bloodkilla87 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Why videogames could be a powerful tool for educators. by Erik Brudvig September 13, 2006 - The public education system in the United States is failing. To what extent and why is up for debate, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who feels our education system has kept up with the rest of the world technologically. We moved into the Internet Age in the '90s, making computers and electronic entertainment as much a part of our culture as hot dogs and apple pie. Yet if you walk into a typical urban school, you'd be amazed by how many classes are being taught through the old school "chalk and talk" method. Passing notes has been abandoned in favor of text messaging. A quick Internet search has made libraries all but obsolete. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/732/732630p1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. This is your opinion. I think it is like nature and technology. When both are used in the right preportions, the can co-exist. On a side note... my wow membership ran out, and now i cant play wow tonight :-w Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 When I played online games I got fairly good grades (though I was in junior high), but I quit them over the summer to improve my health and look better ;) (for the girls).. Now I spend a ton of time on homework/drivers ed and I've gotten into a lot of online chatting (facebook, aim, ect.) and now I spend way too much time on that. My grades.. As of now I'm all A's/B's (4 classes, 2 a's and 2 b's). I suppose how much time you spend playing games could effect your grades unless you play responsibly and get your school work done. Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. This is your opinion. I think it is like nature and technology. When both are used in the right preportions, the can co-exist. On a side note... my wow membership ran out, and now i cant play wow tonight :-w Thats not my opinion That is a FACT i proved to myself... Yes, they an co-exist for some, but not all. for those who it cant, quitting gaming helps ALOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. This is your opinion. I think it is like nature and technology. When both are used in the right preportions, the can co-exist. On a side note... my wow membership ran out, and now i cant play wow tonight :-w Thats not my opinion That is a FACT i proved to myself... Yes, they an co-exist for some, but not all. for those who it cant, quitting gaming helps ALOT. It largly depends on the person. If you can't find time to put aside (somehow) to do work than video games may not be a good thing. (and TV...sports...ect.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
state_of_mind Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hockey season is starting soon which means my grades will slip... :oops: Any hockey fans out there who wants to chat, just send me a PM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Ive gone in and read the first 1.5 pages. It is a very interesting concept, and realistic in how schools, if given the chance to access games, could infact use these. As an example, in the article, it stated that games like sim city, and civilization are already used, and i can see why. On the other hand, i have no idea how games such as mortol combat, or halo could possibly used in the classroom. It matters on the game/type of game. In the article, it refered to many rpg's and simulation games. These games coult infact be used to help teach students how to read, understand, and plan. I approve of the article. @LP. It is your opinion. But you have based your opinion on a fact, the fact that you did worse, therefore making your opinion valid, but not true in the eyes of all. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Doing things throws be off (sports, extra-curricular, ect ect, getting a job) throw me off track, and make me slip in school, a large part why i dont go out for sports, or get a job. Although this year i plan on doing a couple things in school, that will look good on a college form thingy. But i'll try to manage all of the things and do my best. [/random blabbering] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Ive gone in and read the first 1.5 pages. It is a very interesting concept, and realistic in how schools, if given the chance to access games, could infact use these. As an example, in the article, it stated that games like sim city, and civilization are already used, and i can see why. On the other hand, i have no idea how games such as mortol combat, or halo could possibly used in the classroom. It matters on the game/type of game. In the article, it refered to many rpg's and simulation games. These games coult infact be used to help teach students how to read, understand, and plan. I approve of the article. @LP. It is your opinion. But you have based your opinion on a fact, the fact that you did worse, therefore making your opinion valid, but not true in the eyes of all. I could see how many video games could largly help. I remember reading something by jagex even a while back, about some person who had learned english through the game. Hell, I could even see some kind of class bent on the study of the "world" (and what certain affects bring, such as an influx of money, ect.) using an MMO as part of a lesson. Stuff such as that are still many years away though from any kind of use in the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hell, I could even see some kind of class bent on the study of the "world" (and what certain affects bring, such as an influx of money, ect.) using an MMO as part of a lesson. Stuff such as that are still many years away though from any kind of use in the classroom. Maybe WoW could be used to teach history classes about the world wars :oops: :P Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hell, I could even see some kind of class bent on the study of the "world" (and what certain affects bring, such as an influx of money, ect.) using an MMO as part of a lesson. Stuff such as that are still many years away though from any kind of use in the classroom. Maybe WoW could be used to teach history classes about the world wars :oops: :P I don't know if having two sides rushing at each other at full speed yelling profanities and words such as "newb" in all their leetspeak glory would accuratly decipt the world wars. :lol: Yeah, I'm just poking fun at MMO's in general here btw, not generaly just WoW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 To put it simply: In the last 7 days I have played 46 hours of Battlefield 2. In the last 7 days, I have done about 72 hours worth of uni work in 48 hours. Balance for the win. That's not really the issue though. There is only a select type of games which can be effective in a learning curve, from an Education System point of view. Simulation, RTS and RPG is probably the bulk of them. And from within them, the number of games is probably small as well. With regulation, some of them are benificial. I know that RTS does enhance creative thinking ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 To put it simply: In the last 7 days I have played 46 hours of Battlefield 2. In the last 7 days, I have done about 72 hours worth of uni work in 48 hours. Balance for the win. That's not really the issue though. There is only a select type of games which can be effective in a learning curve, from an Education System point of view. Simulation, RTS and RPG is probably the bulk of them. And from within them, the number of games is probably small as well. With regulation, some of them are benificial. I know that RTS does enhance creative thinking ;) Very much agreed. The nice thing is is that with the increse of technology the more things you can do in said games. For example, take oblivion. You can do some stuff in that game that would not have been dreamed of for a CRPG years ago. As technology improves the better chance games have of being able to teach creative thinking. I can honestly think that within some years (say in another 5-10 years?) video games of some part will be used in the classroom. It's the same thing as TV being used in the classroom right now for educational purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenBru Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. This is your opinion. I think it is like nature and technology. When both are used in the right preportions, the can co-exist. On a side note... my wow membership ran out, and now i cant play wow tonight :-w Thats not my opinion That is a FACT i proved to myself... Yes, they an co-exist for some, but not all. for those who it cant, quitting gaming helps ALOT. THANKYOU! He told me the exact same thing in my thread when I was talking about how using good grammar here can help you remember to use it when you're in school *I have experienced this first hand*, I even said that in my post, and he told me that was only my opinion. I am an Atheist, and I take pride in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. This is your opinion. I think it is like nature and technology. When both are used in the right preportions, the can co-exist. On a side note... my wow membership ran out, and now i cant play wow tonight :-w Thats not my opinion That is a FACT i proved to myself... Yes, they an co-exist for some, but not all. for those who it cant, quitting gaming helps ALOT. THANKYOU! He told me the exact same thing in my thread when I was talking about how using good grammar here can help you remember to use it when you're in school *I have experienced this first hand*, I even said that in my post, and he told me that was only my opinion. Then you can scroll down seeing my side of the argument, saying that it is still only his opinion, which was proved by facts, meaning it is still valid, but may only apply to him. Plus do not cross over posts. What happens on that grammar post, stays on it, or i will get an ADMIN. @Nadril: actually i should of reworded that. The whole Warcraft series would be a good idea for teaching about the world wars, seeing as there is a whole story behind it all. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovUSA Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. Thats wrong, may be its for you but not for everybody. I personaly played counter-strike after school, never did my homework at home but i did it in my first period, and I graduated high school with 3.0, missing pretty much half of my senior year, i only needed 2 credits my senior year. Ukrainians are smart :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 heh, Lionheart i'd thing the Age of empires series would be perfect for that. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 something kind of related but not: at my local community college we dont have books in our library. yes, we have a library, just no books in it. instead there are about 40 computers, with access to every book you would ever need for doing school work. there isnt all that much fiction, but some. and it also has access to many, many newspapers and magazines. i guess this has nothing to do with video games, but it does have to do with technology in the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Libraries wont die until: 1.) professors stop asking students to choose materials directly from books 2.) we get perfectly seemless, "go anywhere, use anytime" internet connections 3.) writers use computers entirely and ditch paper 4.) copyright and distribution laws are abandoned 5.) people finally finish uploading trillions, actaully, COUNTLESS pages of text into the internet 6.) and lastly, we run out of trees and paper... :-$ The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadfdfd Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 so what's gunna happen? You quit Video Games and go to TV? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Putter Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. We'll see. I'm going a semmester without gaming; the first....ever. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Video games + School = Bad Grades... i have first hand account of that... as soon as you quit its an instant boost in grades. We'll see. I'm going a semmester without gaming; the first....ever. We'll see. My school's dorm ethernet connection is firewalled... It even allow me to play RS lol... I literally have no choice but to quit gaming for a while. :lol: The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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