases, tips, and much more to help you get the most from the Massive Online Adventure Game, RuneScape, by Jagex Ltd © 2009.

Report Ad

Welcome to Forum.Tip.It
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Behind the Scenes: June 2013


  • Please log in to reply
158 replies to this topic

#141
Th e Doctor
[ Display Name History ]

Th e Doctor

    Demon Vanquisher

  • Members
  • 2,081 posts
  • Joined:25 October 2010

I never plan on using my house again unless they nerf warbands so I could care less if the construction update is worthwhile at all.


Huh? What about..
  • Teleing from PVM situation to POH, restoring summoning and prayer points, then teleporting to a bank (likely using mounted glory teleport to Edgeville)? I don't remember the last time I had to tele from a PvM situation, for bossing I just take the death and get back to my grave, for slayer lol at dying, I use tokkul-zo to get right next to a bank.
  • Storing costumes and pets? I don't keep any cosmetic items or pets.
  • Getting Construction Rocks? No interest in getting the statues done as I never plan on getting comp cape. If I ever get the max cape I will quit the game.
  • Teleporting to locations not on your current spellbook (I.E on Lunar spellbook wanting to teleport to Kharyll (Canifis) ? Teletabs, lodestones, and staying on ancients means I never need this. There's good alternatives for every teleport spell that lunar has.
  • Repairing your degradable armour? You have me here, I'll be using my house once a year for this.
  • Training your prayer (I see you are level 95) ? Misc prayer training is all I'll be doing for this (beams from warbands etc).
I'm sure I've missed some other reasons.

Do you really plan on never using your house again?



Responses in bold, and like I said, unless the update adds significant value and reasons to going to my house I won't be going there any time soon. Prayer potions are so cheap and there's so many summoning obelisks around I won't be using it for restoring those either.


Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3

Nex : 1 Zaryte Bow

Kalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword


#142
Hedgehog
[ Display Name History ]

Hedgehog

    ???

  • Monster Hunting Team Leader
  • 7,788 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:18 November 2006
  • RuneScape Status:Retired
I think every major city should have a house portal. And you should be able to decorate your house based on its location. Buying Darkmeyer house.

#143
Tansuo
[ Display Name History ]

Tansuo

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,088 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Great Britain
  • Joined:9 June 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Equenox 1
  • RSN2:Equenox 2
  • Clan:Primacy

Responses in bold, and like I said, unless the update adds significant value and reasons to going to my house I won't be going there any time soon. Prayer potions are so cheap and there's so many summoning obelisks around I won't be using it for restoring those either.


The ease of access to obelisks and cheap prayer potions aside, its just so much easier to use your POH.

1 - Silly of you to die in PVM situations. Why do you not save yourself the hassle of having to bank and withdraw a few items, go and loot grave, restock and start again when you could just teleport and start afresh? All very well using Tokkul-Zo, but you don't get a summoning recharge do you.

2 - How about xp boosting costumes? You can also store armour (notably Void and Hunter Camo) and capes there.

3 - Most people who are now max/comp once took that attitude. Odds on you will drop it, but fair enough - it's a trim requirement after all.

4 - Fair enough argument, Ancients is the most usefull spell book at the moment (barrage) but a lot of people do use Lunars (NPC contact and for Farming).

5 - Mwahahaha (but using it once a year? How little do you do combat?)

6 - Not sure you're going to get far doing misc prayer training. Bone crusher might rake in a few k exp a day, warbands are what.. 6k exp per beam? max of 3 beams per day. Although odds are that the beam fails/you're not the first there so lets just say you successfully siphon 1/3 (cmon, that's being generous). The exp from 95-99 is 4.2m. So lets say you get around 10k Prayer exp per day, you might dump in the occasional effigy (although that would be stupid) so around an extra 50k per month, + troll invasion (~71k at 95) and god statues (~15k x 4) that puts you at (30 day month) 481k prayer exp per month (but there are going to be days when you get more/less) so you're looking at 10 monthsish to 99 Prayer. Prayer training for free is always great, but why wait 10 months for it when you are very likely to have the cash to just buy the level and save yourself a lot of time in the future (allowing you to divert the exp rewards from troll/statues/effigies) into other things, that are certainly more worth it than prayer (fishing/agil etc).

The cost currently for you to buy 95 prayer is 36m (Dragon Bones). QBD is anywhere from 2-4m per hour, GWD likewise (unless you're camping Sara for Hilts or something, not sure on this). I'd be conservative and say Nex is 4m/h and I'm not sure about KK, so I'd say similar (hate this damn boss). Generally, the best pvm things atm are around 4m. So this is gunna take you 10 hours to generate the cash to buy 99 prayer. Now, you can altar around 1.5-1.8k bones per hour (the upper end using a yak) so lets say 1.6k for you. You need approx 17k dbones to 99, so we're talking 11-12 hours, factoring in distractions and such.

This adds up to a rough estimate of 21-2 hours of work, over perhaps the course of a few days, in comparison to 10 months of diverting exp you could use for slower skills, onto prayer. Now, some of the maths here may be wrong, but it's pretty obvious that it's going to be better just to get the levels now. It'll provide immediate benefits in PVM and will further help things such as dungeoneering.
Your call though ofc.

xcsx7c.png | 3gliP.jpg | 51y5tv.png  |  8mO5K.jpg

A Blog to Bathtubs for Beginners
Quest Cape | 99 Defence Achieved 11-Jul-2011 17:41 | 99 Prayer 11-Jul-2012 | 99 Constitution 02-Aug-2012

99 Attack 31/10/2012 | 99 Dungeoneering 31/10/2012 | 99 Strength 31/10/2012 | 99 Magic 2/12/2012

99 Range 16/12/2012 | 99 Herblore 25/12/2012 | 99 Summoning 4/1/2013 | 99 Firemaking 6/3/2013

99 Farming 10/4/2013 | 99 Slayer 11/7/2013 | 99 Fletching 21/8/2013  |  99 Smithing 22/8/2013 

99 Crafting 19/12/2013  |  99 Cooking 15/1/2014  |  99 Agility 25/1/2014  |  99 Thieving 01/02/2014

99 Construction 21/04/2014  |  99 Woodcutting 04/03/2014  |  99 Fishing 17/04/2014  |  99 Mining 23/07/2015

99 Divination 27/07/2015  |  99 Runecrafting 20/08/2015  |  99 Hunter 20/08/2015  | Maxed 20/08/2015


#144
Kimberly
[ Display Name History ]

Kimberly

    Retired Staff

  • Members
  • 12,325 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Pennsylvania; United States
  • Joined:26 November 2004
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Kimberly
  • RSN2:Dorelei
Houseparties are always plentiful, ardy capes are faster recharges for prayer, diango holds the majority of exp boosting items, sup restores are dirt cheap for sum points (failing that, lodestone tele after any other instant tele)...

Honestly, the only rooms that have remote use that can't be used elsewhere in other player's homes are the costume room and either the kitchen or dungeon depending on your levels.

While I personally like my house because I have my own altar/tele spots/etc, I can definitely see why many feel construction is worthless...which is the whole reason it needs a rework, isn't it?

hzvjpwS.gif


#145
Cheat
[ Display Name History ]

Cheat

    Dark Wizard Robe

  • Members
  • 839 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:5 July 2010
  • RuneScape Status:None
  • RSN:Miserly
  • RSN2:Snavex
Warbands is 17k xp a beam @Tansuo

Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo
2mqj8rr.png
Minigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets.


#146
Tansuo
[ Display Name History ]

Tansuo

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,088 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Great Britain
  • Joined:9 June 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Equenox 1
  • RSN2:Equenox 2
  • Clan:Primacy

Warbands is 17k xp a beam @Tansuo


I couldn't find any data on it, RsWiki doesn't provide data and TipIt doesn't even have a page on it so I had to ask a friend. I thought it was around the 10k mark for Prayer, with another similar sum of exp for Summoning. Doesn't really matter, I can't be arsed to go back and tweak calculations. My point about time efficiency is garbled enough as it is :P

xcsx7c.png | 3gliP.jpg | 51y5tv.png  |  8mO5K.jpg

A Blog to Bathtubs for Beginners
Quest Cape | 99 Defence Achieved 11-Jul-2011 17:41 | 99 Prayer 11-Jul-2012 | 99 Constitution 02-Aug-2012

99 Attack 31/10/2012 | 99 Dungeoneering 31/10/2012 | 99 Strength 31/10/2012 | 99 Magic 2/12/2012

99 Range 16/12/2012 | 99 Herblore 25/12/2012 | 99 Summoning 4/1/2013 | 99 Firemaking 6/3/2013

99 Farming 10/4/2013 | 99 Slayer 11/7/2013 | 99 Fletching 21/8/2013  |  99 Smithing 22/8/2013 

99 Crafting 19/12/2013  |  99 Cooking 15/1/2014  |  99 Agility 25/1/2014  |  99 Thieving 01/02/2014

99 Construction 21/04/2014  |  99 Woodcutting 04/03/2014  |  99 Fishing 17/04/2014  |  99 Mining 23/07/2015

99 Divination 27/07/2015  |  99 Runecrafting 20/08/2015  |  99 Hunter 20/08/2015  | Maxed 20/08/2015


#147
Binary Mage
[ Display Name History ]

Binary Mage

    Bear Fur

  • Members
  • 297 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:PA, USA
  • Joined:28 May 2010
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Binary Mage
  • Clan:Evolve
Mod Mark did say in the Q&A last year that this year's Construction update (before the total rework) would include new player-locked benefits and training methods inside your POH as a reason for folks to actually level their Construction skill--instead of going to house parties and getting all the benefits there.

Considering we're supposed to see that by the end of the year, it should help Construction be more relevant in the short-term.
Posted ImagePosted Image

The Fallen Diviner


#148
Tansuo
[ Display Name History ]

Tansuo

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,088 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Great Britain
  • Joined:9 June 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Equenox 1
  • RSN2:Equenox 2
  • Clan:Primacy
Mod Mark actually says some good shit from time to time (while he's not busy pratting about being so "excited" about various updates). Shame not all of it comes together in the finished update. Really hope this one comes good though.

xcsx7c.png | 3gliP.jpg | 51y5tv.png  |  8mO5K.jpg

A Blog to Bathtubs for Beginners
Quest Cape | 99 Defence Achieved 11-Jul-2011 17:41 | 99 Prayer 11-Jul-2012 | 99 Constitution 02-Aug-2012

99 Attack 31/10/2012 | 99 Dungeoneering 31/10/2012 | 99 Strength 31/10/2012 | 99 Magic 2/12/2012

99 Range 16/12/2012 | 99 Herblore 25/12/2012 | 99 Summoning 4/1/2013 | 99 Firemaking 6/3/2013

99 Farming 10/4/2013 | 99 Slayer 11/7/2013 | 99 Fletching 21/8/2013  |  99 Smithing 22/8/2013 

99 Crafting 19/12/2013  |  99 Cooking 15/1/2014  |  99 Agility 25/1/2014  |  99 Thieving 01/02/2014

99 Construction 21/04/2014  |  99 Woodcutting 04/03/2014  |  99 Fishing 17/04/2014  |  99 Mining 23/07/2015

99 Divination 27/07/2015  |  99 Runecrafting 20/08/2015  |  99 Hunter 20/08/2015  | Maxed 20/08/2015


#149
Binary Mage
[ Display Name History ]

Binary Mage

    Bear Fur

  • Members
  • 297 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:PA, USA
  • Joined:28 May 2010
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Binary Mage
  • Clan:Evolve
For the most part, Mod Mark tells us things that are true at the time the question was asked or the statement was made. Game development is a crazy business--things can change completely, dates can be moved back, projects can be found to be useless and scrapped in favor of a better idea. What was true today may not be true tomorrow, especially when working with an in-house game engine with its own share of limitations. For all we know, said Construction changes could have been cancelled and, instead, the full Construction rework moved up to later this year. This is the problem of giving people hints and advance information--people may love you for update hints and future plans, but will hate you if a single thing is out of place when it finally gets here (or gets scrapped).

But, generally, most updates don't get scrapped--so there's an incredibly good chance that we will see said Construction update this year. (Especially if he was confident enough about it to mention it to us)

The execution of the update could be miserable (unlikely), but we will probably see it in some shape or form in the coming months.
Posted ImagePosted Image

The Fallen Diviner


#150
michel555555
[ Display Name History ]

michel555555

    Varrock Guard

  • Members
  • 1,447 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:alberta, canada
  • Joined:9 October 2007
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:michel555555
  • Clan:fealty stars
Would love more barrows to chose from. they could add more with the return of the gods.

The book of silske from the emissaries says that silske made wights once before durring the war between the desert gods and zaros when the marahajatt still folowed the desert gods. After the war thoguh the wights were taken from silske by the desert gods and given their rest, and silske wasn't happy about it. They could just add a miniquest were silske with his new found god powers is stealing the wights back from the desert gods which would unlock new barrows. Then remove wand,book and dual c bows from existing brothers and make new dual wield theme ones.

And then we don't have to worry about changing barrows lore or turning random new people into wights.

michel555555.png

click you know you wanna

#151
Hedgehog
[ Display Name History ]

Hedgehog

    ???

  • Monster Hunting Team Leader
  • 7,788 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:18 November 2006
  • RuneScape Status:Retired
Here's a thought:

Sliske turns the signature heroes into wights.

#152
Alg
[ Display Name History ]

Alg

    Troll General

  • Editorial Panel
  • 10,880 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:California.
  • Joined:5 August 2006

Sliske turns the signature heroes into wights.

I actually would like their gear... Ozan's bow is nice.

#153
Hedgehog
[ Display Name History ]

Hedgehog

    ???

  • Monster Hunting Team Leader
  • 7,788 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:18 November 2006
  • RuneScape Status:Retired


Sliske turns the signature heroes into wights.

I actually would like their gear... Ozan's bow is nice.

I think it's a good idea because people who hate them get to see them dead and people who like them get to see them fulfill a purpose. And we also get some cool looking shit.

#154
Th e Doctor
[ Display Name History ]

Th e Doctor

    Demon Vanquisher

  • Members
  • 2,081 posts
  • Joined:25 October 2010


Responses in bold, and like I said, unless the update adds significant value and reasons to going to my house I won't be going there any time soon. Prayer potions are so cheap and there's so many summoning obelisks around I won't be using it for restoring those either.


The ease of access to obelisks and cheap prayer potions aside, its just so much easier to use your POH.

1 - Silly of you to die in PVM situations. Why do you not save yourself the hassle of having to bank and withdraw a few items, go and loot grave, restock and start again when you could just teleport and start afresh? All very well using Tokkul-Zo, but you don't get a summoning recharge do you.

Anywhere you go for the most part has an obelisk on the way. I do so little bossing that it's not worth it and I respawn in edge. Much closer to a bank and being back to the fight than house teleing and going through that horrible loading screen...

2 - How about xp boosting costumes? You can also store armour (notably Void and Hunter Camo) and capes there.

I have a tab for exp boosting items and 200 free bank spaces, I think I'll be fine.

3 - Most people who are now max/comp once took that attitude. Odds on you will drop it, but fair enough - it's a trim requirement after all.

I won't. After I get married (in a year) I won't be playing anymore.

4 - Fair enough argument, Ancients is the most usefull spell book at the moment (barrage) but a lot of people do use Lunars (NPC contact and for Farming).

A lot of people, but not me.

5 - Mwahahaha (but using it once a year? How little do you do combat?)

Very little, (my stats are from 10 years of playing. Plus when I do do combat I use nondegradable GWD armor as most things don't require the defense and the minuscule upgrade to Nex equipment is hardly worth it for the cost vs spending that money on other skills or weapons.


6 - Not sure you're going to get far doing misc prayer training. Bone crusher might rake in a few k exp a day, warbands are what.. 6k exp per beam? max of 3 beams per day. Although odds are that the beam fails/you're not the first there so lets just say you successfully siphon 1/3 (cmon, that's being generous). The exp from 95-99 is 4.2m. So lets say you get around 10k Prayer exp per day, you might dump in the occasional effigy (although that would be stupid) so around an extra 50k per month, + troll invasion (~71k at 95) and god statues (~15k x 4) that puts you at (30 day month) 481k prayer exp per month (but there are going to be days when you get more/less) so you're looking at 10 monthsish to 99 Prayer. Prayer training for free is always great, but why wait 10 months for it when you are very likely to have the cash to just buy the level and save yourself a lot of time in the future (allowing you to divert the exp rewards from troll/statues/effigies) into other things, that are certainly more worth it than prayer (fishing/agil etc).

The cost currently for you to buy 95 prayer is 36m (Dragon Bones). QBD is anywhere from 2-4m per hour, GWD likewise (unless you're camping Sara for Hilts or something, not sure on this). I'd be conservative and say Nex is 4m/h and I'm not sure about KK, so I'd say similar (hate this damn boss). Generally, the best pvm things atm are around 4m. So this is gunna take you 10 hours to generate the cash to buy 99 prayer. Now, you can altar around 1.5-1.8k bones per hour (the upper end using a yak) so lets say 1.6k for you. You need approx 17k dbones to 99, so we're talking 11-12 hours, factoring in distractions and such.

This adds up to a rough estimate of 21-2 hours of work, over perhaps the course of a few days, in comparison to 10 months of diverting exp you could use for slower skills, onto prayer. Now, some of the maths here may be wrong, but it's pretty obvious that it's going to be better just to get the levels now. It'll provide immediate benefits in PVM and will further help things such as dungeoneering.
Your call though ofc.

The jump from 950 to 990 prayer points is hardly worth it. Especially when the misc exp is free and there's no rush


I appreciate the effort but there's no reason for me personally to ever go to my house. It's dead content for now. I do hope that the update brings some life back to it though. Adding a slayer room for doing slayer tasks where you get drops and can pick the monsters that are in it would actually get me to do both skills again.


Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3

Nex : 1 Zaryte Bow

Kalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword


#155
strilmus
[ Display Name History ]

strilmus

    Moss Giant Whipper

  • Members
  • 2,910 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:11 April 2006
  • RuneScape Status:P2P



Sliske turns the signature heroes into wights.

I actually would like their gear... Ozan's bow is nice.

I think it's a good idea because people who hate them get to see them dead and people who like them get to see them fulfill a purpose. And we also get some cool looking shit.

Yeah, I can't wait to get the full set from that ardy maid's gear. Wonder what the full set bonus is...*wink*

8f14270694.jpg


#156
Tansuo
[ Display Name History ]

Tansuo

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,088 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Great Britain
  • Joined:9 June 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Equenox 1
  • RSN2:Equenox 2
  • Clan:Primacy

3 - Most people who are now max/comp once took that attitude. Odds on you will drop it, but fair enough - it's a trim requirement after all.

I won't. After I get married (in a year) I won't be playing anymore.


I take my (metaphorical) hat off to you sir.

xcsx7c.png | 3gliP.jpg | 51y5tv.png  |  8mO5K.jpg

A Blog to Bathtubs for Beginners
Quest Cape | 99 Defence Achieved 11-Jul-2011 17:41 | 99 Prayer 11-Jul-2012 | 99 Constitution 02-Aug-2012

99 Attack 31/10/2012 | 99 Dungeoneering 31/10/2012 | 99 Strength 31/10/2012 | 99 Magic 2/12/2012

99 Range 16/12/2012 | 99 Herblore 25/12/2012 | 99 Summoning 4/1/2013 | 99 Firemaking 6/3/2013

99 Farming 10/4/2013 | 99 Slayer 11/7/2013 | 99 Fletching 21/8/2013  |  99 Smithing 22/8/2013 

99 Crafting 19/12/2013  |  99 Cooking 15/1/2014  |  99 Agility 25/1/2014  |  99 Thieving 01/02/2014

99 Construction 21/04/2014  |  99 Woodcutting 04/03/2014  |  99 Fishing 17/04/2014  |  99 Mining 23/07/2015

99 Divination 27/07/2015  |  99 Runecrafting 20/08/2015  |  99 Hunter 20/08/2015  | Maxed 20/08/2015


#157
Quest_Cape_K
[ Display Name History ]

Quest_Cape_K

    Scorpion Pit

  • Members
  • 528 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England
  • Joined:12 August 2009
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Quest Cape K
  • Clan:PvmDG


3 - Most people who are now max/comp once took that attitude. Odds on you will drop it, but fair enough - it's a trim requirement after all.

I won't. After I get married (in a year) I won't be playing anymore.


I take my (metaphorical) hat off to you sir.

Lies, this is the hat.


#158
Th e Doctor
[ Display Name History ]

Th e Doctor

    Demon Vanquisher

  • Members
  • 2,081 posts
  • Joined:25 October 2010



3 - Most people who are now max/comp once took that attitude. Odds on you will drop it, but fair enough - it's a trim requirement after all.

I won't. After I get married (in a year) I won't be playing anymore.


I take my (metaphorical) hat off to you sir.

Lies, this is the hat.


And with this you win all of my internets for the day. :thumbup:


Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3

Nex : 1 Zaryte Bow

Kalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword


#159
aspeeder
[ Display Name History ]

aspeeder

    Retired Crew

  • Members
  • 3,083 posts
So, now essentially June has blown half of its load to a resounding, "Meh, will require a lot of changes and patches to be decent." I hope to Zaros they will release some of that content they teased, if not this month will be even thinner than most of us expected.

Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users