My rant about fishing

[Anesthesia]

When I was younger I used to go fishing a lot. Whenever we were at my grandmother's house, which is by the Northwest coast of Scotland, we'd fish off piers and boats for Mackerel. I enjoyed it, we sometimes caught over 25 in a trip, but one thing was for sure - we always ate them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What really grinds my gears is people who catch fish which is good to eat but then throw it back, injured and having been suffocated for a couple of minutes. It is a waste and it is cruel. It is cruel simply because there is no decent reason for doing it - much like bullfighting and bear baiting. If you catch a fish with a hook, gut it then fry it then something came of it's suffering (namely a good meal). If you catch a fish, parade it around for a couple of minutes, posing for some photos then throw it back you have harmed it for nothing but a quick thrill.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You may have seen me posting in other topics about meat - in which you'll see I am an avid meat eater, someone who'd love to go hunting given the opportunity and someone who doesn't ethically object to veal or foie gras. The reason for this is that we're humans and we eat meat. I consider my eating something pleasant more important than the life of an animal and that is nature's way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This was on my mind because yesterday I saw a TV show in which some Australians were fishing for some manner of large fish (may have been a swordfish) and then just chucking them back in. I'm sure they would have made an excellent meal.

[issy2]

os then throw it back you have harmed it for nothing but a quick thrill.The reason for this is that we're humans and we eat meat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I admit, a quick death and someone else getting pleasure out of it is better than a slow torture, then death. Still, I did used to catch crab with a tightly bound net with bait in the middle - they would grab onto the net and eat a bit of bait and then we'd put them in a bucket... without hurting them! Genius.

[Anesthesia]

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

[issy2]

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

[Anesthesia]

Yes. Killing animals for sustenance is morally right.

[issy2]

Yes. Killing animals for sustenance is morally right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can live perfectly fine with animal sustenance. I have for about a year and I'm pretty healthy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

[rocketman089]

I've eaten almost every rainbow trout and salmon i've ever caught, but you still have to throw the really little ones away. Yeah they'll be injured with a ripped gill or a hole in their mouth, but you can't eat those little things.

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they'd all die off and effect us humans and get lots of us sick if not. ie. the bird flue.

[Anesthesia]

Wow, a whole year? That's impressive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are meant to eat meat; it is natural. Ooh look, it's from a vegetarian source as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can we bring this back on topic? This is not about the ethics of eating meat, it is about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment.

[issy2]

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they'd all die off and effect us humans and get lots of us sick if not. ie. the bird flue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In fact nowadays the vast majority of animals killed for our miserable satisfaction are bred to be killed. If no-one ate meat, no animals would be bred.

[darkmage099]

 

Yes. Killing animals for sustenance is morally right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can live perfectly fine with animal sustenance. I have for about a year and I'm pretty healthy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just thought I would throw this out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do we have teeth that were meant to eat meat if it is "wrong" to eat meat?

[issy2]

 

 

Yes. Killing animals for sustenance is morally right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can live perfectly fine with animal sustenance. I have for about a year and I'm pretty healthy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just thought I would throw this out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do we have teeth that were meant to eat meat if it is "wrong" to eat meat?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because I'm pretty sure gorillas didn't drink milk and we needed some source of protein.

[darkmage099]

 

 

 

Yes. Killing animals for sustenance is morally right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can live perfectly fine with animal sustenance. I have for about a year and I'm pretty healthy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just thought I would throw this out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do we have teeth that were meant to eat meat if it is "wrong" to eat meat?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because I'm pretty sure gorillas didn't drink milk and we needed some source of protein.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait. Correct me if I am wrong. Don't all mammals drink milk?

[Anesthesia]

This is a topic created to be about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment and not for food. Instead of arguing about whether eating meat is right or not, which is not the issue in question, would anyone care to share their views about hunting/fishing for sport?

[Riku3220]

im pretty sure letting it live is worth a couple of seconds of torture

[Viktorkrum77]

This is a topic created to be about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment and not for food. Instead of arguing about whether eating meat is right or not, which is not the issue in question, would anyone care to share their views about hunting/fishing for sport?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never agreed with it, because I see it as pointless. The only advantage I can see is controlling the animal population, but I think of it as cruel, since you aren't using the animal for any purpose except for entertainment or as a decoration.

[kelem_ryu]

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hehe. Morals.. Right - Wrong... Delicate issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hm.. mabye fishing for sports and throwing the caught, injured fish back into the ocean is on the same lvl as subducing a girl just to [bleep] her and then dumping her (when she expected more).

[darkmage099]

This is a topic created to be about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment and not for food. Instead of arguing about whether eating meat is right or not, which is not the issue in question, would anyone care to share their views about hunting/fishing for sport?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I, personally, think it is boring and a waste of my time. However, if other people pleasure from that, I am totally fine with that as long as it is not poaching.

[Astralinre]

This is a topic created to be about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment and not for food. Instead of arguing about whether eating meat is right or not, which is not the issue in question, would anyone care to share their views about hunting/fishing for sport?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you. Hunting/fishing is fine, so long as the animals are used. As a Christian, I believe that part of man's job in ruling the earth is to make the best possible use of nature, while at the same time conserving it and caring for it. Hunting/fishing, so long as it is done for food, and so long as it is done in moderation, is perfectly fine.

[rushrock]

This is a topic created to be about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment and not for food. Instead of arguing about whether eating meat is right or not, which is not the issue in question, would anyone care to share their views about hunting/fishing for sport?

 

 

 

I don't really hunt, but fishing is awesome! True, you did make a good point, it does seem cruel. Maybe next time I fish, I'll think about that...I just asked my dad, and even he agrees!

[Anesthesia]

Surely poaching is, by definition, the taking of fish or game from another person's property? Throwing it back wouldn't be poaching.

[Riku3220]

 

This is a topic created to be about the ethics of hunting/fishing for entertainment and not for food. Instead of arguing about whether eating meat is right or not, which is not the issue in question, would anyone care to share their views about hunting/fishing for sport?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you. Hunting/fishing is fine, so long as the animals are used. As a Christian, I believe that part of man's job in ruling the earth is to make the best possible use of nature, while at the same time conserving it and caring for it. Hunting/fishing, so long as it is done for food, and so long as it is done in moderation, is perfectly fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its great that you see that but if it were a small fish wouldn't you want it to actually live a life before its eaten (aka get bigger so we can eat it)

[One Too Far]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that just because it's natural doesn't mean it's right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't resist mentioning that you're wrong. The world has been populated with animals which kill each other for millions of years and we're completely fine. It is right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morally right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is. Otherwise we get overpopulation and diseases come into effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does that prove killing animals for food is right? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they'd all die off and effect us humans and get lots of us sick if not. ie. the bird flue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In fact nowadays the vast majority of animals killed for our miserable satisfaction are bred to be killed. If no-one ate meat, no animals would be bred.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

people would be less energetic if they did not eat meat for the nutritions and artificial meat replacers are the total opposite of healthy and the breading is needed because we humans just became to good to use natural recourses so we had to use our brain to think of breeding and i am agreeing that some breeding farms are just torturing them and i also think that fishing and not eating the fish is totaly stupid altough the fish would get eaten bye a other fish wich could be eaten

[darkmage099]

Surely poaching is, by definition, the taking of fish or game from another person's property? Throwing it back wouldn't be poaching.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also do not agree with hunting endangered or threatened species.