I wish there was more to the road trip... after day 10 of the month its pretty much done. Oh well its better than hearing peopke complain they couldnt finish.

 

It's much better this way. The Super September Challenge (although I completed all 30) was sort of tedious.

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

Trim was specifically added in as a semi-unreasonable goal. Its not for everyone to complete. Its only for those who have hit that cliff of all 99's, 120 dunge, all tasks, all music, all quests etc and still want something to do. Its meant to be time consuming. I haven't really met many people that cite champ scrolls as the reason they won't trim, it always seems to be the ridiculous castle wars requirement they mention. With Master Capes now, I don't really think that comp trim is something that many will be going for.

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

...Those specific IVs were above average, but far from perfect, so they were still mostly a status thing. :-D

 

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

In Generation II, Shininess is determined by the IVs of a Pokémon. If a Pokémon's Speed, Defense, and Special IVs are all 10, and its Attack IV is 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14 or 15, it will be Shiny.

Terrible IVs are an "advantage"?

Breeding more Pokemon with terrible IVs is also an "advantage"?

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

[spoiler=Off-Topic]Common misconception, but that actually isn't the case.

People think that you can't run away from shinies because they encountered them using the shiny Pokémon gameshark code, which makes the wild encounter act as if it was the red Gyarados encounter.

It makes the wild Pokémon shiny since the red Gyarados encounter forces a shiny, but you also can't run from the red Gyarados encounter, therefore you can't run from shinies encountered using the cheat code.

 

 

 

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

...Those specific IVs were above average, but far from perfect, so they were still mostly a status thing. :-D

 

 

I never stated the advantage had to be perfect or good. It just means they have an edge and it being better than average is an edge right?

 

And y'all are ignoring Bluto =C

I never stated the advantage had to be perfect or good. It just means they have an edge and it being better than average is an edge right?

 

And y'all are ignoring Bluto =C

IVs of 10 out of a maximum of 31 ... an advantage has to be good or it's called a disadvantage.

 

Nonetheless, does this "advantage" exist outside of shinies? Can you get other non-shiny Pokemon with better stats? Of course you can.

 

Are the stats of the trimmed completionist cape only found on the trimmed completionist cape?

 

I never stated the advantage had to be perfect or good. It just means they have an edge and it being better than average is an edge right?

 

And y'all are ignoring Bluto =C

IVs of 10 out of a maximum of 31 ... an advantage has to be good or it's called a disadvantage.

 

Nonetheless, does this "advantage" exist outside of shinies? Can you get other non-shiny Pokemon with better stats? Of course you can.

 

Are the stats of the trimmed completionist cape only found on the trimmed completionist cape?

 

 

Eh back then IV's were a max of 15, not 31.

 

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

Not sure what IVs are, but I wouldn't say that being able to have shiny babies makes shinies useful or gives a game advantage. :P

 

 

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

Not sure what IVs are, but I wouldn't say that being able to have shiny babies makes shinies useful or gives a game advantage. :P

 

 

If you are trying to breed for shinies back in Generation 2, The odds of getting a shiny without a shiny parent were 1/8192. If one of the parents was shiny, this was reduced to 1/64.

 

 

 

 

Gwyn, I beg to differ on the subject of the shinies. The games where they were released in, they actually had an advantage.

What was that, preventing you from running if you encountered one in the wild?

 

 

Actually 2 things: they had pretty much very specific IVs and the other is that it increased the chance to shinyness of a baby to 1/64 instead of 1/8192.

 

Not sure what IVs are, but I wouldn't say that being able to have shiny babies makes shinies useful or gives a game advantage. :P

 

 

If you are trying to breed for shinies back in Generation 2, The odds of getting a shiny without a shiny parent were 1/8192. If one of the parents was shiny, this was reduced to 1/64.

 

And since shinies don't have a game advantage outside of breeding, getting more shinies is also not a game advantage, thus shinies still don't have a game advantage.

The things you learn when threads go off-topic =)   Sometimes these are my favorite parts of the discussion

Runescape Roadtrip - Pokemon Edition

It was more as a comparison to the champ scrolls o.O...

 

If you get 1 champ scrolls the next one wouldn't have a higher droprate. But the shinyess of a pokemon in this very generation would increase the "droprate".

And only for that one generation ;-;

 

Anyway my point is that shinies don't give an in-game advantage that is unique to them. Even in the case of Gen 2, you can get Pokemon with a better IV spread than those of shinies, so there's no real advantage to have a shiny over a normal Pokemon. Much like trimmed comp over normal comp.

 

GAAAHHH!!

Runescape Roadtrip - Pokemon Edition

That explains the hiker outfit.

yeah, i've been making jokes all month long about being able to camp out in the caves and pick fights with teenagers