RuneScape too commercialized nowadays?

[ixfd64]

Note: This is not indended to start a pointless f2p v. p2p flame war.

 

 

 

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Don't get me wrong, Jagex is a game company. As a company, the primary function of Jagex is to make money. However, does anyone else get the feeling that money is all that Jagex cares about nowadays?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex has stated that members are supposed to get very godo customer support. Yet, some members with good reputations across the RS community have been falsely banned, and all they get is an automated response on their appeal. I feel that Jagex's message is "We don't care about your problems. As long as we get your money, you're expendable."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's a very similar thing on message boards. The rules say that you may not discuss other online games, and you may not say that other games are better than RS. True, the official forums are privately-owned forums, and Jagex has every right to do what they wish. However, in prohibiting these discussions for fear of competition, Jagex is acting very narrow-minded. Jagex is implying that those who think there are better games than RuneScape should be lined up against the wall and shot. Face it Jagex, there will always be people who think otherwise. By comparision, many forums of other companies, gaming or not (3D Realms, Wicked Lasers, etc) allow the discussion of competitors' products.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the old days, the forums and polls were free. After Jagex removed them, they were put back, but for members only. I can understand this for the message boards - members are usually more serious players, and are less likely to post abusively. Jagex claims that the polls are members' only is to prevent people from ballot stuffing. If Jagex truly wants to prevent that, they would use level requirement s instead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finally, Jagex has said that the profit from members would go back into improving RuneScape. From the beginning of 2001 to early 2002 (about a year), Jagex has released 17 quests, all before members. But now, it's 2006, and Jagex has many times more staff than it did in 2001, and you'd expect the rate of total updates to go up significantly. I don't see it. In those 6 years, we got a bit over 100 quests. It's fairly consistent with 6 * 17 = 102, which is pretty close. You'd expect much more, now that Jagex is much bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any thoughts?

[Kilo]

Jagex has stated that members are supposed to get very godo customer support. Yet, some members with good reputations across the RS community have been falsely banned, and all they get is an automated response on their appeal. I feel that Jagex's message is "We don't care about your problems. As long as we get your money, you're expendable."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know about that most of the topics that I've seen here about wrongful bannings are rare or from people who have a post count of only

 

 

 

10 or below. So I think most of the wrongful bannings aren't true and the ones that are, are mostly rare and most of the time get appeals. I suppose that 1% of people does deserve justice I suppose.

[inner_breed]

Note, this is going to be a cynical post, and very opinionated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex are lazy, and need to make money. Due to advertisments on websites such as miniclip, more and more people have got into runescape. What started as a small project by the Gowers has turned in to a multi multi million dollar business, with players all over the world. Although this is all very good, with the growing amount of players creates a bigger demand for regulation and customer service. Jagex staff are too limited, and they are cut too thin. They don't have enough people to be full time moderators, and they do not have enough people to control the players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because of this, we see the birth of ingame player moderators. P-mods are players who have the ability to slap people with a mute, and eventually give them black marks. The choosing process of P-Mods is quite stupid (how could jagex choose the right people when really no one fits the chriterea(sp.?)?)Jagex make random level 60s p mods purely on the basis that they have reported people successfully in the past (any f2per can report someone, and it isn't that difficult to find someone breaking the rules) and for the basis that they havn't been reported. This could mean a few things. One, they are inactive, and like to use the report button (effectivly for ever bit of "cheating" they see in the game). two, that the most likely aren't very talkative, and probably hold close to themselves in game, and post occasionally on runescape forums. P-Mods could theoretically be any 10 year old idiot (no offense to 10 year olds, but most of you are idiots until you are older) or any trigger crazy loser.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P mods aren't a solution to the problems inside runescape. They just create more. They cause tons and tons of people to be falsely accused on the stupidest grounds like calling someone a Noobie, or calling someone stupid. They flood the real customer service people with too many complaints (and judging by the grammer in some of their responces, they aren't very intelligent either.) and also create an overload on muted people. Jagex doesn't have the time to fix the problem they created, and hasn't even begun to remove player mods. They think that a P-Mod is a good person to moderate the game, but really that is giving the control of the game to any idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally know of a player mod who shares accounts, has drop traded, and once asked me to play on my account because he had still not ever been p2p, and wanted to try it out. In fact, he ended up buying p2p off a friend of mine and his, and became a member after that (cost him 2mil for the 1 month.) Great way to reward your "best behaved" players jagex. White Crowns own!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dooper out.

[Lord_Gromit]

 

 

 

Finally, Jagex has said that the profit from members would go back into improving RuneScape. From the beginning of 2001 to early 2002 (about a year), Jagex has released 17 quests, all before members. But now, it's 2006, and Jagex has many times more staff than it did in 2001, and you'd expect the rate of total updates to go up significantly. I don't see it. In those 6 years, we got a bit over 100 quests. It's fairly consistent with 6 * 17 = 102, which is pretty close. You'd expect much more, now that Jagex is much bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its quality, not quantity. Would you rather they release about twnety times as many Cook's Assistant type quests and no Desert Treasures or Recipes?

[malo2]

I disagree with almost everything you said, but I really dont feel like going over all of it because its pretty obvious. I hope someone else will cover for me..

[Erk02]

"We don't care about your problems. As long as we get your money, you're expendable."

Why isn't that an acceptable moto? We're seriously worth $5 a month to them. Sure some people may be able to influence some mroe into membership. Not hundreds though. And as for customer service, this game, when f2p and p2p are combined, has more players that World Of Warcraft. That's like >10000000 players (or accounts) That's probably like 10000 players to each employee. Think.

[MeLikesPizza]

From the beginning of 2001 to early 2002 (about a year), Jagex has released 17 quests, all before members. But now, it's 2006, and Jagex has many times more staff than it did in 2001, and you'd expect the rate of total updates to go up significantly. I don't see it. In those 6 years, we got a bit over 100 quests. It's fairly consistent with 6 * 17 = 102, which is pretty close. You'd expect much more, now that Jagex is much bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex is maybe much bigger, but there are many more players too!

[007007008plp]

 

 

 

Finally, Jagex has said that the profit from members would go back into improving RuneScape. From the beginning of 2001 to early 2002 (about a year), Jagex has released 17 quests, all before members. But now, it's 2006, and Jagex has many times more staff than it did in 2001, and you'd expect the rate of total updates to go up significantly. I don't see it. In those 6 years, we got a bit over 100 quests. It's fairly consistent with 6 * 17 = 102, which is pretty close. You'd expect much more, now that Jagex is much bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, my thoughts are that your last point is 100% BULL.

[cyclonetwist]

 

 

 

Finally, Jagex has said that the profit from members would go back into improving RuneScape. From the beginning of 2001 to early 2002 (about a year), Jagex has released 17 quests, all before members. But now, it's 2006, and Jagex has many times more staff than it did in 2001, and you'd expect the rate of total updates to go up significantly. I don't see it. In those 6 years, we got a bit over 100 quests. It's fairly consistent with 6 * 17 = 102, which is pretty close. You'd expect much more, now that Jagex is much bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quality not quantity. tis what i think

[X_Seismic_X]

 

 

 

Jagex is acting very narrow-minded. Jagex is implying that those who think there are better games than RuneScape should be lined up against the wall and shot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is ridiculous, no sensible company director in the world would allow room for competition to succeed in their own workspace. In making these rules in the forum, Jagex are simply keeping their customers loyal, not to tell people Runescape is better than the other games, but to prevent people unaware of other games from trying them out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finally, Jagex has said that the profit from members would go back into improving RuneScape. ... and you'd expect the rate of total updates to go up significantly. I don't see it. ... You'd expect much more, now that Jagex is much bigger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's only so much you can do with a game, they're still coming up with an update every week, and I don't see how you can complain about that. I doubt you could think of an idea, develop it, and implement the code to be released every single week? Personally I think they're going through their ideas too quickly, and it's simply making the game worse.

[jessy87]

it is man, its corporate conglomorate. runescape is like the tabacco industry, its like hey your 7 year old heres a cartoon camel(god rest your soul joe.) play with him!!!! and then its like as you grow older the camel is a novel idea and means nothing. by this time your hooked bad, like homeless people are hooked on warm clothes. and then as your addiction slowly kills you, you keep playing and take it like a man with the bad updates that arent giving you your fix as you slowly go insane. and then 1 day you snap and kill your self(quit)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[benisfab]

Note, this is going to be a cynical post, and very opinionated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

we see the birth of ingame player moderators. P-mods are players who have the ability to slap people with a mute, and eventually give them black marks. The choosing process of P-Mods is quite stupid (how could jagex choose the right people when really no one fits the chriterea(sp.?)?)Jagex make random level 60s p mods purely on the basis that they have reported people successfully in the past (any f2per can report someone, and it isn't that difficult to find someone breaking the rules) and for the basis that they havn't been reported. This could mean a few things. One, they are inactive, and like to use the report button (effectivly for ever bit of "cheating" they see in the game). two, that the most likely aren't very talkative, and probably hold close to themselves in game, and post occasionally on runescape forums. P-Mods could theoretically be any 10 year old idiot (no offense to 10 year olds, but most of you are idiots until you are older) or any trigger crazy loser.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P mods aren't a solution to the problems inside runescape. They just create more. They cause tons and tons of people to be falsely accused on the stupidest grounds like calling someone a Noobie, or calling someone stupid. They flood the real customer service people with too many complaints (and judging by the grammer in some of their responces, they aren't very intelligent either.) and also create an overload on muted people. Jagex doesn't have the time to fix the problem they created, and hasn't even begun to remove player mods. They think that a P-Mod is a good person to moderate the game, but really that is giving the control of the game to any idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally know of a player mod who shares accounts, has drop traded, and once asked me to play on my account because he had still not ever been p2p, and wanted to try it out. In fact, he ended up buying p2p off a friend of mine and his, and became a member after that (cost him 2mil for the 1 month.) Great way to reward your "best behaved" players jagex. White Crowns own!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dooper out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i agree that there had been a MASSIVE amout of new p-mods recently (me included) Also i have noticed that there are several "low" or "medium" level p-mods been added ( i think i fit in to the category of low - being only lvl 5 myself :wink:) but as p-mods we have strict rules which jagex give us to follow, if we report/mute incorrectly and repeatedly then first we get feedback on this. If we repeatedly incorrectly mute/report we can lose our modship.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for your mod freind, i guess jagex can make mistakes :shock: (don't we all) also i suggest you report him, it's people like that who gives us a bad name . and im a bit fed up of the insults "all mods are noobs, and repeat reporters" etc etc. Most of us are not.