12pure34 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Ah, more people that like the economy. To all people who say that merchanters don't ruin the economy.. :^o & :shame: To all people who say that merchanting is as hard as training skills :^o & :shame: To all people who say that alching ruined it all It sure helped In the end, merchanting ruined it all. Why: calculate: merchanters have this idea: buying something cheap and selling something expensive, so they have a bit of profit. This is raising the prices! Isn't it, you think, then go back to school. They see: wow, he is selling it even more expensive. I'll do the same, but an edge expensiver. Robin hood prices went up. And the WHIP-price, a true solo currency is going up and down. Almost like the DOWJONES. Alching helped, because it pumps lots and lots of Goldpieces in the economy. And that opens room for more expensive items to be payed. But in the end, they always turn out to go to the merchanters. Merchanters can't excist without skillers, but skillers can exist without merchanters \ And that last sentence should be repeated EVERYWHERE time .. from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaddd Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Congradulations, you have advanced a Common Sense level! Seriously... But yeah, everyone thinks skill suck now. I'm 'rich'. I got it from skills. Maybe an hour or two o merchanting here and there, but mainly skills. I am level 72. I had a cople Level 60's come up to me in CW's. I wa sin Full Dragon + Full Infinity, switching them on and off. They said "You look like a level 100!" I go "Why do I look like them?" They replay: "High levels are merchants" I told them I used skills, they called me a lying noob, and said that skills are for ***holes. The ONLY thing that beats making Natures at 9 RC is Mask Set merchanting... Which is quite complex.... 91 RC ftw! (I hope I get it soon) \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondor Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Although I don't merchant, look, they're level 3s, you're lvl 79, you have the same if not better chance to merchant... if you can't beat em join em, untill then, stop complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryhyper Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I'm not taking advice from someone on the economy that can't spell economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilts36 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 i would rather raise skills then merch. i dont know if you call this merching. but i buy rares and sit on them for long periods of time. :-P but i would rather raise skills extreamly high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iv_Green_vI Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 why why, why do people just keep on complaining about this kind of stuff let it be and watch it explode then we'll have to start from scratch, thats my theory \ : :XD: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviej Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 lol im thinking its more due to the prices of rares, alching and macroers :? You have it right here... also, more toward the problem of merchanting, is the problem of the fact that its the level 3s that play for only a few months anyway. I haven't met anyone who started in the past 12 months (that doesn't mean there aren't decent people who've started in the last 12 months, only that i have not met them, so they are rare) that i ended up liking, or remotly tolerating further then a trade. So many of the newer players don't have the same respect for the game, not so much the economy. I've met many jerks this year, and it's usually those who spend 3 months to get their total skill double mine, or those who spend 3 months tripling my banks worth. The you turn around to be told you have no life by them. I think your topic here is 100% correct, but all that information doesn't do much to support your title. You can say merchanting ruined the game, but merchanting is a part of life. Do you think merchanting in RL is ruining the world? No, obviously theres a whole topic i could raise about what is ruining the world, i would rather not do so. That's all i got for this one -steve My account spent most of the last 10 months "locked" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronzomanzi Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Okay... Runescape has the worst economy of any MMORPG I have played yet, and it is because of merchants. Among the other games I have played, there have been merchants, but nowhere near the extent of the merchanters on Runescape. Back in RSC, there were no merchanters, the economy was simple, everyone got along. I suppose it was due to the horrific graphics, which most likely turned most children away. However, when Runescape 2 was released, more children got involved. Sadly, a majority of children are obsessed with money, thus merchanting evolved. Soon, people were getting rich from merchanting, and everyone had to hop on. Prices started to rise, and haven't stopped. Personally, I think Jagex should fake another dupe and reset the rares pricing system :thumbsup: P.S. I'm not implying that all children ruined RS, or are all bad people, just that there are many rotten apples that ruin the view of other children. Also, if anything came out wrong, it's because it's 6AM and I haven't gotten any sleep, so I am sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_User Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Money definantely does not define a player. In my opinion, a merchanter having 10M is about equal to a skiller who made 5M from skills. Merchanting is way too easy, and people who merchant tend to get cocky because they did it the fast way, and have more money than most. I am, I admit, a former merchanter. But if there's one thing I've learned it's that merchanting is not as self rewarding as skilling...Making money when I used my skills felt a lot better than it did merchanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pure34 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Money definantely does not define a player. In my opinion, a merchanter having 10M is about equal to a skiller who made 5M from skills. Merchanting is way too easy, and people who merchant tend to get cocky because they did it the fast way, and have more money than most. I am, I admit, a former merchanter. But if there's one thing I've learned it's that merchanting is not as self rewarding as skilling...Making money when I used my skills felt a lot better than it did merchanting. well said and +1 \ Also, why is merchanting a skill. I never practiced it and yes, I am actually pretty good at merchanting. But I find it boring, as you gain no profit, only in the form of money. And since I am F2P.. There is more gain to me in skills taht allow new abilitys, then an extra set of Rune which i already had for ages.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedite Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 A lot of people would find high-level skilling incredibly boring, and would far rather have money to invest in new items than a higher number (:o) in an xp column. You play the game in a different way to them. That doesn't mean that your way is better, or that they're ruining the game. And i've easily met as many idiot skillers as i have idiot merchants. In a little hilltop village they gambled for my clothesI bargained for salvation and they gave me a lethal doseI offered up my innocence, I got repaid with scorn"Come in'', she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenbee3110 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I'm a converted ex merchant. I originally merchanted with my friend, it was a bit like a competition. I clocked up about 20M in a few weeks (good for me and my lack of patience!) Then, one day in the park, I got chatting to a few fellow merchanters. They were boasting about how much they had (We're talking 75M+). I remember thinking- what is the point? (They were a level 23 and a 65). It's so insane that you can make massive amounts of money with very little time or effort. But it's not like you can't get profit from skills- it's just at a slower rate. I recently made 2.2m off fletching- I was very happy with the xp. I think rares should be made untradeable. It would do the economy a world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin47 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 There are ways to merchant and raise your skills, You just have to find those ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nubstyle Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Okay... Runescape has the worst economy of any MMORPG I have played yet, and it is because of merchants. Among the other games I have played, there have been merchants, but nowhere near the extent of the merchanters on Runescape. Back in RSC, there were no merchanters, the economy was simple, everyone got along. I suppose it was due to the horrific graphics, which most likely turned most children away. However, when Runescape 2 was released, more children got involved. Sadly, a majority of children are obsessed with money, thus merchanting evolved. Soon, people were getting rich from merchanting, and everyone had to hop on. Prices started to rise, and haven't stopped. Personally, I think Jagex should fake another dupe and reset the rares pricing system :thumbsup: P.S. I'm not implying that all children ruined RS, or are all bad people, just that there are many rotten apples that ruin the view of other children. Also, if anything came out wrong, it's because it's 6AM and I haven't gotten any sleep, so I am sorry! pfft, you must not of played much rsc then fally world 2 and varrock world 1 were still the main merchanting places back in rsc.. merchanting has been around since runescape started... and lmao if you don't the like economy, go to a different game.. we'll function fine without ya.. like the old saying: if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen :-w EDIT: btw, every human being is obessed with money.. it's a natural thing called greed.. can't get rid of the human elements of anything and sure.. the kids did ruin the game, but not the economy.. at least not in my opinion... merchants have their own way of functioning.. if you don't want to bother the time learning it, don't criticize (sp?) it... again, sorry.. but i couldn't resist.. this whole topic puts me on edge \ sig by Misterxman Un-Retired from RS X-mas 2009, 93/99 Fishing, 105 combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviej Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Okay... Runescape has the worst economy of any MMORPG I have played yet, and it is because of merchants. Among the other games I have played, there have been merchants, but nowhere near the extent of the merchanters on Runescape. Back in RSC, there were no merchanters, the economy was simple, everyone got along. I suppose it was due to the horrific graphics, which most likely turned most children away. However, when Runescape 2 was released, more children got involved. Sadly, a majority of children are obsessed with money, thus merchanting evolved. Soon, people were getting rich from merchanting, and everyone had to hop on. Prices started to rise, and haven't stopped. Personally, I think Jagex should fake another dupe and reset the rares pricing system :thumbsup: P.S. I'm not implying that all children ruined RS, or are all bad people, just that there are many rotten apples that ruin the view of other children. Also, if anything came out wrong, it's because it's 6AM and I haven't gotten any sleep, so I am sorry! oh no, you see, merchanting did exist in the classic version, it was just confined to the boundaries of world 1 and none other. Today, i assume one could probably make more sitting in a random bank on a random members world then worlds 1 or 2 at most times of the day. (i speak of crowded banks, not like yanille or al karid) There has never been a lack of kids claiming to be my age on runescape (i started at 13, now 17) and kids any younger then 12 tend to not see the value of money, so i don't quite agree there. a good reason for the complex economy in runescape is the amount of players. Not to many other online games have comparable numbers of players, and therefore not as much money is in the system. I don't think anyone could accuratly guess the ammount of gold in the game, making it near impossible to set any level of control in the economy. A fake dupe would only result in a temporary price catastrophy, enabling younger players to get hundreds of millions of gold in the time it would take me to get from 84 to 90 attack. the prices would restore as soon as everyone realized that rares were not so abundant... -steve My account spent most of the last 10 months "locked" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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