Issues much?

[Ard_Choille]

 

 

i blame that group of people who live on this forum and think theyre better than everyone else

 

 

 

So you're blaming yourself then?

 

 

 

i knew that was coming but i didnt expect it from some kid who is just trying to be funny and has probably never even posted on the same topic as me prior to this one

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's not turn this into a blame-fest. It defeats the purpose of the thread even if you're just trying to be funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Ard

[Guest GhostRanger]

:? I'm very sure most of the religious debates I've seen just end up in someone getting angry because they are not agreed with, and then they go and make sigs that have a negative statement about the person they are angry about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PSAnyone notice no spelling mistakes :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Firefox 2 ftw? :P

[insane]

That is true. Providing a well-reasoned counter is nothing like sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la la la" as a certain someone does.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I knew my name would come up eventually :(

[Evilperson]

:? I'm very sure most of the religious debates I've seen just end up in someone getting angry because they are not agreed with, and then they go and make sigs that have a negative statement about the person they are angry about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PSAnyone notice no spelling mistakes :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But there couldn't be negative statements without positive ones. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways i find ignoring ignorant people helps a lot.

 

 

 

Its the internet. It isnt htat big of a deal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Spread the hate!

[dusqi]

 

 

 

Please Tip.it Off topic. When I first came here, it was an awesome place to be, and thats why I'm still here today. But lately, this play has gone to [cabbage]. Please turn it around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having been reading here for 5 years, and having seen many of these "it used to be awesome" posts - I'll let you in on a secret:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tip.it doesn't change. Only you do.

[Ard_Choille]

Like any forum that opens itself up to general discussion, disagreements abound. It is a known fact that people are more inclined to share their opinion if they have negative feelings. This is true of everything from anonymous comment cards to detailed polling surveys. Why do you think that most forums have "Rant" boards while most, if not none, do NOT have a "kudos" board?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What changes from time to time are the topics and the users involved. If you feel that the argumentation has increased, I'd venture a guess that the topics currently heated up are important to you or you are angry/frustrated with those involved. If someone rubs you the wrong way, just about every thread they post to will be have "issues". If you glaze over an argument between other people, it might just be that the topic is NOT important to you and you don't have any negative opinions of those involved...and so you don't notice or share the level of frustration.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good discussions involve disagreement. There is always a line between arguing over the topic and simply arguing out of dislike for the other person/people involved in the conversation. Keep in mind that not even your closest friend shares all of your beliefs/opinions about everything, but that doesn't stop you from getting along in real life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we can all agree to disagree, the discussions on this thread will have far fewer "issues".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just my

[assassin_696]

I think there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate, as long as it's not taken too seriously. Because let's face it, these boards are for a role-playing game, and so these boards should be fun and interesting to visit. Debate's good, but like those school debate's in real life you should be able to go up to the opposition after, and shake his hand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's like in sport, (rugby especially) you may give a guy on the other team a hard tackle, but you're only doing it to try and win the game, it's not unnecessary or personal. Afterwards you should be man enough to help the guy off the floor, share a joke with him and buy him a drink after the game. That's what it should be like, not the bitterness that gets carried from thread to thread. Show a difference of opinion, that's fine, but don't be afraid to admit you're wrong and don't make it personal.

[Turnip]

 

 

i blame that group of people who live on this forum and think theyre better than everyone else

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're blaming yourself then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i knew that was coming but i didnt expect it from some kid who is just trying to be funny and has probably never even posted on the same topic as me prior to this one

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh don't worry, I've posted on many of the same posts as you, and have read many of your posts around the forums recently. Doesn't mean this is my first name here ya know ;)

[blue107]

 

 

 

i blame that group of people who live on this forum and think theyre better than everyone else

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're blaming yourself then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i knew that was coming but i didnt expect it from some kid who is just trying to be funny and has probably never even posted on the same topic as me prior to this one

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh don't worry, I've posted on many of the same posts as you, and have read many of your posts around the forums recently. Doesn't mean this is my first name here ya know ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

creeps me out when people say that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but im gonna stick with my original statment, the people ruining this forum are those who have to disagree or flame every single person on these forums and wont accept anyones ideas besides their own. this type of thing is what usually leads people into flame wars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the ironic part is that some of these people who flame people and think theyre better than everyone else are some of the more seemingly intelligent people here

[darkmage099]

 

 

 

 

i blame that group of people who live on this forum and think theyre better than everyone else

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're blaming yourself then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i knew that was coming but i didnt expect it from some kid who is just trying to be funny and has probably never even posted on the same topic as me prior to this one

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh don't worry, I've posted on many of the same posts as you, and have read many of your posts around the forums recently. Doesn't mean this is my first name here ya know ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

creeps me out when people say that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but im gonna stick with my original statment, the people ruining this forum are those who have to disagree or flame every single person on these forums and wont accept anyones ideas besides their own. this type of thing is what usually leads people into flame wars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the ironic part is that some of these people who flame people and think theyre better than everyone else are some of the more seemingly intelligent people here

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to throw this out there, you piss me off. 8-) ...in a sort of weird way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I betcha you can't name ONE person that disagrees with every statement made. What's wrong with people disagreeing if they can back it up? What, are we supposed to "accept" your ideas when we disagree with them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flame wars are part of almost every forum. Yes, they are caused by disagreements. What else would they be caused by? I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the clash of ideas. If anything, it adds to the knowledge of everyone reading. Flaming is just when people get frustrated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt any tippiter honestly thinks they are better than any other tippiter. If they do, they do not belong here. It's rare if a person thinks they are better than everyone else on the forum.

[Pete_the_Viscous]

I quite like some of the argument threads. I try and stay out of them these days (perhaps people have noticed this), mainly because it ended up being the same argument again and again. Some of them I still like because I find a lot of people's attempts at it rather funny. Between most of us, though, there's nothing new to be said about the religion thing, so there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of that any more, at least, none of the wild 50 page topic arguments -- where a decent amount of it was actual argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, I don't have time these days to sit and think of ways of explaining where people are wrong in what they're saying -- and there are enough people doing it already, so...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I particularly despise is when someone starts claiming that something along the lines of "rules of debate" apply. I have very little respect, really, for the typical person who (and no offence to anyone here who does this: I'm sure you're not the people I'm talking about really) goes to, say, a debating club, and thinks that this somehow makes them right or good at arguing about things. That, and when people call other people idiots or similar under circumstances where they're just being downright impolite to do so -- sometimes, of course, it's justified.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I think woman and homeworkclub should be brought back for a while to liven things up. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I actually liked everyone here being united against a common foe for once.

[Vito_Blade]

 

 

 

PSAnyone notice no spelling mistakes :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't you mean, "PS (SPACE!) Anyone notice any spelling mistakes? :p".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

=P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And no I will not get in this discussion because I will become flustered by a disagreement and make myself look like a moron.

[Anesthesia]

Basically, I don't have time these days to sit and think of ways of explaining where people are wrong in what they're saying -- and there are enough people doing it already, so...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And for some people it is hopeless anyway, they are so happy believing what they do that, when faced with glaring evidence to the contrary, they don't hesitate to ignore it. That was not directed at the 'normal' religion arguments.

[Viktorkrum77]

Egotisitcal Users =P~ + Good Users O:) + Lurkers :anxious: + Wars = :twisted: :wall: :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" "(No Wars) = Lovely Tip It! :D :P :3>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Mods keep alot of it in check =D>*

[jak722]

I quite like some of the argument threads. I try and stay out of them these days (perhaps people have noticed this), mainly because it ended up being the same argument again and again. Some of them I still like because I find a lot of people's attempts at it rather funny. Between most of us, though, there's nothing new to be said about the religion thing, so there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of that any more, at least, none of the wild 50 page topic arguments -- where a decent amount of it was actual argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, I don't have time these days to sit and think of ways of explaining where people are wrong in what they're saying -- and there are enough people doing it already, so...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I particularly despise is when someone starts claiming that something along the lines of "rules of debate" apply. I have very little respect, really, for the typical person who (and no offence to anyone here who does this: I'm sure you're not the people I'm talking about really) goes to, say, a debating club, and thinks that this somehow makes them right or good at arguing about things. That, and when people call other people idiots or similar under circumstances where they're just being downright impolite to do so -- sometimes, of course, it's justified.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I think woman and homeworkclub should be brought back for a while to liven things up. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I actually liked everyone here being united against a common foe for once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hah, I was wondering where you've been lately lol! :

[logic-is-overrated]

What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that pointlessly flaming people over things that are completely irrelevant to the topic not only makes people want to lynch them, it's basically a big sign that seems to be begging for acceptance. And chances are, if you get off on making fun of people for no reason, we probably don't like you anways.

[Death_By_Pod]

 

 

 

What I particularly despise is when someone starts claiming that something along the lines of "rules of debate" apply. I have very little respect, really, for the typical person who (and no offence to anyone here who does this: I'm sure you're not the people I'm talking about really) goes to, say, a debating club, and thinks that this somehow makes them right or good at arguing about things. That, and when people call other people idiots or similar under circumstances where they're just being downright impolite to do so -- sometimes, of course, it's justified.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know how many times I've seen someone make an outlandish claim without providing any form reasoning for it. I agree that the idea that having formal rules is stupid for a forum; however I expect when you have the burden of proof, to actually provide proof.

[Anesthesia]

I expect when you have the burden of proof, to actually provide proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some don't understand the concept of the burden of proof though. They think it is 'because I asked first, you have to provide proof' that what is true at face value actually is.

[BlueLancer]

 

 

 

I don't know how many times I've seen someone make an outlandish claim without providing any form reasoning for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can say from experience that arguing with this kind of people is worthless, other than for entertainment purposes. There haven't been many recently, but the instant you show them concrete proof that directly blasts "your claim is complete and utter bull*" in their face, they mysteriously stop posting and after some time, still post their theories simply on another topic.

[Guest GhostRanger]

 

 

 

 

I don't know how many times I've seen someone make an outlandish claim without providing any form reasoning for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can say from experience that arguing with this kind of people is worthless, other than for entertainment purposes. There haven't been many recently, but the instant you show them concrete proof that directly blasts "your claim is complete and utter bull*" in their face, they mysteriously stop posting and after some time, still post their theories simply on another topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah? Well prove it! *la la la la la*

[BlueLancer]

I can't be bothered to dig up any old topics but the proof is out there whether you were being sarcastic with the singing comment or not. 8-) They do seem to plug their ears when you tell them anything that goes contrary to their brainwash agenda.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm talking about this kind of people. I'm sorry to shock you Ghost, they are absolutely for real. The site has existed for a long time and it is not a spoof. People like that do exist, even on message boards such as tip.it (just with a different set of 'beliefs')

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The sad thing is that site resembles a typical 'creationist evidence' site a LOT. Look at their "evidence" section. I wish creationists would start taking the subject more seriously, because quite frankly, when it comes to finding out the origins of life, every new theory is welcome even if it may not be up to the standards of evolution for example.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Oh I know exactly who you were talking about. I just kidding. :P

[Pete_the_Viscous]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hah, I was wondering where you've been lately lol! :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically I've been snowed under with work. I've been skimming most of the topics and not replying to even those ones to which I thought I might have something to add. Things will get easier, though, and I'll start posting more again.

[jackalope14]

Yea it would be great if there was no flaming, but when you have this many people on one forum, its inevitable that emotions are going to run high, someones going to feel insulted and flaming will occur.

 

 

 

Its too bad how many posts get locked for flaming.