pking might be dead, but stakeing isnt!

 

 

 

Ummm.. Yes it is :-s

sigh... this guide would be the best one for f2p's if pking was still here.

Omg I think im in love with you

My "perfect" low level pure (p2p):

 

 

 

str:90

 

attc:50

 

def:1

 

prayer:1

 

hp:80-85

 

range: 80-85

 

mage:70-...

 

 

 

I used the calculator, and it works, it can be m/2h, r/2h, m/r, prayer still isn't needed!

pking might be dead, but stakeing isnt!

 

 

 

Ummm.. Yes it is :-s

 

 

 

True, true, staking is dead now, he he he... We might as well be the best Bhers we can be, this guide is the past to the top of f2p Bh. also p2p too!

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this still is helpful for lower crater bh... and it reminds me how stupid i was to get prayer :wall: :wall: :wall:

 

nice pure!!! i wish i had ur stats. :pray:

This guide is the best out there tbh.

Cow hides... I was getting crafting to 19 for animal magnitism, had left overs, tanned them sold them and the money started growing!

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Nice guide but at 40 attack 90 str and 85 range you won't be 90 hitpoints. I'm 80 attack 95 strength and 75 range and still 87 hitpoints. Thats an impossible hitpoints level unless you pc it.

i still feel that this guide is :thumbsup:

 

 

 

i am making a new pure and following this guide word for word \

 

 

 

i love this guide

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I'd have to say I disagree with a great deal of this guide.

I'd have to say I disagree with a great deal of this guide.

 

 

 

Explain?

Well past all of the no longer applicable stuff due to updates:

 

 

 

- Magic and Ranging are the skills you would use to fight defence pures, NOT melee.

 

 

 

Magic is really the only viable option. Full rune effectively blocks ranged attacks.

 

 

 

JUST REMEMBER - if you see a HUGE difference between your hitpoints and your combat level, YOU have the upper hand against EVERYONE else at your combat level. For example, my pure is level 53 and has 70hp, and your average level 80 main has 66 hp, so WHAT AN ADVANTAGE!! Just think about what other level 53's would have...

 

 

 

Not the level 80s I know...

 

 

 

- Prayer is usually levelled to either 13, 31 or 43. We do not have any prayer pots available to us, so prayer lasts for perhaps a good solid 20-40 seconds and then just runs out - enough for you to finish one fight.

 

- It's just so annoying having to drink a potion and turn on prayers and wat not...Potions are more than enough for strength bonuses.

 

- You must continuously visit an altar to recharge after 1-2 fights, a pointless waste of time.

 

- Prayer is expensive and time consuming to level up.

 

 

 

43 prayer on a protection prayer does not take 20-40 seconds to fully drain. More like 2 mins.

 

 

 

Str pots add bonuses, but ultimate strength adds even more on top. Like 2-3 more at high strength levels. At level 99, it's the equivalent of 114-5 strength.

 

 

 

Can you not just naturally pick up bones and bury them while training?

 

 

 

He's also downplayed the value of protection prayers. That's a massive 40% reduction in hits.

 

 

 

EDIT: RANGING is BLOODY good against armor at high levels. Since your ranged "accuracy" AND "strength" is judged by your ranged level...it is VERY effective against rune pkers...perhaps even more so than magic...

 

 

 

I doubt it. Rune has a very high negative bonus against magic whereas rune has a very high positive bonus against ranged.

 

 

 

 

ATTACK: 40

 

DEFENCE: 1

 

STRENGTH: 90

 

HITPOINTS: 90

 

MAGIC: 60

 

PRAYER: 1

 

RANGED: 85

 

 

 

 

Why not just go for and even higher magic level at this point?

 

 

 

You do not want to end up surrounded by NPC's starving for your blood, having 1 defence and no more food. That would leave you VERY vulnerable to these NPC - avoid at all costs.

 

 

 

Can you not notice you're out of food and run?

 

 

 

*** Level 1-40 *** Level 2 Men in Edgeville.

 

Between killing each NPC, there's sort of a "waiting time" between each attack (It's very apparent when you're attacking chickens). This time will stack up and make training on such weak guys ineffective after level 20 unless you're in a multi-combat zone.

 

 

 

5. The ONLY reason you would wear dragonhide chaps and vambraces is if you are RANGING. NOT for defence bonuses. Note that no matter how much you think vambraces and chaps give to your "defence-bonus"...your defence is still terrible. If you are meleeing only, wear iron armor, or a skirt - it DOESNT matter, you WILL always get hit often and thats what a low-def pker must sacrifice for incredible strength.

 

 

 

Conversely, this actually supports prayer. If armour is essentially useless, one might as well use robes and boost prayer times.

 

 

 

AMULET - Amulet of Strength. (NOT POWER - no need for the defence bonus)

 

 

 

What about attack bonus? Magic bonus? Range bonus? How about the fact that the strength often does not boost your max hit more than a power ammy?

 

 

 

And overall, I disagree with and dislike the concept pures in general. :roll:

 

 

 

However, I do like some parts of the guide. I certainly have to agree that lessers aren't the XP they're cracked up to be.

^^ i actually disagree with u and i will argue my point

 

 

 

1) u need to train all of them so that u will have good hp level

 

 

 

2) this isnt meant for a level 80. level 50ish. this is afterall a pure guide. if we were talking level 80s this would be a main.

 

 

 

3) for level 50s prayer does drain alot of combat levels and it only lasts for a couple of seconds so it is afterall better to just not to prayer

 

 

 

4) sometimes... its his opinion maybe this one is wrong

 

 

 

5) yeah level magic. i think he just sortof fit that in. i think he has the perfect pure stats tho tbh

 

 

 

6) the point is not to fight harder monsters that u always need alot of food for.

 

 

 

7) its still decent but this guide is alittle outdated.

 

 

 

8) but ur not getting prayer... or at least u shouldnt on a pure. he said u could wear it but he doesnt really care

 

 

 

9) yea but str ammy insures that ur max is one higher than it should be. +6 wont help too much.

 

 

 

i think the general concept of a pure in this guide is fantastic. is it 100% correct. maybe... switch it how u would like. i think he gives u a good idea of wat a pure should look like. the training spots r decent but might not be the best because this guide is old. but its the best pure guide out there imho.

^^ i actually disagree with u and i will argue my point

 

 

 

1) u need to train all of them so that u will have good hp level

 

 

 

2) this isnt meant for a level 80. level 50ish. this is afterall a pure guide. if we were talking level 80s this would be a main.

 

 

 

3) for level 50s prayer does drain alot of combat levels and it only lasts for a couple of seconds so it is afterall better to just not to prayer

 

 

 

4) sometimes... its his opinion maybe this one is wrong

 

 

 

5) yeah level magic. i think he just sortof fit that in. i think he has the perfect pure stats tho tbh

 

 

 

6) the point is not to fight harder monsters that u always need alot of food for.

 

 

 

7) its still decent but this guide is alittle outdated.

 

 

 

8) but ur not getting prayer... or at least u shouldnt on a pure. he said u could wear it but he doesnt really care

 

 

 

9) yea but str ammy insures that ur max is one higher than it should be. +6 wont help too much.

 

 

 

i think the general concept of a pure in this guide is fantastic. is it 100% correct. maybe... switch it how u would like. i think he gives u a good idea of wat a pure should look like. the training spots r decent but might not be the best because this guide is old. but its the best pure guide out there imho.

 

 

 

1. What does that have to do with my point? I didn't say "Don't train all of them." I was saying that magic would be more effective than ranged.

 

 

 

2. He said that the average level 80 has about 70 HP. Not the level 80s I know.

 

 

 

3. Couple of seconds? Try 129 seconds at level 43. If you use monk robes, you're looking at almost 3 mins. 3 full mins of blocking 40% of the potential damage that your opponent could inflict. This would seriously help to negate the effectiveness of using a finishing weapon on you and reduce a boat load of damage.

 

 

 

4. And this is just my opinion. Based on the KB.

 

 

 

5. According to the Tip.it combat calc, you could raise your magic level another 29 levels before it would affect your cb level at these stats. Another 30 levels for higher mage accuracy and passive magic defence? Why not?

 

 

 

6. Aggressive monsters are not necessarily hard monsters to kill.

 

 

 

7. This was still applicable 2 years ago.

 

 

 

8. But it still supports prayer in any case >.>

 

 

 

9. +6 in pretty much any case DOES help. And it also increases ranged, mage, and melee attack. It's +6 mage def is actually somewhat also useful in this scenario since 70% of your mage level provides magic defence.

 

 

 

I never attacked the guide aggressively because it was outdated. If there wasn't a problem of monster waiting time, I would have to agree with the killing of level 7 men, but that's not the case. But that's not the case.

OMG OMG THANX SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS GUIDE (CAPS LOCK BUTTOM IS BROKEN SORRY) :mrgreen: :thumbsup: \ NICE PURE BTW =D>

^^ i actually disagree with u and i will argue my point

 

 

 

1) u need to train all of them so that u will have good hp level

 

 

 

2) this isnt meant for a level 80. level 50ish. this is afterall a pure guide. if we were talking level 80s this would be a main.

 

 

 

3) for level 50s prayer does drain alot of combat levels and it only lasts for a couple of seconds so it is afterall better to just not to prayer

 

 

 

4) sometimes... its his opinion maybe this one is wrong

 

 

 

5) yeah level magic. i think he just sortof fit that in. i think he has the perfect pure stats tho tbh

 

 

 

6) the point is not to fight harder monsters that u always need alot of food for.

 

 

 

7) its still decent but this guide is alittle outdated.

 

 

 

8) but ur not getting prayer... or at least u shouldnt on a pure. he said u could wear it but he doesnt really care

 

 

 

9) yea but str ammy insures that ur max is one higher than it should be. +6 wont help too much.

 

 

 

i think the general concept of a pure in this guide is fantastic. is it 100% correct. maybe... switch it how u would like. i think he gives u a good idea of wat a pure should look like. the training spots r decent but might not be the best because this guide is old. but its the best pure guide out there imho.

 

 

 

1. What does that have to do with my point? I didn't say "Don't train all of them." I was saying that magic would be more effective than ranged.

 

 

 

2. He said that the average level 80 has about 70 HP. Not the level 80s I know.

 

 

 

3. Couple of seconds? Try 129 seconds at level 43. If you use monk robes, you're looking at almost 3 mins. 3 full mins of blocking 40% of the potential damage that your opponent could inflict. This would seriously help to negate the effectiveness of using a finishing weapon on you and reduce a boat load of damage.

 

 

 

4. And this is just my opinion. Based on the KB.

 

 

 

5. According to the Tip.it combat calc, you could raise your magic level another 29 levels before it would affect your cb level at these stats. Another 30 levels for higher mage accuracy and passive magic defence? Why not?

 

 

 

6. Aggressive monsters are not necessarily hard monsters to kill.

 

 

 

7. This was still applicable 2 years ago.

 

 

 

8. But it still supports prayer in any case >.>

 

 

 

9. +6 in pretty much any case DOES help. And it also increases ranged, mage, and melee attack. It's +6 mage def is actually somewhat also useful in this scenario since 70% of your mage level provides magic defence.

 

 

 

I never attacked the guide aggressively because it was outdated. If there wasn't a problem of monster waiting time, I would have to agree with the killing of level 7 men, but that's not the case. But that's not the case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What combat is your pure, have you tryed any of this with 1 defence, have you ever tryed 68 range fighting: a lvl 60 on a lvl 53 main with 40 def.

 

 

 

my main is 100 cb, 4 summoning, 83 hp, and thats with pc just on hp.

 

so especialy with lower levels which pures are made to fight, pures have a greater advantage.

 

 

 

agressives, pures are not made to fight them, food isn't cheap, and this is for fast training, and especially now days with merching gone swordfish isnt easy to get for pures.

OMG OMG THANX SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS GUIDE (CAPS LOCK BUTTOM IS BROKEN SORRY) :mrgreen: :thumbsup: \ NICE PURE BTW =D>

 

 

 

this was how exactly i felt when i first read this guide. this guide is awesome and i support it. i just dont understand why ppl dont agree with this guide.

OMG OMG THANX SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS GUIDE (CAPS LOCK BUTTOM IS BROKEN SORRY) :mrgreen: :thumbsup: \ NICE PURE BTW =D>

 

 

 

this was how exactly i felt when i first read this guide. this guide is awesome and i support it. i just dont understand why ppl dont agree with this guide.

People don't agree with this guide because it's outdated and some of the information is terribly incorrect.

 

 

 

I'd bet my Santa I could kill a maxed out F2P with full rune on with only 59 magic then someone with 99 range.

 

 

 

Also prayer helps A LOT, though it can be annoying going to alter to re-charge but so can be going to the bank to get food while training, its just something pures have to live with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Captainkidd

OMG OMG THANX SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS GUIDE (CAPS LOCK BUTTOM IS BROKEN SORRY) :mrgreen: :thumbsup: \ NICE PURE BTW =D>

 

 

 

this was how exactly i felt when i first read this guide. this guide is awesome and i support it. i just dont understand why ppl dont agree with this guide.

People don't agree with this guide because it's outdated and some of the information is terribly incorrect.

 

 

 

I'd bet my Santa I could kill a maxed out F2P with full rune on with only 59 magic then someone with 99 range.

 

 

 

Also prayer helps A LOT, though it can be annoying going to alter to re-charge but so can be going to the bank to get food while training, its just something pures have to live with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Captainkidd

 

 

 

ur so arrogant. Why cant ppl wake up and see that this is only a pure. of course a main will beat a pure but this is assuming that this pure will end up in the 50s. this is good and why pray? it just wastes combat levels.

ur so arrogant. Why cant ppl wake up and see that this is only a pure. of course a main will beat a pure but this is assuming that this pure will end up in the 50s. this is good and why pray? it just wastes combat levels.

 

 

 

I'M ARROGANT!? You didn't even understand what I was trying to say!

 

 

 

I was saying that I could kill a maxed out F2P MAIN, with a level 59 Magic PURE, faster then anyone with 99 range.

 

 

 

Why use prayer? Well because you get a 15% bonus on attack and strength, and if you actually did the math you'd know that those extra strength levels DON'T equal up to 15% better hitting rate and how much higher you hit.

 

 

 

I'd take a pure with 31 prayer over any pure with 1.

 

 

 

Last edited by Tsunami_Ice on Sun May 21, 2006 4:18 am, edited 3 times in total.

 

And seeing as this guide was last edited two years ago, I think it'd be safe to say its out dated... :lol:

 

 

 

And it looks like you haven't even done any training since you've posted this guide TWO YEARS AGO on your pure, so how would you even know whats up-to-date?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Captainkidd

THE [P E R F E C T] F2P PKER

 

 

 

ATTACK: 40

 

DEFENCE: 1

 

STRENGTH: 90

 

HITPOINTS: 90

 

MAGIC: 60

 

PRAYER: 1

 

RANGED: 85

 

 

 

COMBAT: 65

 

 

 

The HP seems a little high for these stats.

 

 

 

I'm 40 Attack, 91 Strength, 1 Defence, 85 Ranged, 51 Magic (:() and only 84 Hitpoints at my side :D

 

Other than that..

 

 

 

Awesome guide dude.

 

Possibly the best guide I have read, in terms of arguing for your ideas and decisions, grammar and VERY detailed explanations. Very easy to follow, with thorough understanding of where you're coming from :D

 

I haven't had the chance to read all 10 pages of replies, but i'm sure someone is still maintaining this AWESOME guide.

 

 

 

Thumbs up bro :thumbsup: