I haven't been this disappointed in since Jagex since free trade removal.

What amazes me is jmods on twitter saying it was better received than expected.

 

Like where was your bar set? Did you bury it and fully expect everyone to hate it?

 

Also dear god please don;t let jagex release more stats on how people enjoy things like their "99% of players enjoy sof because they use it everyday" like it had nothing to do with a flashing button that would not go away if u didnt use it.

 

 

Anyway that aside I hit 2715 (virtual) total level and the game congratulated me for hitting max total level, so I'm totally re-comped and can leave this horror behind now right? right?

So it would seem my disappointing update thread was reincarnated into this thread. That's cool I guess.

 

Anyway, you'd think after all this time they would be able to anticipate how players react to updates like this, understand how they'd train the skill, and even a hint of what they like.

 

Nope. Not a clue. They really should too since numbers show that the people playing it are the same people who havev been playing it for years and they should be able understand them a smidge by now.

I only like this skill because I've never made 50mil profit in under 24hours time (actual time, not gametime)...
But invention really doesn't seem interesting at all. I already feel sorry I didn't leave it at L1, then I could have told everyone I just returned to game when they asked me why I'm L1 inv...

Dungeoneering was a crap update to me (it's a frikkin minigame) and now they call invention an "elite skill", while within 48hours of release there's already someone running around with a master invention cape... Jagex, I sigh at you...  :rolleyes:

How the hell is there 14 people with over 99 and 2 with 120?

 

and how did they do it.

Handcannons

How the hell is there 14 people with over 99 and 2 with 120?

 

and how did they do it.

$$$

There are some speculations about leaked info (as usual). Considering handcannons were like 30-35k before the release of invention they could've stocked quite a lot of them for relatively low cash (1 handcannon = 16k exp or so).

There are some speculations about leaked info (as usual). Considering handcannons were like 30-35k before the release of invention they could've stocked quite a lot of them for relatively low cash (1 handcannon = 16k exp or so).

Probably some, but most likely for personal use more than making money. EXP>GP in Runescape.

Point was it's hard to believe people will hoard handcannons in the thousands if there was no leaked info. It's a huge risk to take with the info we had.

First off, Scuzzy, Le Me and Itrolledu are all 5.2b'ers with lots of gold and the ability to play 30 hours straight.  Itrolledu has his twitch channel with hundreds of viewers (plus his clan) giving advice and/or selling his supplies.  Le Me flips phats and (from what I heard) 50b invested in supplies.  Point is, the top guys right now are 'good' players.  Scuzzy and Le Me were the first to test the handcannons and could of bought out the market before anyone else got to the level to use them.

I read somewhere that Le me who had 84mil xp yesterday had spent around 10bil to get to that point.  

Any ideas if disassembling/siphoning exp is tied to the tier/level requirement of the item ? (In other words if level 10 T90 gives more exp than level 10 T70)

 

Invention Update | Some Immediate Changes

We have made mistakes.

Invention is an extremely complicated skill that interacts with almost every object in the game – as such there was always going to be a need to refine and evolve the skill within the live game. However, It is obvious at this early stage that there have been several areas where the skill has not functioned as we envisaged and we apologise.

 

Changes Today

Therefore, we have just made the following changes today to fix some of the issues that have been caused. These include:

• 1800% increase to the experience gained for disassembly and siphoning of Augmented Gear.

The experience gained by playing differed significantly from that which was intended in design – as such we are realigning the experience to be in line with our original vision and expectations.

• 50% reduction in the experience gained for using materials to fill gizmos.

This method has become the main experience generator for a large number of players and has clearly been more rewarding than is beneficial for the game, particularly in the case of those with substantial in-game personal wealth. There was always an expectation that players with solid banks would be well equipped to progress rapidly, but this has been more successful for those players than intended by design.

 

Further changes to come

We are also going to look deeper into some of the perks, with an eye to improving the usefulness of perks overall. However, this is something that will take a little time, so will not, in all probability, be an immediate change.

It was also not our intention when we released the skill that players would be able to max out the skill within 48 hours of release. This has caused some concern, obviously, and we are aware of various rumours flying around. We do take bug abuse and similar unfair advantages very seriously and investigate thoroughly any potential cases that come to our attention, using our detailed monitoring tools. Where we find that someone has broken the rules of RuneScape, we will take the appropriate action.

In the meantime, your feedback and comments are incredibly valuable to us – please keep that feedback coming and we’ll continue to look to improve Invention.

The RuneScape Team

Huh...interesting.

Glad they have made steps to fix it and level up + siphon is now viable training.

 

But what the hell happened in QA/balancing to let it get to live game in a state where it needed a 1800% xp increase, coupled with the 25% decrease to time taken to level items up yesterday to make it viable!?!

 

I mean sure balancing being off and things being shifted by some percents is expected, but one thousand eight hundred percent? Holy cow.

Lol 1800%, jesus

You'd think this is something they'd fine during play testing. Mistakes were made... Like the fact this skill feels like it was played tested all of 20 seconds.

tfw i decided to spend all evening disassembling for strong components, and then this hotfix drops right onto my lap.

 

dsaddmamufsknYNUAFNFUYKNIBUKdofbULFGLIUFUdyfnufiuDC8UFlibrFKUBDKUr8lNR8LbrflfubfLING

I originally didn't train on release out of sheer laziness.  Now, I'm extremely glad that I haven't. But with volatile the changes have been post release, I'm honestly terrified to start training the skill.

Does anyone have an idea on what the hourly upkeep on an augmented t90 weapon costs, by any chance? Since you can't, for now, unaugment them...

1.5 charge per tick, so 9000 charges per hour for a t90 weapon. Costs 3 divine charges, which is a bit over 110k if made using incandescent energy.

 

 

 

E: Does anyone know how much XP you get if you disassemble an augmented item compared to using an equipment siphon on it? Is it double xp for disassembling the whole thing compared to just using a siphon?

Sidenote - the exp you get from killing stuff is APPROXIMATELY

Level of stuff - 70

 

On an unrelated note, can anyone thing of level 100+ aggro monsters ? (Preferably weak to melee)

- Dark Beast

- Muspah/Nihil if you have a death wish

- Some GWD stuff if you have a death wish I guess

1.5 charge per tick, so 9000 charges per hour for a t90 weapon. Costs 3 divine charges, which is a bit over 110k if made using incandescent energy.

 

 

 

E: Does anyone know how much XP you get if you disassemble an augmented item compared to using an equipment siphon on it? Is it double xp for disassembling the whole thing compared to just using a siphon?

 

Sorry for the late answer, by the looks of it, they give the same exp. (both give 540k at level 10)*. The bonus for disassemble is that you dont waste time gathering mats for the siphoning thingamabob

 

*Some fella told me how much he got from siphoning, take it with a grain of salt

1.5 charge per tick, so 9000 charges per hour for a t90 weapon. Costs 3 divine charges, which is a bit over 110k if made using incandescent energy.

 

 

 

E: Does anyone know how much XP you get if you disassemble an augmented item compared to using an equipment siphon on it? Is it double xp for disassembling the whole thing compared to just using a siphon?

So augment a t90 and I can use it for ~110k/hr indefinitely (assuming energy prices stay even)?