Yes, I am a U.S. Citizen, but seriously, what happened to our goverment? I'll start with our president..

 

 

 

George W. Bush:

 

 

 

Iraq? This is such a scam is hysterical. He goes over there and LIES about why he's going there. He says that he's going there to take out Sadam, and restore order. That's been done for over a year. Now, it's all his own wealth. His wealth will result in OIL. He is there to take OIL! Why, he wants to be wealthier. He's the president...

 

 

 

Also, I will get the link from my dad that was NOT EDITED with Bush sitting at a table, and at his side of the table, was an opened beer. The big deal you ask? Bush isn't supposed to drink. Figures. Link will be coming shortly.

 

 

 

EDIT: Here is the picture.

 

 

 

And the recently famous quote in England, "Yo Blair!"

 

Aren't president's supposed to talk formally? -.-

 

 

 

Also, Hillary Clinton and John McCain had a Vodka drinking contest.. Don't ask.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want anything to say / add feel free. Yes, I am an American child, but currently, I'm not sure if I'm happy about it. Please, if you took the time to read it, please comment. I want to hear your opinions!

 

 

 

~Poker

Yes, the American Government is horrible. However the petty social points you're referring to are nothing compared to the other atrocities being commited not only by Bush, but also by Congress, The House, various state governments.

 

 

 

The whole system is currently just short of FUBAR. If you're goint to hate it, hate it for the right reasons.

Makes me glad i live in England. :P

 

btw, it was "Yo Blair, Hows it goin'?" instead of "Hi Tony, how are you?"

 

:wall:

he isnt allowed to drink? why not?

 

 

 

ulysseus s grant got like 100k cigars at the end of the war lol

he isnt allowed to drink? why not?

 

 

 

Because he's on the wagon.

 

 

 

Also, Tony Blair isn't our president; he's the Prime Minister.

Yes, I am a U.S. Citizen, but seriously, what happened to our goverment? I'll start with our president..

 

 

 

George W. Bush:

 

 

 

Iraq? This is such a scam is hysterical. He goes over there and LIES about why he's going there. He says that he's going there to take out Sadam, and restore order. That's been done for over a year. Now, it's all his own wealth. His wealth will result in OIL. He is there to take OIL! Why, he wants to be wealthier. He's the president...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, the one who pulled this scam was not the United States. Saddam managed to pull off a good enough scam that we actually believed he had WMD's. He didn't get the result he wanted to get by threatening us with his imaginary weapons, but nevertheless the hoax was not pulled by us, it was pulled by Saddam. Also, in case you were wondering, order has not been restored. that much is very obvious from the sectarian killing almost every day. As far as the oil, the last time I checked, he is not on the board of any oil firm, in the U.S. or abroad. You probably are just parroting what you've heard from some other President Bush-hater, as there is not reason to believe he is getting wealthier from oil.

 

 

 

 

Also, I will get the link from my dad that was NOT EDITED with Bush sitting at a table, and at his side of the table, was an opened beer. The big deal you ask? Bush isn't supposed to drink. Figures. Link will be coming shortly.

 

 

 

 

So, a link from The National Enquirer? I can't wait. (besides, since when has he said he doesn't drink?)

 

 

 

 

And the recently famous quote in England, "Yo Blair!"

 

Aren't president's supposed to talk formally?

 

 

 

 

Can you imagine talking formally for your whole life? This was not a news conference, it was a meeting between two friends. I seriously doubt that Prime Minister Blair will now declare war on the U.S. because President Bush talked to him as one of "the guys."

 

 

 

 

Also, Hillary Clinton and John McCain had a Vodka drinking contest.. Don't ask.

 

 

 

 

And President Bush can't drink beer? :roll: Anyway, the thought of Hillary Clinton drunk is extremely disturbing :ohnoes: [/b]

I would really like to see that link with Bush.. get it ASAP.

 

 

 

My opinion - I think the government now is too secret. Everything is shut doors from the public, which is why people question the effectiveness of the government. Thats my take.

 

 

 

Actually, the one who pulled this scam was not the U.S. Saddam managed to pull off a good enough scam that we actually believed he had WMD's. He didn't get the result he wanted to get by threatening us with his imaginary weapons, but nevertheless the hoax was not pulled by us, it was pulled by Saddam. Also, in case you were wondering, order has not been restored. that much is very obvious from the sectarian killing almost every day. As far as the oil, the last time I checked, he is not on the board of any oill firm, in the U.S. or abroad. You probably are just parroting what you've heard from some other President Bush-hater, as there is not reason to believe he is getting wealthier from oil.

 

 

 

To my knowledge through Iraq's whom have immigrated from their home state is this: There is no peace because of the US occupation. No one wants them there, so they fight back trying to push them out. Under Saddams ruling the 2 Islamic groups wouldnt dare fight against eachother as they are now, because Saddam would kill them. Now that there is no Saddam, they fight the US troops and eachother.

 

 

 

I also challange you to find any information on the Oil companies and reserves post Iraqi invasion. I tried looking for something myself - came out empty handed. Im not suggesting that Bush is stealing oil, but it is kinda sketchy when you dont hear from them after the invasion. Also, Bush doesn't necessarily have to be on any board to be running the show, he could do it from the shadows. I think Bush needs the money, and that Iraq was an easy target after finding out there are no WMD's.

you said Bush went ove rthere for oil, and you're rihgt, but your leaving out one major thing. Almost everything that has to do with terrorism, Bush, Government, international trading, and even elections these days in the US have to do with Oil, we're too dependant. Heres a quote:

 

Understanding Oil

 

By Serj Tankian

 

9/13/2001

 

 

 

The brutal attacks/bombings this week in New York, and Washington D.C., along with threats of attacks there and elsewhere in the country have changed our times forever. While the mass media concentrates on the details of the destruction, and the blanketed words of politicians, I will attempt to understand and explain the events from the fence. BOMBING AND BEING BOMBED ARE THE SAME THINGS ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE FENCE.

 

 

 

Terror is not a spontaneous human action without credence. People just dont hijack planes and commit harikari (suicide) without any weight of thought to the action. No one in the media seems to ask WHY DID THESE PEOPLE DO THIS HORRIFIC ACT OF VIOLENCE AND DESTRUCTION?

 

 

 

To be able to understand the answer to this, we must first look at our U.S. Mideast Policy. During most of the 20th century, U.S. businesses have worked on attaining oil rights and concessions from countries in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. After WWI, secret back door deals by our State Dept. yielded oil rights from then defeated Turkey to fields in what is now Iraq and Saudi Arabia, in return for looking the other way at a crime against humanity, the Genocide of the Armenians by the Turks. Oil profits have been the motivating factors behind many attempts at counterinsurgency of democratic regimes by the CIA and the U.S in the Middle East (such as Iran in the 1950s, where the Shah replaced the Prime Minister who refused to give up oil rights to the U.S., and since the people couldnt deal with the Shah, an extremist government headed by the Ayatollah Khomeini ultimately prevailed). During the Iran-Iraq war, America supplied both sides with weapons and advice. These are not the actions of a rich superpower wanting peace. Lets not forget that Saddam Hussein, before being Americas vision of the Anti-Christ, was a close ally of the U.S., and the CIA. So what was the firm belief system of consecutive American administrations that caused all this to occur ? PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WILL LEAD TO HIGHER OIL AND GASOLINE PRICES. Lets not also forget the power of the Arms industry, disguised as defense, that still sells billions of dollars of weapons to the area. Therefore it has not been in the short-term economic interest of the U.S. to foster Peace in the Middle East. Using the above reasoning, the U.S. has encouraged extremist governments, toppled democracies, as in the case of Iran to replace it with a monarchy, rigged elections, and many more unspeakable political crimes for U.S. businesses abroad. Lets not also forget the Red Scare. During the war between the then Soviet Union and Afghanistan, the U.S. armed and supported the Taliban, a fundamentalist Muslim organization, and allowed them to export opium and heroin out of their country to pay for those weapons. Therefore the Taliban rose to power and control with the help of the U.S.A. Today, the bombing of Iraq still continues, no longer covered by the media, the economic embargo still remains, killing millions of children, and recently, while the world and the U.N. General Assembly have cried out to bring in peacekeeping forces into Israel and Palestine, to end the escalated war and recent assassinations, the U.S. has vetoed the rest of the Security Council and has halted the possibility of peace, there, in the most volatile place in the world.

 

 

 

People in Serbia, Lebanon, Iraq, Sudan, and Afghanistan to name a few have seen bombs fall, not always at military targets and kill innocent civilians, as the scene in New York city yesterday. The wars waged by our government in our names has landed smack in the middle of our living room. The half hour of destruction closed down all world financial markets, struck the central headquarters of our military, and had our leaders running into bunkers, and our citizens into fear and frenzy. What scares me more than what has occurred is what our reactions to the occurrences may cause. President Bush belongs to a long generation of Republican Presidents who love war economies. The media has only concentrated on the bombings, if you will, and what type of retaliations are looming for the perpetrators. What everyone fails to realize is that the bombings are a reaction to existing injustices around the world, generally unseen to most Americans. To react to a reaction would be to further sponsor the reaction. In other words, my belief is that the terror will multiply if concrete steps are not taken to sponsor peace in the middle east, NOW. This does not mean that we should not find the guilty party(s), Bin Laden, or whoever they may be, and not try them. Put simply, as long as a major injustice remains, violence precipitates to the surface of life.

 

 

 

Native American folklore, the Bible, Nostradamus, and many other major religious beliefs point to this era with the visuals of yesterdays disasters, and conditions of ecological disasters we experience daily in our lives today. War, rumors of war, famine, long burning fires, etc., are at our doorstep. We can prevail over this possible vision with the power of the human spirit, understanding, compassion, and peace. ITS TIME TO PUT OUR NEEDS FOR SECURITY AND SURVIVAL, ACHIEVED ONLY THROUGH PEACE, ABOVE AND BEYOND PROFITS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES.

 

 

 

SOLUTION:

 

 

 

The U.S. should stop sidestepping the U.N. Security Council, and allow U.N. Peacekeeping troops and missions to the Middle East. Stop the violence first.

 

 

 

Stop the bombing and patrol of Iraq.

 

 

 

With todays gains in the use of alternative fuels, develop them to full usage with autos and other utilities, to make the country less dependant on an already depleting natural reserve, oil.

 

 

 

By initiating peace, we would have already shaken the foundations of support for Bin Laden, and/or all those that sponsor activities like those we saw yesterday, and break the stronghold of extremists on the world of Islam. On the other hand, if we carry out bombings on Afghanistan or elsewhere to appease public demand, and very likely kill innocent civilians along the way, wed be creating many more martyrs going to their deaths in retaliation against the retaliation. As shown from yesterdays events, you cannot stop a person whos ready to die.

 

 

 

P.S. To add a lil humor, i drive a hybrid car, it runs on gasoline and the BLOOD OF MY ENEMIES!

It's not about Bush making money, it's about those who control Bush who are making the money. Although I'm sure he's making some it's not enough to justify a War (two actually).

 

 

 

Fighting terrorism to create terrorists, to fight another day.

Also, Tony Blair isn't our president; he's the Prime Minister.

 

You reckon?

Conspiracy theories :uhh:

And President Bush can't drink beer? :roll:

 

 

 

Recovering alcoholics aren't meant to...

Conspiracy theories :uhh:

 

 

 

..are sometimes true.

 

To my knowledge through Iraq's whom have immigrated from their home state is this: There is no peace because of the US occupation. No one wants them there, so they fight back trying to push them out. Under Saddams ruling the 2 Islamic groups wouldnt dare fight against eachother as they are now, because Saddam would kill them. Now that there is no Saddam, they fight the US troops and eachother.

 

 

 

I am aware that the Sunni and the Shiites hate each other and kill each other for any little thing. However, that said, what they need to become a successful people right now is not anarchy, which is what would happen if we just left. What they need is a strong police force(This is what Saddam had). Currently we are training their own people to become that police force. That is why we will not leave. Look at what is happening in Lebanon right now because they can not control their populace. They are in the midst of anarchy because a small group angered a more powerful nation, and they could not stop that group. Controlling your populace is necessary to sovreignity. There is no way around that.

 

 

 

 

I also challange you to find any information on the Oil companies and reserves post Iraqi invasion. I tried looking for something myself - came out empty handed. Im not suggesting that Bush is stealing oil, but it is kinda sketchy when you dont hear from them after the invasion. Also, Bush doesn't necessarily have to be on any board to be running the show, he could do it from the shadows. I think Bush needs the money, and that Iraq was an easy target after finding out there are no WMD's.

 

 

 

I don't doubt that President Bush could run a world-wide oil-theft ring. He is at least as capable as Kofi Annan :roll: . But then, Snoop Dog could be a terrorist. Without proof, all you have are conspiracy theories. You need to work on this one, though. First off, look up the president's salary. He does not need money. Second, if he wanted to get oil from some prosperous, defenseless country, The U.S. would have attacked Kuwait, as Iraq is anything but prosperous and most of the money brought in went into building Saddam's army. Yes, this conspiracy theory needs work.

Not another "Bash the American Government" topic. These are really quite annoying. It all comes down to the opinions and beliefs of the person. Many people in America and around the world are happy with our government and many are not. I really have no opinion. I live my life just fine. Although, I wish gas prices would go down...

Well, here is the picture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Bush's side of the table, there is an open beer bottle. Last time I checked, recovering alcoholics weren't supposed to drink. Although, I suppose that might be the reason why he has a bad hair day. Hang over?

The pic looks like if Bliar is saying "Um, you sit here" and Bush "Oh... I knew that." :lol:

 

 

 

America's government is screwed. Its more for money.

The pic looks like if Bliar is saying "Um, you sit here" and Bush "Oh... I knew that." :lol:

 

 

 

America's government is screwed. Its more for money.

 

 

 

thats not blair man...

 

 

 

thats Putin..

The pic looks like if Bliar is saying "Um, you sit here" and Bush "Oh... I knew that." :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

Hah! I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.

 

 

 

-1 for Bush :

The pic looks like if Bliar is saying "Um, you sit here" and Bush "Oh... I knew that." :lol:

 

 

 

America's government is screwed. Its more for money.

 

 

 

thats not blair man...

 

 

 

thats Putin..

 

I dont know people #-o

The pic looks like if Bliar is saying "Um, you sit here" and Bush "Oh... I knew that." :lol:

 

 

 

America's government is screwed. Its more for money.

 

 

 

thats not blair man...

 

 

 

thats Putin..

 

I dont know people #-o

 

 

 

Have to love our education system, aswell.

Blair and Putin are totally the same anyway.

Bush would profit form gas comin into america.http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html on the right side under carer and pubic services. Most of the money for his compain came form a oil compainy.

The goverment has come to peeing on enemy soldiers!