Dumbledore . . . dead or alive?

[BlueLancer]

Please elaborate what are these "[bleep]"s. It seems the tip.it censor is going nuts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

seriously, some people just get way too much into this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some people are still in denial and laugh, make theories and joke about his death, you'll see the suicide statistics skyrocket next year when they find out Dumbledore is just that, dead.

[____]

the bleep you see everywhere is: fawks, which is the name of Dumbledore's Pheonix.

[ur_b0n3s_r0k]

interesting

 

 

 

and we do this for fun, not to waste time . .

[jgrazotis]

i thought dumbledore was dead

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but that makes alot of sense

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if dumbledore did turn into a pheniox went the tomb burned up he could have apparrated because phenioxes can, they burst into flame and dissappear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

even if dumbledore really is dead theres still his potrait in the headmasters office if harry needs help just talk to it

[moose585]

Big Flame right here. LEARN TO SPELL! :evil:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic, i think he really is dead, just because she said she was going to polish off her characters one by one. If im not mistaken? I'll post more of my thoughts later.

[Elphinstone]

HE GOT HIT BY 'AVADA KADAVRA' AND FELL 100 FEET!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What more proof do you need?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's dead. Get over it.

[Kiriyama]

HE GOT HIT BY 'AVADA KADAVRA' AND FELL 100 FEET!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What more proof do you need?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's dead. Get over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. The spell was not spoken.

 

 

 

2. Dumbledore once saved Harry when he fell off a broom OVER 100 feet in the air.

 

 

 

3. Draught of Living Death puts the drinker into a sleep so deep it is deathlike.

[ur_b0n3s_r0k]

HE GOT HIT BY 'AVADA KADAVRA' AND FELL 100 FEET!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What more proof do you need?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's dead. Get over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who said he got hit?? Silent spells! Snape may have said the words but he's not a killer so he didn't really mean it! While we was faking avada kadavra, he said a silent spell to shoot him over the castle. Now the killing spell does not shoot you 100 feet!! Examples:Harrys parents fell over dead, Cedric diggery fell over dead, it said they were dead before they hit the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No Dumbledore is one of the greatest wizards ever, you think he can't stop himself from a 100 ft fall? He can save Harry from his broom at much higher and he can't even save himself? I think not.

[elmo_killer6]

personally i think dumbledoor is dead for good. all along snape has been evil :twisted: i dont think J.K. rowling would kill him off then have him reapear 1 book later maybe if he died in the 5th book and was slowly forgeten about he might come back in the 7th

[Guest AshKaYu]

So basically everyone besides me thinks J.K. Rowling is a liar?

[LordChocobot]

I have a feeling all that talk about silent spells in the 6th book was written in there as a red herring, just so people would have some sort of 'clue' to believe that Dumbledore is still alive.

[The Dark Lord]

I believe he died so Harry would have to face Voldemort alone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(In fact Ron and Hermionine -I think I spelled her name right...- agree to help Harry.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So apparently Hogwarts might or may not close down, but Harry's friends are going to help him track down all the part of Voldemort's soul, destroy them, and then kill Voldemort for good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really if Dumbledore was alive, it would spoil the fun of Harry Potter avenging his parents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe Snape made an oath to slay Dumbledore or something, can't really remember. But if he broke the oath, he would die. Also, he made the oath willingly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also when Snape casted Avada Kedavra (killing spell) on Dumbledore, he actually shouted the incantation as normal (with malice in his eyes) and the spell hit Dumbledore in the chest hard enough that he flew off the castle. However, it does make me wonder why he prevented Harry from saving him. Maybe it was because he was afraid he would kill Malfoy because Dumbledore knew Malfoy wasn't a killer.

[ur_b0n3s_r0k]

I'm sure harry will fight voldmort alone, weather dumbledore comes back or not

[Kiriyama]

So basically everyone besides me thinks J.K. Rowling is a liar?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you were an Author would you ruin a major part in the next book by telling that it will happen?

[Tigra00]

Soooo...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about that Emma Watson chick? Man, if I was still under 18 I'd so..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Right. Harry Potter. Dumbledore. Snape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why are you all talking about men? Talk about the women. Noone cares about Harry Pothead or Dumbledork. I want more of Hotmione!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yea, I went there.

[kelem_ryu]

Soooo...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about that Emma Watson chick? Man, if I was still under 18 I'd so..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol! +1

[gunker1991]

Soooo...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about that Emma Watson chick? Man, if I was still under 18 I'd so..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Right. Harry Potter. Dumbledore. Snape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why are you all talking about men? Talk about the women. Noone cares about Harry Pothead or Dumbledork. I want more of Hotmione!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yea, I went there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haha made me fall of my chair Irl....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now my head hurts,you're mean.

[blushenka]

...I really can't believe this many people care about a book character. That's kinda' creepy...

 

 

 

I completely fail to see the creep factor in it *shrug*

 

 

 

In fact, I'm now really curious to see what you mean by that. ^^

 

 

 

On topic: first time I read the book, I saw all the hints that Dumbledore wasn't really dead. Then the second time I read it, I was like 'hmm, I'm afraid he's really dead'. Like JK is playing with it, you know, throwing all those hints because she knows we're gonna interpret them, but in fact, she'll double trick us cause Dumbledore will remain dead.

 

 

 

Like with Sirius - how many people think he's not really dead, etc. Clearly though he is. dead ..since no further mention of this had been made in the books to suggest otherwise.

[Karmastocracy]

Apparently nobody took the time to read my post... Anyways here it is again to all those speculators.

 

 

 

On August 2, 2006, at the second night of the Harry, Carrie, and Garp charity event at Radio City Music Hall in New York City, J.K. Rowling gave a reading from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and then answered questions from the fans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nine year old Cory Mayer from Bordentown, New Jersey, asked:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a recent interview you hinted at two main characters dying and possibly Harry Potter too. Was Dumbledore considered one of the main characters or will we have the chance to see him in action once again? Since he is the most powerful wizard of all time and Harry Potter is so loyal to him, how could he really be dead?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J.K. put her head in hear arms and replied:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I feel terrible. The British writer Graham Green once said that every writer had to have a chip of ice in their heart. Oh no. I think you may just have ruined my career. Umm, I really can't answer that question because the answer is in book seven but, you shouldn't expect Dumbledore to do a Gandalf. Let me just put it that way. I'm sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then author Salman Rushdie and his young son came up to ask a question, to which J.K. reacted:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not that sure this is fair. I think you might be better at guessing plots than most. But anyway, off you go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mr. Rushdie then asked:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Until the events of Volume 6, it was always made plain that Snape might have been an unlikable fellow but he was essentially one of the good guys. Dumbledore himself had always vouched for him. Now we are suddenly told that Snape is a villian and Dumbledore's killer. We cannot, or don't want to believe this. Our theory is that Snape is in fact, still a good guy, from which it follows that Dumbledore can't really be dead and that the death is a ruse cooked up between Dumbledore and Snape to put Voldemort off his guard so that when Harry and Voldemort come face to face, Harry may have more allies than he or Voldemort suspects. So, is Snape good or bad? In our opinion, everything follows from it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J.K. cautiously replied:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, Salman, your opinion, I would say is, right. But I see that I need to be a little more explicit and say that Dumbledore is definitely dead. And I do know - I do know that there is an entire website out there that says - that's name is DumbledoreIsNotDead.com so umm, I'd imagine they're not pretty happy right now. But I think I need - you need - all of you need to move through the five stages of grief and I'm just helping you get past denial.

 

 

 

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My original thesis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This web site has been updated several times since it was created a little more than a year ago, just a few days after Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was released on July 16, 2005. But the site's opening remarks have not changed since that first day. My first words were:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dumbledore Is Not Dead! Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I also said this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really dead, or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Death Eater, and he killed Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I've never claimed for sure that Dumbledore is not dead, just that there are lots of clues that make us wonder if it's possible or not that he's still alive, or that something else sneaky was happening up on the tower that night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most of all, I also said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think of this site as Half-Blood Prince therapy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How what J.K. said fits with this site

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The most important aspect of the theories and clues on this site is that there's more going on in Half-Blood Prince with the "death" of Dumbledore than meets the eye. And J.K.'s first answer to the question of Dumbledore all but confirms this. Even though J.K. is insisting that Dumbledore is dead, when asked point-blank about it by the little boy, J.K. answered:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really can't answer that question because the answer is in book seven...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's really important. Dumbledore is dead, but that's not the whole story, because the answer to what is really going on with Dumbledore will be told in Book 7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In addition, the second most important aspect of this site is the belief that if something is going on, Snape must be in on it, which mean's he's on our side. When Salman Rushdie asked:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, is Snape good or bad? In our opinion, everything follows from it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J.K. cautiously replied:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, Salman, your opinion, I would say is, right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There you have it. It's as not black and white as the ending of Half-Blood Prince would have you believe. Everything follows from whether Snape is good or bad, as we've been saying on this site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, it's interesting to point out that Mr. Rushdie, who J.K. herself had just acknowledged to be "better at guessing plots than most", described in his question almost word for word, this site's theories about Snape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where does this leave us?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, what does that mean to us here at DumbledoreIsNotDead.com?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've never claimed for sure that Dumbledore was still alive. It's only that there are clues that make it possible to think he's not dead, and even if he is really dead, perhaps thinking about these clues could make us all feel a little better about the terrible events at the end of Half-Blood Prince, which is what J.K. said she wanted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I think J.K.'s protestations aside that Dumbeldore really is dead, her comments pretty much confirmed that there was more going on up the tower that night than was obvious, and she said we'd find out more in Book 7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's impotant to note that these new comments by J.K. don't magically make all the clues we've uncovered go away, all of which lead to the conclusion, to which Salman Rushdie agrees, that Dumbledore and Snape were up to something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is Dumbledore alive? Is Snape on our side?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The answer is, it's still up to you, as it always has been since the day we started this site, to read all the clues, go back into the books, examine all the evidence and decide for yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if this web site has any purpose at all, perhaps it's most important purpose is to remind us that, no matter how the story turns out, to paraphrase Dumbledore himself, he will have only truly left our hearts when none here are loyal to his memory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Directly Quoted.

 

 

 

I don't believe he is still alive, but there are mysteries to his death. And I also believe Snape is acually good, and was just "Following Orders".

 

 

 

There ya have it, what I think.

[ur_b0n3s_r0k]

interesting