Range&Prayer Training: Skogre/Zogre Coffin Guide

[demonicpain]

This is one of the most overlooked and least known ways of training range, and the rewards, if your after prayer exp, are amazing!

 

 

 

OK first of all you need to complete the Zogre Flesh Eater quest, which is easy enough. If you have not yet completed it heres the link to Tip.It's handy dandy quest guide itself http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2quest_id=100

 

 

 

Next you need to make yourself a Compsite ogre bow. To get one have some wolf bones (wolves can be found just south of castle wars, canifis or white wolf mountain) and an achey log (look below on where to find one of these) in your inventory, and cut the log into a bow. Use it with a bow string and there you have it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

NOTE: Bows are tradeable, however the time it would take you to buy one you could have made a few hundred yourself and developed a cure for the common cold.

 

 

 

Once you have your bow you need something to shoot with it. Right, if your looking to buy some of the arrows, your probably going to be there for a while, as I have never seen a seller of them...ever...The ogre Uglug Nar and the range shop in catherby have them, but only stock 0, so it looks like your going to have to make them *GASP* BUT do not fear! The new construction skill has made this much much easier, as people now have a nice little stock of...nails! To make these brutal arrows, you need:

 

 

 

-Nails instead of arrowheads, so buy bronze or iron from the construction marketplace for minimal prices.

 

-Feathers are plain and simple, fletching forum get a load (6-8gpea is the norm nowadays)

 

-Achey shafts. There are 2 ways of getting these, either buy the logs from the ogre trader

 

who is just south of Castle Wars, where you start the Zogre flesh eater quest, he has a stock of 100, so buy, cut, then swap worlds and buy again until you have enough shafts.

 

Alternativly you can cut some trees in the swamp...One thing to note is that the amount of shafts you get per log is random, from 1-6.

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Hammer to force the nails in

 

 

 

Now that you have everything to make brutal arrows just put them together as usual. One more thing to note, each arrow takes 1 shaft, 1 nail and 4 feathers. So for 1k iron brutals you need:

 

 

 

1k iron nails, 1k achey shafts, 4k feather. Not to hard now, is it :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

The brutal arrows can only be used with a compsite ogre bow, and the compsite ogre bow can only be used with brutal arrows. It isn't slow and hits about 3 damage more than the normal arrows of that type. Use your best range armour and whatever else you like, but ONLY the compsite ogre bow will do significant damage, so no melee or mage, as this is a complete waste of time and will take minutes to kill one, plus you run the risk of getting diseased! A ring of wealth also has no effect. If you would like to try melee or mage by my guest, I would recommend however that you paint a wall while your at it and watch it dry(always have some paint left over incase one coat isn't enough)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now you need something to kill. If you head east of where you bought the logs you will come across a tomb with skogres + zogres. At the end there will be a set of stairs leading down into the heart of the tomb. However you don't need to go down there, as just by the stairs are 2-3 enemys ready to be killed. I counted about 10 safe spots just in that one bit of screen.

 

 

 

Now for a bit on the monsters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are lvl 44, but have a massive 72 hp! Thats a simple 288 exp per kill, and you can pick up the brutals. They are not aggresive as long as your combat level is 89, so lower levels will always need a spare relicyms blam just incase. They will never ever hit you damage, but if by some mistake they do hit you there is a small chance you could get diseased, which systematically lowers a random stat (just like poison lowers your health), starting at 10. So to be on the safe side take 3 relicyms balm with you, 3 doses will fully cure you of the disease.

 

To save time making the relicyms balm potion (which is very tedious due to the two herbs snake weed & rogues purse not being readily available), simply use a relicyms balm on Uglug Nar, the trader, and he will use his secret army of ogre factory workers to mass produce them and have a 100 stock in his store! Simple!

 

 

 

These monsters only drop 2 things, and it is every kill. They are skogre/zogre bones (22.5 exp each) and an ogre coffin key . Once you have a full invntory of coffin keys its time to reap the benefits (that is if the better than big bone exp + easy range exp wasn't good enough). You will see there are loads of coffins around you, click the coffin and you will use 1 key to open it. You can use any coffin you like, they all have exactly the same everything. What you get from this is random, and varies from nothing, skogre/zogre bones, low level daggers + pickaxes, tinderboxes and level 1 clues and a load of other junk for your enjoyment (I got a nice little collection of 500 black nails \ )

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, the main thing you want are the 3 unique bones only obtainable from the coffins. They are:

 

 

 

Fayrg - 84 exp each - 336 exp at ecto

 

Raurg - 96 exp each - 384 exp at ecto

 

Ourg - 140 exp each - 560 exp at ecto

 

 

 

And if like me, your to lazy to go collect the slime, grind the bones blah blah zZzZzZzZzZzZ...huh...oh yeah, if your lazy like me why not use POH to your advantage! With a guilded alter and 2 burners lit you get 3 and a half times more exp, so not as much as ecto, but much much faster! For more information on the the ectofunctus and guilded alter, please refer to the prayer guide on the tip it home page.

 

 

 

Fayrg - 294 exp at alter

 

Raurg - 336 exp at alter

 

Ourg - 490exp at alter

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now compare them to dragon bones:

 

 

 

Dragon - 72 exp each - 252 - 288 exp at ecto

 

 

 

This is obviously an amazing way to get prayer experience, ranged experience and if you don't want to ecto the bones, they sell for a very tidy price. The skogre bones will also add up after a while ;)

 

 

 

*** SUICIDE WATCH ***

 

 

 

SEVERE HEALTH WARNING: Picklocking ogre coffins may make many of you resort to severe bodily harm and the insertion of ones fist/foot/head/hammer into your screen with great force - I recommend you go to ardougne and try some cake, its lovely! Your sanity is not worth a bone! :wall: :wall: :wall:

 

 

 

END OF MESSGE______

 

 

 

If you have already been down there, you may have noticed another option, picklock. This gives the same rewards as using keys, but is a lot harder and risky than obtaining a key. To do this simply right click and choose picklock coffin. Now the chances are that you will fumble with the lock and your thieving level will lower, or you will release a gas spore and become diseased. Thats all there is to it to be honest, its a long, tedious, level lowering, gas inhaling, mind numbingly lame way of getting the bones. And if your doing it for training I would advise you invest in a brain cell, as the other one seems to be lonely :

 

 

 

NOTE: Burying skogre or zogre bones can sometimes spawn a skogre within a few squares of you, so when burying make sure you have your back to a wall in a safe spot :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have never written a guide of any kind before, so forgive me if this is a bit dodgy...

 

 

 

If you have any suggestions on layout, wording, pictures, information you wish me to add I will happily oblige!

 

 

 

Thanks for readin my guide! If you would please take a bit more time to post a comment, I will take some time to reply back :)

[NeCroLoGiCa]

cool guide,didn't even know that this existed :XD:

[demonicpain]

This is one of the most overlooked and least known ways of training range

 

 

 

Hence why thats added, lol

[gunshafted]

this is a really good guide, but unfortunately it is really rare to get the good bones from chests, you might want to add that you dont have to have the keys to open the coffins, you can just pick them.

 

 

 

jagex should really make zogres better

 

 

 

oh, and the zogres only rise from the grave if you are still in the zogre zone

[demonicpain]

I didn't find them very rare at all. I have 27 fayrg, 23 raryg and 6 ourg bones in 2 hours...

[0Firzen0]

very nice guide. i love these, great range xp and great prayer xp as well. its very fun down there, and commonly overlooked

[demonicpain]

Its been overlooked since its release...

[Fire_Slyzer]

i have just done zogre flesh eaters...

 

:D

 

 

 

Good guide

[LucaFalcon]

Very Nice Guide. I like the mention of the Prayer XP because that is commonly overlooked. Oh and the last post was SPAM.

[demonicpain]

It was, but it was getting very low and I had nothing to reply to so I did what I do on rs forums, but it seems I need a new spam/bump tactic here :P

[Triquos]

nice! :thumbsup:

 

 

 

I knew the bones 0wnd but didn't know how to get them easily, ty much for this! i'm adding it to my favourites right now :P

[Triquos]

omg tried it today, and i got the leo event and got the zombie dance emote! ty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anti]

Nicely written guide. Good job.

[bomber375]

love the guide, but if only there were an easier way to make those dumb balm things, they can take forever! :x

[demonicpain]

Oh no no no no!!!! Don't make them! What you do is use one with the ogre that sells the achey logs, after that he mass produces them and has a 100 stock in the shop for about 200gp I believe. Guess I should add that :P

[michiel2]

Good guide. Should help me for my prayer 61>70 run. :P

[cocacolabottle]

Very nice guide, I never knew about this :shock: Excellently written, and lots of pictures made it good to look at :)

[demonicpain]

Yay \ Glad to please!

[vlad_the_old]

Just a little question - you sure those arrows are non tradeable? If not, is this a recent change?

 

 

 

Reson I ask is, I am pretty sure I was given a whole load of black brutals a while back when I had to go down there for some reason. (I may be wrong and it may just have been black nails - they say the memory is quick to go amongst the old! :lol: )

 

 

 

Dont forget, using an altar in a POH could give you nearly as many exp as the ecto, for far less work

 

 

 

Anyway, nice little guide.

 

 

 

:-k I need to work on my range - this may have inspired me to pop down there for a bit of training.

[demonicpain]

Well a few months ago when I first started killing them I was 99.99% confident they wern't. So i'm guessing it was a hidden update sometime ago if they are now.

 

 

 

Or maybe I got it wrong, but its something I'm going to go and check after this barrows trip.

 

 

 

P.S - Reading this nearly killed me, hitting dharok with staff isn't very effective :P

 

 

 

Edit: And as for the POH alter, I am an anti-house person, but I'm sure peole will be aware they can use it to. I only used ecto as an example because it was the best way of showing how good the exp is, because it is the highest amount of exp available :P And as Tesco would say, every little helps!

 

 

 

Edit2: Yep your right, they are infact tradeable! However I havn't seen a seller of them so its still probably best making them. SO either this was a hidden update that sneaked up on me, or I just got it wrong Bet its the second one :P

[Triquos]

bomber, u can buy the potions from uglug nug or woteva the ogre is just outside that place for like 212gp each or sumthing

 

 

 

i dunno if the brutals r tradeable, but u can sell them to the store, and others can buy them so i'm sure they could possibly be tradeable

 

 

 

this guy made me go there and bury the bones and i got the zombie dance avvy \ i always wanted it coz everyone else had it except for me, and it looked so much beta than the dance emote :P

[vlad_the_old]

 

P.S - Reading this nearly killed me, hitting dharok with staff isn't very effective :P

 

 

 

 

:lol: Sorry! Did not mean to disturb your concentration.

 

 

 

I think you will find Hickton in Catherby trades in brutal arrows and composite bows. Never seen any in stock though.

 

 

 

I know what you mean about POHs, not rich enough to afford a nice altar myself - though I do have a few friends who have. (Most of my housebuilding has been subcontracted to Juna)

 

 

 

Tesco's are right about every little helping, but one of the factors you need to consider is time. In the time taken to collect slime, grind bones and pray at the ecto - how many loads of bones could you have buried in a POH located in Yanille?

 

 

 

When writing a guide you need to consider alternative means of achieving an end. Different methods work best for different people. A guide should mention the different methods and allow players to decide which way is best for them.

 

 

 

This is intended as constructive criticism ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ so donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t take it the wrong way. ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s a nice guide, just needs filling out a bit in a few areas. :wink:

[chris1216]

Mmm a couple extra notes-

 

 

 

1) Lockpicking the safes is hard enough to make a lvl 99 thief tear his hair out in frustration- stick with ranging for keys

 

2) Always bury skogre bones right when you get them and don't wait until you have alot and bury them in the row. If you do, there is a chance you'll spawn multiple zogres/skogres who are sitting there waiting for you to run out and collect your brutals/keys, and will likely get a hit on you and poison you.

 

3) Dueling rings ftw

[vlad_the_old]

You can also save up the keys and open the coffins just outside the entrance - no Zogres / Skogres to worry about then. You can also attempt to use your thieving skills on them.

 

 

 

A caution though - if you try lockpicking the coffins outside the entrance and get caught, you get knocked out and wake up in the depths of the dungon.

[demonicpain]

Right, better go about giving it a makeover then. It was after all just the basics with room for improvement, so thank you everyone that have postd suggestions, they will be addd shortly :D