is amusing, most people who say runesacpe is the best game availible, often havn't played any other mmorpg.

 

 

 

In comparison to other mmorpgs ive played: Asherons call 1/2, EQ 1/2, Lineage 1/2, WoW, SoG, CoH/CoV, DoD online, SWG and matrix online, runescape is simply a pile of cabbage :)

 

 

 

 

 

the best game i played is Asherons Call 2, simply because it had the best community out of any game ive played, WoW is very good yes, but when i was playing AC2, i could call my "online mates" within that game my real life mates aswell. Its the only game i miss playing...hrmpf...shame turbine thought theyd spend all of their resources in DoD instead.

 

 

 

Yea, WoW's community has a lot of great people, but even more whiners. RS has possibley the WORST community of any MMORPG ever. F2P is filled with kids who have no manners and no morals, and member's is only slightly better because you have to pay for access.

 

 

 

The more expensive the game, the better the community. :P Most children can't talk their parents into paying over $100 a year on a game.

You make it sound as if Blizzard paid you to make this post. WoW and RS both have their advantages. To quickly sum up some of the bad points of WoW:

 

 

 

~ The cost. I am not willing to pay that much money for a game, because me and many other people simply don't have the time to be online every single day.

 

~ You can't access your WoW account from just anywhere without installing it.

 

~ You need much better computer specs.

 

~ You can't multitask while playing WoW. One of the best things on RS is being able to play the game while browsing the forums. Keeps you in touch with other people.

 

~ Put it whatever way you want, but the PvP is very weak on most servers. I don't know whether or not it's more fun than on RS, but only very few people do PvP combat there.

 

~ The clan (guild) community is nowhere as good as on Runescape. That's something that made a lot of Wow players come back to RS. It may be a fun game, but if the multiplayer aspects are as good as useless, the fun is gone.

 

~ Way too easy to level up; you can get a lvl60 in 2 weeks if you nolife.

 

 

 

I could go on but I think you got my point. RS has a lot of bad sides, but no more than WoW. I don't blame you for liking one of the games so much but in due time you will realise it isn't all that good as some people make it out to be.

 

 

 

Personally, I'd say the clan community like it is on RS can't be seen anywhere else. I'm not saying it's perfect because some of the things said and done about clans is just unacceptable but generally speaking, the rivalry between clans is exactly what a mmorpg should be about in my opinion. Granted, there are a lot of better games than Runescape but when it comes to mmorpgs, RS is the best to me because of the community.

 

 

 

Not trying to sound harsh here, just stating some facts because you were as kind to only bring up the good sides of Wow and the bad sides of RS. :P

 

Only thing that truly bothers me are the people who post on RS forums all the time, but have a WoW logo in their signatures. That's a whole different story though, but it does prove my point about the lack of a good community (or a tight community, at the very least).

Yes, Blizzard paid me to post as a fan of their game. As if they need it. *Cough*

 

 

 

I will address a couple things you said, because the rest were just opinions.

 

 

 

1.) Guild support on WoW is not even comparable to RS. RS doesn't even let you HAVE a guild, a "guild" on RS is anyone who uses your guild's website and is accepted as a member. :lol: WoW has tabards, tags, etc etc.

 

 

 

2.) Leveling *should* be easy. The end of the game where you get to start doing the instances and reputation and stuff is where the fun is at. The reason a lot of people leave RS is because getting 99 in one skill could very well take you a year plus tons of money. Getting to level 60 (max level) took me about a month my first time and it was a better experience than getting nearly to max level on RS (I'm 123 on RS2, 98 pure on RSC). RS was just a tiring grind EVERYDAY. It never stopped, and the fun never started because "fun" starts when work ends. The work on RS never ends. Once I got 99hp was when I started losing interest, because getting 99 skills is just boring and worthless.

 

 

 

Why would you want to look at forums while playing? That means the game you're playing isn't good enough to keep you occupied. I can look at forums while I play by alt-tabbing...I play a Fury Warrior and a Priest on WoW, both classes are easy to engage a mob and minimize and it'll be dead by the time I come back to it. But I don't, because the game keeps me occupied.

 

 

 

I could sit here all day and tell you, as an experienced player of RS, ever flaw this game has, but in all honesty, it would take too long! Censors that suck, random events that can kill you if you go get a glass of water...It's all BS and isn't very fun.

 

 

 

To each his own, if you like it, great! But I don't, so don't call me out on it like you have to bash me (using opinions) for not liking it.

 

 

 

Point of this post = to show that this game has a large fan-base. Simple as that.

One thing to take into account is that this graph is merely P2P. Imagine what RuneScape's graph would look like if it included F2P. It'd be way way up there.

One thing to take into account is that this graph is merely P2P. Imagine what RuneScape's graph would look like if it included F2P. It'd be way way up there.

 

 

 

It would be around 10% rather than 5%.

There are 61 member servers with an average of 800-900 players on at a time. (52K)

 

There are 71 freeplay worlds with an average of 1200 players. (85K)

 

That's at a time where most Americans are at school and most Australians are asleep, but since the numbers are linear, we'd get the same results on peak times.

 

 

 

So actually, it would be more like 15% - not 10. I'm rounding up because a large deal of the f2p are always at full capacity and you can't include the average of those worlds in excel.

 

 

 

To adress your answers:

 

 

 

1) Ever considered that one of the reasons the RS clan system is so popular is because it isn't official? We don't need Jagex's interference, in fact, I'm glad they don't interfere.

 

 

 

2) I'm lvl100 on RSC, 124 on RS2 (have been maxed out for almost 2 years now) so I know how it feels to reach these goals. Back in RSC I would've strongly agreed with you, but now? There is so much more variety in RS now, and don't say WoW never gets repetitive either because most of the quests there are terribly boring, similar to the quests we got on RS 2 years ago. Bring "x" amount of to .

 

RS has PoH's, many more skills apart from combat, constant updates and one of the most interesting PvP aspects. WoW has great Players versus monsters fights, they have great graphics, characters look completely different etc. So yes, both have their strong points and both can be played in a thousand ways. If you find a mmorpg that much of tiring grind, blame your lack of creativity, not the game.

 

 

 

3) Forums keep you in touch with the game while also enhancing the social aspects of the game. As far that is concerned, from what I've heard players on WoW are generally a lot more polite but at the same time, very boring because you don't have the chance to get to know many of them like you do on Rs.

 

 

 

Oh and just because you consider yourself an experienced player of RS doesn't mean you, and only you are right about this. I'm just as experienced as you, I've been playing this game far longer than 90% of the people reading this and unlike many, I don't go with the mainstream and actually have my own opinion. My opinion about WoW, however, is mainly based on the opinions of people I know, both from Rs and irl. They all tell me the quests are boring and they all tell me the PvP is useless, so there must be something true about it, correct?

 

 

 

But yeah, to each his own like you said. Personally I don't have the time or dedication to start all over again with a mmorpg and yes, I've tried WoW before but it simply doesn't appeal to me. And fyi, as I clearly stated in my last post, I didn't mean to bash you but you did sound a bit like one of those Nintendo/Sony/Xbox fanboys who'd rather die than to admit there are some flaws in their systems.

IN some ways the grind is GOOD, once you acheive your target you look back and remember how hard it was to get and feel proud of yourself, i played WOW on a freinds account, and yes the graphics are better, but it is so easy to lose interest in at lower levels, thats something runescapes not

i didint like WoW donno why, the quest's seemed to be the same thing just harder.

i didint like WoW donno why, the quest's seemed to be the same thing just harder.

 

 

 

They are pretty much. :lol:

I've seen my cousin play WoW before, all he does is to kill the same monsters with his clan over and over again? His clan doesnt even dare to step inside PvP..I mean what is a RPG without PvP? Well I've played WoW before..using my cousin's account. My character is level 6, Pretty fun I'd say, good graphics. If a game can suck me in at an early level...I'm sure it'll be even more addictive and interesting in later game stages.

 

 

 

Many of you here say that Maplestory is good. That is the biggest bullcrap I've ever heard. It is without PvP- all you see is people jumping around in a comical 2D world slaying Mushrooms. Secondly, the community there is no better than Runescape's. In Maplesea(Asia's version) All you'll see is people with names such as AzNbOi1131231231312 talking in a mutilated English version.

 

 

 

Well, back to Runescape. Honestly, I'm not surprised at the P2P growth here, seeing all the updates members get that spur F2P to become P2P. Well, RS has a very decent PvP system, which is one of the more attractive areas of the game. Compared to other games such as MU online, Maplestory, etc, It's either they don't have a PvP system, or they have 1 whereby you'll be dead in seconds when someone attacks you because all you'll see is a big twirl of magic and you're dead.

 

 

 

We can see that a good PvP system is vital to the game's growth and survival. Rs has been around for quite a long time and pretty much survived due to the wilderness. We have the magebank, axehut, gds, and all you can name.

I think that the quests in RS are very unique and humourus compared to the other mmorpgs and there is a lot more emphasis (hope I've used that word correctly :oops: ) on skills than WoW. The quests and skills are not linear IMO.

Quests are used as a way of leveling 99% of the time, though almost every one has something to do with Lore of SOME sort.

 

 

 

I hate how you'll wait a month for an RS update and it'll be ONE quest that takes an hour. :lol: It just wasn't worth it to me anymore to wait.