You know the way I barrow saru, it does me fine. But I have to ask you, why the hate for karil tunnels, the only time I've ever really been in trouble with a karil tunnel, was when my torags degraded to 0 without me noticing, so karil ripped through my +20 range defense, and even with my method, most of the time i'll have over 70% of my monks left, sometimes only using 2-3 monks a trip.