"For the persistent slayers" which means killing the new slayer creatures. But eh, you never know. Its true it says that, but in prior bts slayer stuff they always worded it specifically as a drop. "Come across" does leave some ambiguity to its source. Most probably a drop though I do agree with that, even if its a drop from the vines opposed to the actual jadinko's. BTS does make the vine root thiniges sound sort of like a "must do" element, like how u must kill the undead that necrolord spawns they block ur path. Or how you must kill the mages at nex or even how you must kill troll father to remove the protection of the troll runts. But even thats probably a long shot. You should really stop talking about Dungeoneering, you almost never get it right. Well I've not go up that high and I might have boss wrong but ain't there one behind a wall of thing that you have to rnage/mage that spawns some sort of monster that you can't walk or fire through? Yeah from tip.it beastiary "The Necrolord is positioned behind a wall of undead arms reaching out of the floor, and can only be attacked using ranged or magic. You cannot move through or shoot over his skeletal minions. Even though the Necrolord is a spellcaster, magic attacks work fairly well against him." Thats what I was referring too, though I assume positioning yourself right against the wall removes his issue So what you're saying is you don't know how to kill the boss, but will state that you "must" kill the skeletons that the Necromancer spawns. Good job!