Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hey, I was thinking, is it wise to invest money to get 85 smithing? Ofcourse its a very cool skill to have, but is it also worth it? I was thinking of buying rune ores (or mining) and some coal and make into rune bars, which can be sold to higher smiths who can make full rune suits. Or make some axes myself. Is this a profitable method of earning cash? I dont know anything about the rune market. Thanks in the advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValaraZ Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 You would have to find a perm seller that sells below the market price to make it cost effective. I don't know if it's profitable or not, i don't have the skill lvl. I'll just assume it's not, since there are too many people doing it to make it effective. Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant: "If I live, I will kill you, If I Die, you are forgiven." Such is the Rule of Honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fremus Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 well if you mine ure ores... u surely make a profit Fletching/Fishing/Crafting/Firemaking/cooking cape owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Yea but I was wondering, what if you buy a large supply of rune ores and coal ores at market price, then superheat all of them and sell the rune bars or rune axes, will that make fast profit? As valaraz pointed out, there are alot of runesmiths, so it wont be a hole in the market, but I was looking for a steady flow of income, other then runemining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fremus Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 well some day ago i was browsing the forums.... they were selling rune ores 11k-11.5k ea and selling the bars 13.5k -14k ea well if i did the maths good - u gain some cash each rune bar if u buy all the supplies. And there are alot of people buying rune ores and bars.. Fletching/Fishing/Crafting/Firemaking/cooking cape owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhelimReagh Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I have 86 smithing, and I make my smithing money smelting cannonballs, or smelting iron then smithing iron knives. The money in Rune is Rune Mining. 8 Coal Ores = 1.5K 1 Rune Ore = 11.5K Rune Bars = 12K Unless you're using the Blast Furnace, you're losing 1K per bar. With the Blast Furnace, you can break even, but then you're smithing really slows down. Smithing is the 'bastard child' of runescape skills. You get no real additional benefit after you hit about 40, until you finally get to 99 and can smith full rune. Even then, it's no great shakes. Rune items really don't move en-masse. You have to sell them one at a time. Cannonballs and iron knives you can sell by the thousands to one buyer. I am 86 smithing, and I've yet to smith a single rune bar or item. There's really no point. I don't want to spend 1.2 million to buy 100 runite bars to make 100 runite axes, for 7.5K XP, and have then sit in my bank, while I hang around F2P Draynor, and hope to sell them over a few days. That's my take on it, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hm so If I superheat about 1k an hour, Ill have a great income? Ofcourse Ill have buying and selling issues but if I can find permanent buyers... Thanks, maybe something to do in the summer. Anyone got experience with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fremus Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 are u sure rune bars are 12k ea? - i just browsed official forums... quick code "35-36-773-40022172" and buying at 13k ea... well... im not sure hehe...but i think a little profit is made Fletching/Fishing/Crafting/Firemaking/cooking cape owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hm only up to 13k each that not so much, maybe it isnt as good as I thaught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhelimReagh Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I Just checked too, and yeah, it's 13K, apparently. But there doesn't seem to be a very vibrant market of buyers or sellers on the official forums. I did a search for "rune" under "Ores and Bars", and there are very few bar buyers and/or sellers. Maybe 3-5/day. Maybe there's a way for it to be profitable, but it looks like more hassle than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fremus Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 yes its "hard" to find sellers on official forums... but i think he can stick to the superheating - and - selling thing... Fletching/Fishing/Crafting/Firemaking/cooking cape owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouwzie Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I have 86 smithing, and I make my smithing money smelting cannonballs, or smelting iron then smithing iron knives. The money in Rune is Rune Mining. 8 Coal Ores = 1.5K 1 Rune Ore = 11.5K Rune Bars = 12K Blah, blah, blah.... 1,5+11,5=13? Maybe that is why they sell for 13k? I think you can make a good profit if you mine the rune ores and buy the coal ores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhelimReagh Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I have 86 smithing, and I make my smithing money smelting cannonballs, or smelting iron then smithing iron knives. The money in Rune is Rune Mining. 8 Coal Ores = 1.5K 1 Rune Ore = 11.5K Rune Bars = 12K Blah, blah, blah.... 1,5+11,5=13? Maybe that is why they sell for 13k? I think you can make a good profit if you mine the rune ores and buy the coal ores. I was using Zybez's Market Price Guide, which said the range was 11-13K, so I used the average price of 12K. But since we're using prices pulled from the RSOF, ores are 12K. So you lose 500-600 gp bar, or profit 400-500 bar if using the Blast Furnace. But, as I'm sure you're aware, using the blast furnace is quite slow if you're running back and forth between the furnace and the bank. And thanks for re-iterating my point: The money in Rune is Rune Mining. Trying to make consistent money smithing rune STILL isn't viable, not matter how snarky a post you muster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 I see, nobody buys over 13k. You have to pay 11,5 for the rune ore, 1,6 for the coal and 0,3 for the nature. So thats -0,4 profit. Even if you get lucky enough to buy rune ores at 11k, you only have 100 profit for alot of werk, I think Ill let this one slip then, its not worth spending 20-like million in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hey, I was thinking, is it wise to invest money to get 85 smithing? Well, back in the early days of RS, smithing was very, very good. Now, Rune gear is the third best in the game, prices have dropped, and there are about 550 players that (with a DS) can make full rune gear. ...but is it also worth it? It's gonna be very, very expensive or slow to get. I was thinking of buying rune ores (or mining) and some coal and make into rune bars, which can be sold to higher smiths... Is this a profitable method of earning cash? I think that the most straightforward way to make cash based on runite ore is to just mine it and sell the raw ore. Raising smithing takes a lot of cash or a huge amount of time. Raising mining takes "reasonable" time with no walking and no expenses. I have 85 mining but only 77 smithing (45% of the way to 85) It will take me 32292 smelted steel bars to get 85 smithing. (or 47361 bought bars and $26 million cash) But why? I can already get good cash from the runite ore that I sell. So, IMHO, if you want cash, get 85 mining. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 I dont think Ill ever try getting 85 smithing then. I have got 90 mining now, so when I reach a high combat, Ill try some more runemining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 ...so when I reach a high combat, Ill try some more runemining. Well, I think that successfull runite ore mining is more dependant on scouts, timing, and strategy to avoid the PKers than it is on combat level. A high combat level will help, but it is possible at lower levels. My biggest problem is finding full rune rocks. With over 15300 players able to mine runite ore, those 2 F2P rune rocks are often empty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Jup but I wanted the combat anyway, and it helps. I think that indeed finding a world is hard, when I runemined a year ago only half of this amount could runemine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_way2go Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 There indeed are allot of people that can mine rune (around 15.000) but being member helps to get 35+ ores an hour. I agree that making bars isn't a great way of money but remember that when you make them into rune axes you can easily sell those for 14-16k. That's a 1-3k profit per axe when you buy your bars, not much but still profit. Anyhow: I went for it, took me a little less then a month to hit lvl 85 from 78. Smithing is a real cool skill that not many people have. I'm almost ranked 4000 and I'm only lvl 85... - Back to casual f2p scaping due to limited time (university and girlfriend ) - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piman Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I see desperate woodcutters buy rune axes anywhere from 14k to 25k. however, it would take some time to sell them en masse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximusa Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 There are plenty of buyers, Many MANY sellers. The people asking for 12k for rune ore and 14k for bars dont realise this or merchanters? I always refuse them and they spend hours selling them with no success :-k They think anything over 500 ore/bars is alot and should cost more. #-o The problem is the lower you are the cheaper you need to buy it, the higher you are the less dependent you are on buying low as your able to sell things higher. (Gaining the same profit but easier to buy in bulk) This is how the prices are set and why it makes it harder for a lvl 85 smither to start out on rune. I always buy rune ore at 11.5kea, and bars 13.5kea, I know those people make profit so I am happy at those prices. I buy rune ore at 11.5kea as I can still make a profit while out doing' those buying at 11kea. The pre-made bars themselves take time to smith so I make the same profit not spending the time needed superheating them. Your best bet is to buy at 11k-11.5kea and smith rune bars, selling for 13.5kea. If you want to spend all day you could sell for 14kea.. but a perm buyer/quick (under 10 hours or so) you can sell at 13.5kea/13kea for bars. Your right tho, this skill isnt about making money. Stick to rune mining for that. VMeh BlogV >Miscellaneous Goals< http://www.rsbandb.com/sigs/sig108/bazzaminxer.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reversal Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 If you get a lv 99 smither to smith your items then it is possible to make some money. I'd gave a smither my bars and he would smith for me kites and 2h. back in the past summer it was easy to sell either for 50k. now 45k is what most buyers try to buy at. smithing isn't a good moneymaker but still nontheless it's something for us f2p players to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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