wozfe Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 when I checked the new enchanted bolts special effects, it struck my mind that diamond bolts had almost the same effect as verac (hitting through armor). So if kq's first form's prayer counts as armor, (I've heard that you still occasionally hit through it) shouldn't the diamond bolts hit through it? What do you think? Got fire cape at the 17th of June 2006Abyssal whip drops: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangeKing Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 thats a good idea some1 who isnt busy right now should try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubert7 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 The kalphite queens first forms prayer doesnt count as armor, it counts as prayer! Diamond bolts would only work on second form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Blaze Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 The "KQ" doesnt use prayer. Those "prayers" you see above its head are just increased def against those type of attacks. So yes it most likely could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel_tide Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 i went to kbd with them (94 range potted to about 107)- killed 2 in a trip - not bad but not gonna go back- most of the times i hit them wasnt with the special though, the special is pretty rare, although i did hit a 22 with it. Would never work against KQ though. 118+ combat1730+ total85 slayer95 mage94 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the prayers you see above her head are still prayer. Just because you can hit through them with veracs doesn't mean that it is just armour. Look at him in that barrows, his hits go through your protection from melee. Therefor Veracs hits can also ignore prayer as well as armour. "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizaga57 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Can you back that up with any facts? It is a fact that the Veracs set hits through prayer as well as ignoring def. The Kq is seen to be using prayer, this is obvious as the symbols are above her head. Prayers may count as def, but they are still a 100% protection. "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Diddy Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Can you back that up with any facts? It is a fact that the Veracs set hits through prayer as well as ignoring def. The Kq is seen to be using prayer, this is obvious as the symbols are above her head. Prayers may count as def, but they are still a 100% protection. Actually the "supposed" prayers on top of the the Kq is high defence against that, ive seen people hit with mage and range on the 1st form but little damage. And yes Verac hits through prayer and defence and armour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Can you back that up with any facts? It is a fact that the Veracs set hits through prayer as well as ignoring def. The Kq is seen to be using prayer, this is obvious as the symbols are above her head. Prayers may count as def, but they are still a 100% protection. Actually the "supposed" prayers on top of the the Kq is high defence against that, ive seen people hit with mage and range on the 1st form but little damage. And yes Verac hits through prayer and defence and armour Really? I guess I was wrong then. I had never heard or seen anyone hit with mage/range on her first form, no matter how little damage it delt. My mistake, sorry about that. "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Wolfe Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 What about instead of the diamond one, use the dragonfire bolts on the second form? Hitting 50's would be VERY nice... Pure F2P Hiscores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerskull Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 This is a question for the good people at Jagex! Seriously, someone ask them... I'd like to see you solo all three dag kings at once.Easily done with just 2 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojann2 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Can you back that up with any facts? It is a fact that the Veracs set hits through prayer as well as ignoring def. The Kq is seen to be using prayer, this is obvious as the symbols are above her head. Prayers may count as def, but they are still a 100% protection. Last Time me and Leester's Went to KQ He Used Black Mask on First Form, Didn't Switch and hit a 20+ WITHOUT FULL VERACS ON. That is proof that the prayers are just armour. Knowledge Talks| | Wisdom Listens~~Heroes Get Remembered, But Legends Never Die~~Xbox Live & Playstation Network Name: Trojann2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supuh Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Can you back that up with any facts? It is a fact that the Veracs set hits through prayer as well as ignoring def. The Kq is seen to be using prayer, this is obvious as the symbols are above her head. Prayers may count as def, but they are still a 100% protection. Actually the "supposed" prayers on top of the the Kq is high defence against that, ive seen people hit with mage and range on the 1st form but little damage. And yes Verac hits through prayer and defence and armour Really? I guess I was wrong then. I had never heard or seen anyone hit with mage/range on her first form, no matter how little damage it delt. My mistake, sorry about that. you obviously werent there on the day the KQ came out, were you? 72 construction. Also a proud member of SODB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuyasha0770 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 By the way, Verac only hits through prayer as an NPC, so if you wear it against people who prays, it wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laps9 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I'm pretty sure the KQs prayers act like player against player prayers meaning that they just halve your atack, or whatever the percentage is and the KQ has high defence anyway so yeah. put him in jail Then i'll just wait for him to drop the e-soap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow93 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 awhile ago i've seen a video of some people killing the queen with whip, one guy was using veracs and the guy with whip could hit 20+ or something :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokerJedi Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 i cant WAIT to try out some of the new bow !!!! but where are all the ppl who were saying that this udate would be useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Jeez, no need to hammer me about it, it was just a simple mistake. I already admitted I was wring, so why just leave it at that. And no, I was not there the day it was realeased, or if I was, I was ftp at the time. Get over it people :x "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach312 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 By the way, Verac only hits through prayer as an NPC, so if you wear it against people who prays, it wouldn't work. I have never seen someone more oblivious/uninformed/ignorant/stupid.... :wall: Mugutu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatleaf Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 They wouldn't be effective, the special happens like 1/30 shots, not to mention the bow is incredibly slow and innacurate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iv_Green_vI Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 hmmm, i bet it would own on the second form tho :S :ohnoes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudos6969 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 the kq prayer works like prayer does with p vs p no rpayer u might hit 43 but with pray on you might only hit 25 its normaly possible to hit abit more than 50% of your max when your opponent has pray on. pray means that you only hit them 50% of the time but it also seems to have a damge reduction unmentioned with should be like 40% less than normal or whatever. and thats how the kq works you can hit her as if she was an npc, u cant hit your max hit with mage and range on kq but u hit the same maxes as if she wer a player... its not armour it really is prayer just not like a prayer on a normal npc GWD solo drops: Armadyl Hilt sold at 63.5m - (More to come hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggy08755 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Jagex them selves said KQ's icon means strong defence against that form of attack When praying against an npc you get 100% protection except verac, 40% i think against other players :) well today at 11:30 am 14 years ago i was born.. wo0t!!!At 11:30 you should start holding your head underwater wo0t!!!Stop acting such a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin47 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 No, the kq "prayers" just indicate high def against that. Can you back that up with any facts? It is a fact that the Veracs set hits through prayer as well as ignoring def. The Kq is seen to be using prayer, this is obvious as the symbols are above her head. Prayers may count as def, but they are still a 100% protection. Last Time me and Leester's Went to KQ He Used Black Mask on First Form, Didn't Switch and hit a 20+ WITHOUT FULL VERACS ON. That is proof that the prayers are just armour. Thats because you can only kill the first form with melee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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