Jump to content

Welcome to Rune Tips, the first ever RuneScape help site. We aim to offer skill guides, quest guides, maps, calculators, informative databases, tips, and much more to help you get the most from the Massive Online Adventure Game, RuneScape, by Jagex Ltd © 2009.

Report Ad

Welcome to Forum.Tip.It
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Jagex Poll on new MTX stuff


  • Please log in to reply
48 replies to this topic

#1
Yoko Kurama
[ Display Name History ]

Yoko Kurama

    Ghost Cloak

  • Members
  • 1,988 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:20 January 2007

From Reddit:

 

Thread: http://www.reddit.co...ied_survey_for/

 

giosC.png

 

giotY.png

 

giovF.png

 

Unbelievable.



#2
HunterDexter
[ Display Name History ]

HunterDexter

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,625 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Joined:6 August 2008

Yeah, saw it a few hours ago.

As they are wording it, it seems it's a struggle between Jagex and IVP. Jagex wants to use this poll as a method to prove IVP they really shouldn't push this kind of stuff into the game.



#3
Arceus
[ Display Name History ]

Arceus

    Araxyte Authority

  • Administrators
  • 7,086 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Joined:7 December 2010
  • RuneScape Status:F2P

The following video expresses my thoughts in a nutshell on the matter.

 

 

Seriously Jagex, what the hell? And where can I take this survey to add my 1 vote?


"Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art?
---

 

cWCZMZO.png
l1M6sfb.png


My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback.

#4
muggiwhplar
[ Display Name History ]

muggiwhplar

    Dragon Slayer

  • Members
  • 8,000 posts

I really don't think it's that big of a deal. Maybe it would be a big deal back in the day where there were less than 20 people with max total, before skillcapes, before bonus XP weekend and XP lamps. RS3 doesn't really seem to have a very solid lategame plan other than adding more and more arbitrary stuff to grind out for the sake of "completion."


77yLQy8.png


#5
HunterDexter
[ Display Name History ]

HunterDexter

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,625 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Joined:6 August 2008

As I am unfamiliar with other MMO's, what kind of endgame do other games have?



#6
Blutters
[ Display Name History ]

Blutters

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,157 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:U.S.A.
  • Joined:17 January 2008
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Blutters

It would be a big deal if there seemed like even the slightest chance that they'd go through with this. Directly selling many, many levels is quite a few steps from niche-use convenience items, or relatively expensive B/XP based on luck.

I want to have faith that it is as Mod Sayln says, and simply a way to show that there would be overwhelming opposition to such a thing.

 

Put simply, JaGEx, due to essentially failing to branch out with any success to other large products is basically RuneGEx; the company only survives as long as RuneScape does, and to further wear at the integrity of the game when they should, or would be able to continue its life for years to come would be like snugging a noose around its own neck. How much can that coil tighten until they really can't breathe anymore?


2dgucz6.png


#7
Ammako
[ Display Name History ]

Ammako

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 3,541 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 May 2012
The problem being that the journey is what makes RuneScape more than the "end game."

WoW has instant boost to Lv. 90 available for $60, but the game revolves around end-game and the leveling process is only a small part of the game, so you pay to skip that and jump straight into the content. It's not much of a problem there.

But with Runescape, pay to boost all of your skills to 90 and you're skipping a rather large portion of the game. You'll complete all the quests and achievement diaries relatively quickly, then you could choose to max, but you've skipped nearly half of that and there isn't really an incentive to max out your skills. Sure, you get a pretty cape, but maxing out your skills doesn't unlock some epic super-special-awesome content, you just have a cape sitting on your shoulders saying that all your skills are at 99.
You could choose to kill bosses, but RS doesn't have many bosses, most of them not really being relevant anymore. You've got about 4 important bosses, but at this point you'd only be killing them for the sake of killing them, which would probably get boring quickly. Why would you need to make more money to level up your skills when you've already paid real money to have them instantly boosted? I guess you could try to make money to afford better gear, but for what reason? You'd just use that gear to kill the same bosses you've already been killing.

Highscores would be problematic as well. Pay money to have your skills leveled up to 90 instantly and you can now sit up there in the highscores as a high level player. I wouldn't see a problem there if there was a separate highscores for people who paid to boost their skills though, leaving 'legitimate' players in their own table.

It would be a big deal if there seemed like even the slightest chance that they'd go through with this. Directly selling many, many levels is quite a few steps from niche-use convenience items, or relatively expensive B/XP based on luck.
I want to have faith that it is as Mod Sayln says, and simply a way to show that there would be overwhelming opposition to such a thing.
 
Put simply, JaGEx, due to essentially failing to branch out with any success to other large products is basically RuneGEx; the company only survives as long as RuneScape does, and to further wear at the integrity of the game when they should, or would be able to continue its life for years to come would be like snugging a noose around its own neck. How much can that coil tighten until they really can't breathe anymore?

I'd say if they reached the point where they're making a poll on it, then there's a good chance they do have the intention of going through with that at some point in the future.

#8
Alg
[ Display Name History ]

Alg

    Troll General

  • Editorial Panel
  • 10,880 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:California.
  • Joined:5 August 2006

I really don't think it's that big of a deal. Maybe it would be a big deal back in the day where there were less than 20 people with max total, before skillcapes, before bonus XP weekend and XP lamps. RS3 doesn't really seem to have a very solid lategame plan other than adding more and more arbitrary stuff to grind out for the sake of "completion."

I'm not sure if that kind of microtransaction model would work in Runescape though, just because there really isn't anything outside of the grind. Buy your way past it and there really isn't anything left. They'd probably be better off selling item packs than level packs.

 

Speaking as someone who's okay with the "buy endgame stuff so that you can actually play with it" model, of course.



#9
Ammako
[ Display Name History ]

Ammako

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 3,541 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 May 2012
At the very least, all skills boost to Lv. 50 wouldn't be so bad since Lv. 50 is only 101,333 exp.
Boosting straight to 90 in every skill is nearly half of the exp to 99 though.

#10
Bxpprod
[ Display Name History ]

Bxpprod

    Moss Giant Whipper

  • Members
  • 2,777 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Joined:18 August 2007
  • RuneScape Status:Semi-Retired
  • RSN:Bxpprod

Inb4Jameslellingaboutit

 

 

Nice "hidden" poll (anyone able to show where it is in the site etc?). Put it to a PTTP poll for maximum keks, that'll give everyone a true chance to vote and that way (as the JMad said) give a better view on the player pop. view. (BRB making alts to vote no).


 

[bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER

 

 


#11
Saradomin_Mage
[ Display Name History ]

Saradomin_Mage

    The Two and Only

  • Members
  • 7,273 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Varrock Museum
  • Joined:13 November 2004
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
Was an email poll according to those who received it.

6Ij0n.jpg

In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers.


#12
strilmus
[ Display Name History ]

strilmus

    Moss Giant Whipper

  • Members
  • 2,910 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:11 April 2006
  • RuneScape Status:P2P

"we're not going to do it, but we're just asking anyway" after everything else that's happened, is probably the shittiest and most transparent excuse that they've ever used, lol

 

every bullshit moneygrabbing idea on runescape has been preceded by "well, we know this would be shitty to do, but if we appeal to their baser instincts, they'll let us do it anyway"

 

why the hell is this so important and pressing that it's being given a platform when there's hundreds of other things fighting each other thunderdome style in runelabs

 

is there anybody left in this company that actually knows what the [bleep] a game is and how games are made (by games, i mean things that are made for people to enjoy, not long term elaborate scams)


8f14270694.jpg


#13
Ammako
[ Display Name History ]

Ammako

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 3,541 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:21 May 2012
Exactly... Why would they even ask in the first place if there really was no intention of ever doing it?

#14
jayc3399
[ Display Name History ]

jayc3399

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,618 posts

As I am unfamiliar with other MMO's, what kind of endgame do other games have?


WoW put in a way to buy almost max level boosts but it works better for them because the game is more about the last levels and maxed content then the journey there.

It would absolutely kill runescape to have that level of buyables

Archermanme.png
Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007

Iron_Archer.png

Items Acquired

Crystal Pick and Hatchet

Berzerker Ring x 3

3/28 Barrows Items


#15
Bxpprod
[ Display Name History ]

Bxpprod

    Moss Giant Whipper

  • Members
  • 2,777 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Joined:18 August 2007
  • RuneScape Status:Semi-Retired
  • RSN:Bxpprod

Was an email poll according to those who received it.

inb4 sent only to people who buy spins/bonds/coins


 

[bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER

 

 


#16
HunterDexter
[ Display Name History ]

HunterDexter

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,625 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Joined:6 August 2008

 

As I am unfamiliar with other MMO's, what kind of endgame do other games have?


WoW put in a way to buy almost max level boosts but it works better for them because the game is more about the last levels and maxed content then the journey there.

It would absolutely kill runescape to have that level of buyables

 

That's my question: what kind of content does it consist of?



#17
Boris5000
[ Display Name History ]

Boris5000

    Ghost Cloak

  • Members
  • 1,952 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK
  • Joined:11 December 2005
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Volothamp
  • RSN2:Boris I
Why stop at 90? Why not 200M?
Luck be a Lady

#18
Bxpprod
[ Display Name History ]

Bxpprod

    Moss Giant Whipper

  • Members
  • 2,777 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Joined:18 August 2007
  • RuneScape Status:Semi-Retired
  • RSN:Bxpprod

Why stop at 90? Why not 200M?

Don't give them ideas. Christ. We've done it once already. 


 

[bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER

 

 


#19
Alg
[ Display Name History ]

Alg

    Troll General

  • Editorial Panel
  • 10,880 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:California.
  • Joined:5 August 2006

 

Why stop at 90? Why not 200M?

Don't give them ideas. Christ. We've done it once already. 

 

Buy your way up to 96m, then put true mastery capes at 200m~



#20
BloodAngel
[ Display Name History ]

BloodAngel

    Retired Website Crew

  • Website Crew
  • 3,645 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:England, UK
  • Joined:21 May 2005
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Severa

I like how they're not using the Power to the Players poll system for this so when people vote it to oblivion they can still do it anyways.


SLwQsg1.png

"Unfortunately, the real world isn't the same as a fairy tale."





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users