November 20, 200619 yr I personally think the SAT/ACT is a terrible test and system of judgement. Grades, awards, programs, those are all better. I hope there is no such thing by the time I graduate. Which won't be true, because that's only in 2 years. Are you kidding me? Between two different schools all of those will differ *greatly* and the SAT/ACT is the best interschool measure, really ;) I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam.
November 20, 200619 yr do you think the acts were easyier? I took them and I'm not to proud of my score. The ACT was really easy for me, the SAT was just long. BTW, Viktor, what's the Cyrillic writing in your sig? I can't identify it as any type of Russian. the russians are the best! Hands down!
November 20, 200619 yr Most schools count the SAT out of 1600 as people have said because the Writing section hasn't been tested enough to be proven legit. I got a 1220 then a 1260 on my SATs(550 reading both, 670/710 Math respectively) I wanted the 700 on my Math since the first time I took the test I had about 5 math answers in the end of a reading section :-w 1537 isn't a real score
November 20, 200619 yr I just had a test to get into a high school a couple weeks ago. I did awesome in math..not so hot in Reading Comprehension though. Haven't gotten the scores back though. :P It was a 3 hour test. They gave us like hardly any time to do any of the sections. :(
November 20, 200619 yr I personally think the SAT/ACT is a terrible test and system of judgement. Grades, awards, programs, those are all better. I hope there is no such thing by the time I graduate. Which won't be true, because that's only in 2 years. Thats like when people who are too lazy to try to get good grades pull the whole "grades dont really tell you how smart you are, blah blah" card. Gamertag: King Arizona
November 20, 200619 yr I personally think the SAT/ACT is a terrible test and system of judgement. Grades, awards, programs, those are all better. I hope there is no such thing by the time I graduate. Which won't be true, because that's only in 2 years. Thats like when people who are too lazy to try to get good grades pull the whole "grades dont really tell you how smart you are, blah blah" card. To be fair, I've met quite a few people who received very good grades and had the judgment and reasoning of two short planks. By definition, standardised testing rewards rote learning, which in itself isn't indicative of intelligence, but memory. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers
November 20, 200619 yr They gave us like hardly any time to do any of the sections. They always give you plenty of time. It's just that you have to learn to spend that time wisely. The Best Free Online Game Ever!
November 21, 200619 yr took my PSAT on the 18th. Easy as hell because there wasn't a writing section. However, the current SAT is out of 2400. There used to be a Subject Test called SAT II Writing but they got rid of it, instead, an essay section was added to the SAT I because many universities wanted some kind of writing ability portrayed on this "standardized exam". The ACT, on the other hand, gives you a choice regarding essay writing. If you're going to some cheap community college, you probably don't need an essay. If you're going to Harvard, you obviously will need one... I believe there's an extra fee for the essay section on ACT though. Head Coach of the G!X Black Scrim Team 2007---Wolfenstein Enemy Territory Internationals---
November 21, 200619 yr Just curious - I live in Australia so I'm unfamiliar with the way things are run in America, but wouldn't essay writing fall under English? Or doesn't the English course have essays as one of its requisites? I'm in Year 12 now [the last year of high school, meaning I'm essentially doing the HSC now] and in English, the ability to write essays is one of the most integral skills in the course. .
November 21, 200619 yr Just curious - I live in Australia so I'm unfamiliar with the way things are run in America, but wouldn't essay writing fall under English? Or doesn't the English course have essays as one of its requisites? I'm in Year 12 now [the last year of high school, meaning I'm essentially doing the HSC now] and in English, the ability to write essays is one of the most integral skills in the course. It's reading comprehension, math, and writing. The SATs measures how well you will do in college, not what you have already learned.
November 21, 200619 yr SAT scores are only in intervals of 10, a 1537 isn't real... So the creator of the thread was lying through his teeth?
November 21, 200619 yr Just curious - I live in Australia so I'm unfamiliar with the way things are run in America, but wouldn't essay writing fall under English? Or doesn't the English course have essays as one of its requisites? I'm in Year 12 now [the last year of high school, meaning I'm essentially doing the HSC now] and in English, the ability to write essays is one of the most integral skills in the course. It's reading comprehension, math, and writing. The SATs measures how well you will do in college, not what you have already learned. There's also grammar (that's part of writing maybe? I not sure) Head Coach of the G!X Black Scrim Team 2007---Wolfenstein Enemy Territory Internationals---
November 21, 200619 yr Just curious - I live in Australia so I'm unfamiliar with the way things are run in America, but wouldn't essay writing fall under English? Or doesn't the English course have essays as one of its requisites? I'm in Year 12 now [the last year of high school, meaning I'm essentially doing the HSC now] and in English, the ability to write essays is one of the most integral skills in the course. Well from what I've heard, the SATs are far simpler than the HSC. I finished my HSCs earlier this month, and they were fine yet nasty. You'll have fun for a whole year. Lots of fun. There's something about thirteen hours' worth of essay-writing that's just ever so appealing. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers
November 21, 200619 yr It's reading comprehension, math, and writing. The SATs measures how well you will do in college, not what you have already learned. Sorry, but I just find that sentence slightly paradoxical. Isn't what you learn in college based on the foundations of what you have learned in high school? Otherwise, what's the point of going to high school? Under that note, shouldn't the SAT [if its purpose is to measure how well you'll do in college] measure how well you can do what you've learnt in high school as well? Maths for example - the SAT tests that, and it's something you learn in high school, ergo the SAT measures what you have already learned to an extent as well. .
November 21, 200619 yr Theres no better way than standardized tests because theres so many people to weed out. Getting into college isn't the hard part, its paying for it that is hard. Except if you want to go to a ivy, then bleh.
November 21, 200619 yr To be fair, I've met quite a few people who received very good grades and had the judgment and reasoning of two short planks. By definition, standardised testing rewards rote learning, which in itself isn't indicative of intelligence, but memory.I'll also throw in a line here and say that I know some brilliant people who are essentially border-line failing some subjects at university. Also, I'm not a fan of closed-book exams. They reward memory and not application of what a person knows. I've met people who could give you text-book definitions of almost any IT related term, but have bugger all ability to apply anything they know in real-world situations and were incapable of explaining any of it to you at all. IT was just memorized and they had no further understanding of it. The ONLY subject I have ever done that is outside that norm was an Information SYstems course, where there was one essay (30%) and an open-book exam, where you had 3 hours to get about 5 hours of application of knowledge. Happily enough, the text-book-definition kids usually struggled because they lacked the understanding to effectively apply what they had memorized :P
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