Ginger_Warrior

Ok let's say you spent 3 hours on this painting and then someone comes and burns it.How would you feel?You just wasted 3 hours of your life doing something you enjoy(if you don't pretend you do).Oh but it doesn't matter the painting was just some canvas.Nah not a big deal right?Right? :wall: Why qoute me then make the same point as me. the last two sentences were sarcasm as you can see by the smiley Yout still making the same point as me, go back and read my posts carefully. You both seem to be making exactly the same point, that this game is too much of an emotional attachment to be refered to as 'just pixels'.

None2None, I completely agree with that last post - it simply isn't responsible for us as players to see a macroer, report them, and then say "Well, they'll be banned in a few days, and these things take a while". That just isn't good enough, given that the creator has a dozen macoers going at any one time, and they'll just create another account to replace that banned macroer. Jagex needs to start getting involved in the RS community. I think that a solution to this is to put an IP ban on whatever computer the macroer was operating on. However, sometimes I get the impression that Jagex doesn't really want to do this because they like to appeal to families, and families use shared computers, so you'd hurt more than one person in the process. Jagex seems to have gotten into a bad habit of relying on Player Mods as a panacea to the macroing problem. I don't think this is fair on the P-Mods - they want to playthe game just as we do, and their powers with macroers aren't actually any greater than the average player, since as they can only mute, and macorers don't talk. Jagex needs to start spending the millions of pounds they keep bragging about on in-game security, so they can actually personally monitor their own game.

I've never said that all F2P are beggers, and I've never called someone a noob for no apparent reason. I have respect for anyone that has the determination that most F2Pers show. However, when F2Pers start demanding things to be put onto a game that they don't actually contribute anything to, that's when I start to get a tiny bit annoyed. Call me old-fashioned if you like, but I don't really see why my membership money should be spent on players wich play the game for free, and proudly do so. I just don't see what position some F2Pers think that they are in to start demanding things like more quests, magiks, deal arenas, more skills etc.. If you don't actually contribute anything to the community (ie, paying membership to help Jagex afford new updates etc.), I don't see why F2Pers should expect that the rest of us see you as being a part of that community.

I don't like people using the word "scum". It seems kinda... strong and hateful. Scoungers and beggers would be better words. :)

Um... see I also have mixed feelings. Yes, of course it would be awfully nice of them to just give itmes out as compensation, but there's three big problems: 1) CS is inundated with, well, everything already. How do you suppose they could deal with such a sensative issue in a fair way in such a squashed space of time and pressure? 2) Little kiddies would flood CS, adding to problem 1), but also setting a belief that "if you beg hard enough, whine and do crocadile tears, you'll get what you want eventually". 3) It would, once again, raise the issue of fairness. Jagex may not be so concerned over giving out free rune scimmies as compensation for a glitch to a low-level player, but a brand new free party hat? I don't think so. So therefore, the whole issue of high level Vs low level gets swung into the frame again. Until you can solve these three issues (and I believe there's no cure for 2) and 3)...), what you have pushed for isn't realistically gonna happen.

Personally, I don't feel that flag-holding is cheating - but it has its problems that need to be ironed out to make CW games a bit more exciting. I think there's two problems that incur from flag-holding: 1) Flag-holding makes for repetitive boring games of CW, especially with a clan with an ancient. 2) The issue of spies. Although not big enough to have a full rant about, there are some people who infiltrate the other team, take their "enemy's" flag, and don't bring it back home, so no-one on that team can score unless they use the "Take-From" option. However, I believe that both of these issues can be dealt with in one easy solution: The flag should be returned to its owner's castle, and a point rewarded to the enemy's team if the flag is kept outside of the owner's castle for 5 minutes. This solves problem 1) because it forces to game to be more offensive and less of a case of 'who has more defensive ancients'. Problem 2) is also obviously solved because the spy would achieved nothing - a point has been rewarded, so their purpose has been defeated. Furthermore, I think this can be justified. For a while now, I've noticed CW turning into a game that can be won in 2 mins because a team of ancients waits outside the door for a guy to come out with their flag, and this is turning CW into a previously exciting, strategical game into a very linear, monotonous game. This rule would allow for much more offensive games by taking away the power an ancient has on the outcome in a game, and forcing them to use their powers in a much more creative and exciting way, as opposed to just ice blasting the flag holder. Many would see this as an attack against ancients - well in a way, yes it is, but it's more of a case of taking away this boring defensive style of play everyone seems to have adhered to, and putting more passion and excitement into the game.

Just a comment about the "community" aspect of the article. Many replies I've read seem to be giving the general concensus of "I wouldn't be here if my friends weren't". I just want to make a point that people shouldn't take a friendship in RS to be representative of the whole community. I have friends too, and yes I probably would quit if they did, and all of them are very mature and polite - the charecteristics which should represent a good community - but this shouldn't be taken to be evidence of a good community. The point I'm making is that you shouldn't take an in-game friendship as a generalisation of the whole of the RS community. Let's not play this down - most people on RS aren't particularly well-mannered, pleasent people. The word "noob" is said more times than I can count; there's a huge problem with scammers, lurers and macroers; most people hold prejudice over certain "classes" of RS players (ie Merchanters, Pures, Skillers); there's Modship-wannabes who report everything that moves - the list goes on, and this isn't a particularly small problem; it's fairly widespread and chances are we'll bump into one of these types of people each and every day. After listing that, can someone please explain to me how the RS community is, for lack of a better word, nice? Personally, I think people replying to this article are mixing up a few exceptions with a much bigger picture.

I, Ginger Warrior, have retired from RS. However, here's the progress of a few of my friends: MY FRIENDS Being the frightfully individual person I am, I don't have many friends, not that I really mind all that much. Same goes for RS. I didn't have many to begin with, and most of the ones I had have gone off to play on other things, namely, the XBox 360 (I curse that console!). So now, I only really have one active friend left on RS now, Mc91023. He has exactly the same goals as I do, the only two differences being that 1) He's miles ahead of me :( and 2) He's training on Yews, banking them and then burning them like a Noob, instead of just burning them on the spot :P Anyways, here's his Progress: Mc90123 Goal: 99 Firemaking and 99 Woodcutting

Um... this was one of the most inaccurate Tip.It Times I've seen in a while. I'm not saying I could do much better, and I know this wasn't written by the Editor, but I'll give as much criticism to you as I would do to him. I'm sorry, that's just the way I am. Firstly, I don't feel that RuneScape's success lies in the fact it's a chatroom. Chatrooms are designed for the sole purpose of friends talking to each other in a natural environment - but quintessentially, an envirnoment that they can take outside of the chatroom if the participants so desire. RS is the polar opposite of this. You're not allowed to swear, yet 95% of RS players would swear naturally with their mates in a casual, friendly way, myself included. Neither are you allowed to take a friendship in RS outside of the online world. I know there's bloody good reasons for this, but most of the time it's perfectly safe for two online mates to communicate on something like MSN - in some cases even real life. Yet Jagex censor email addresses, and words like "phone" and "MSN". This taken into consideration, RS is anything but an expanded chatroom. Secondly, the community isn't RS's main factor for success. That lies in the concept of the game. It's a medieval RPG game - the fact is this type of game has always been one of the most popular types of game around. When you think of the Legend of Zelda series, one of the key reasons in explaining its success is it mystical medieval background, which has always appealed to teens in particular. The same goes for RS. When I first joined on this game, the first thing I thought was "Wow, how cool is this game?! I can chop wood and fight monsters!", as opposed to "Oh, this community looks nice - I'll go pay for membership because they're nice people here". In fact, if anything, when see the amount of macroers, lurers, scammers, obnoxious, immature people etc. you can quickly come to the conclusion that the community is actually very negative, not positive, and thus actually turns away much more people than it does attract into P2P. On an additional note about the three consoles (I presume you mean the Wii, 360 and PS3), as my sig says, I came from a Nintendo community, and we watched the NDS and the Wii from the drawing board, to the shop shelves. I believe that far from smashing online play, we actually helped cultivate it. We gave players something that they would never have thought possible - the ability to play with people hundreds, even thousands, of miles away! This opened the floodgate well-and-truly for online gameplay, which has flourished since the release of XBox Live and Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. RS, nor any MMORPG, certainly didn't create online gameplay into the success story it is today. They merely pionered it - it needed the far bigger home console community to truly lift it up from the ground. In that sense, the three big console companies didn't "smash" PC gaming - it actually made it work! All that said and done - a pretty poor article I have to say, but as I say, not that I could have done much better :( Also, I don't believe advertising RS further would do RS any good. In fact, I'd say it would hit RS hard. We see the problems with CS, appeals, reports, the official forums etc.. The fact is, those problemes are there because RS spiraled out of control in terms of popularity, and Jagex have been blown away by the sheer scale fo players on here now compared to one or two years ago. Increasing RS's population further wouldn't only worsen the problem - it might very well even devestate Jagex! So do we really want advertising? I'm afraid my answer is No... BTW, you're also wrong on that point - they do advertise.

Let's think about logistics here. Bloods would (hopefully) need a Rcing level of 75+. Hardly anyone has that level of RCing, and unlike other skills, Rcing is a really hard skill to raise up quick. Therefore, since hardly anyone would be able to craft the bloods, there wouldn't be any significant increase - not compared to sill pieces of paper being traded for 350Mgp anyway...

myreque quests are EXTREMELY boring, darkness of hallowvale(SP?) without a guide was torture. Be thankful it wasn't "take this to that guy, then come back, then slay this monster for me". Those kind of quests really are torture! I'm still a firm believer that the blood talismans will eventually follow from the Myreque quests. The end of DOH leaves a lot of loose ends - it just plays into the hands of Jagex, who can take their time inventing the altar. And it makes sense - vampires, blood. I don't think they'd give access to two treasured rune altars in one quest storyline, either (Death and Blood). They like variety.

You can't really compare rares in RS to the World Depression. If you ask me, trading things for 500Mgp is an unnacceptable practise in itself...

Ripped straight from the psot above me (sowwy :mrgreen: ) 1-more bank space F2P No, if you want to have more of Jagex's memory, pay them for it. 2-more quests No, Jagex's aim as a company is to attract freebies to members, through the temptation of quests. Be thankful for the free holiday updates 3-more skills Around half of the skills members have F2P have, I don't see why you need more. 4-access the forums Yeah OK, I don't see why not. 5-if not, skill capes Go on then... no harm I guess. 6-more items! To what intent or purpose, you have nowhere to put them! 7-more people on friends/ignore lists Mine was fine as an F2P 8-more area in runescape map The area you have provides all of your needs, you don't need more 9-mini-games! Um... no. It be so unbelievably watered down. 10-more monsters to fight Maybe a few Wildy green dragons, but that's it! 11-duel arenas What's wrong with arranging a match in a private non-multi part of the Wildy? 12-just plain more things to do Be grateful that, as a freebiw, you have that much to do 13-more ways to make money Mine coal, chop willows. Easy. 14-the reading skill! ya right...(saw it on ideas for game... it's a joke for anyone who saw it.) Never seen that one, someone PM me a link? As far as I'm concerned, if you're not prepared to aid the progess of RS and Jagex by paying money, you are not a part of this community. I can't believe the ordacity of some of your requests sometimes! For you, this a free game, and I can't see what position you think are in to start making demands or requests, when all you need to do gain membership is pay ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã3.20 or $5 a month (a pathetic amount of money!).

Wasn't this question asked before? Anyways, I chose Calcs. Lol look at all them noobs that have chosen quest guides :P

Well, Duke, I agree I'm one out of thousands, and I realise that. I realised that as soon as I started playing near enough. But that just proves my point further. I don't mean to take this out on you, I truly am sorry, but the lack of interaction between Jagex and players really does lead to this kind of interogation... I'm sorry. However, 2 minutes to look at someone's track record, their appeal and the evidence provided simply isn't enough time to make a rational decision about whether to punish a player full stop, let alone ban someone permanently from the game. As proven, it has lead to situations where people have been wrongly punished. Now a few months ago I would also be turning around to the people on this thread and saying that they're stretched. But we constantly hear about the succes Jagex has and how rich Andrew and Paul have become and all of that stuff, and then we start to wonder why this money isn't being filetered down to us - the very people that make the game rich! What really infuriates me is that Jagex has all this success, yet we have have to put up with a half-built, and arguably incompetant CS service. This clearly isn't fair, and I would have thought that Jagex would actually provide us with a chance of an appeal, even if only out of human decency. Another that that grinds me down is that we all get the same reply asw ell (the one about being in control of the account)! None of us have said that we weren't in control of the account at the time - in fact many of us admit we were by trying describe our own actions at the time. If Jagex are going to reject an appeal, then they can at least give a reason why the appeal was rejected, quoting passages from the evidence to back up their point. Even if this is an automated message, it's just a lot more pleasent to be explained about why your appeal was rejected, rather than having some irrelevent message flung at you as justification for their actions. As for that comment about not reporting if I'm not sure... let's take an example of an "uncertain rule". Macroing. How on earth am I meant to actually be sure 100% in my mind that a person is macroing? I can't see the space in front of their computer to check if there's anyone at the keyboard, nor can I test for a repetitive program. Therefore, there is not way I can be certain someone is macroing... there are loads of bald, tanned top, green trouser Level 3 skillers who decide to have Public Chat turned off. This doesn't make them a macroer. So do you suppose all of us *not* report suspected macroers?

Thanks, Mc Above all else, if I could just add to that post, it just lends so badly in terms of mistakes. If a human makes an error, it can be rechecked and erased/altered. But if you set a bot to do it, you just get into the psyche that the bot is never wrong, and so you won't get any decisions wrong. I am a passionate believer that my appeal failed because I said "I did not ask specifically for anyone's password." 'Not' being the operative word to a human, but not to a robot, for which the key word is either 'ask' or 'password'. Hence, becasue both of those keywords were in my appeal, the bot disregarded 'not', and instantly made the conclusion I was guilty. Duke_Kaleb, surely now me and Mc have clarified it, you have to admit that there is something seriously wrong with this system! Plus don't get sucked into thinking we're just menaces to this game. If Jagex offered me Player Mod-ship, I would happily take it, because I would feel I would be doing my bit in contributing to a better community. But as it is, I personally am reluctant to report someone, out of fear I'll put that person (who may be innocent for all I know) through the same hell all of us have been through!

OK, before I start, I am an athiest. So I don't believe in the teachings of most religions, and I reject the idea of God - there is a perfectly logical, scientific explanation to everything in my eyes. I personally am a believer in Free Religion. That is, there should be no State Religion. Therefore, I do not believe that laws should be based on religious teachings. They should be made on the basis of the culture of those peoples, however, I do accept that religion is a part of culture, and I wouldn't mind so much if it brought into a law through culture, through religious teaching. For example, just because I have no God, doesn't mean I'm an anarchist. Things like murder are still big no noes in my mind, and that line of thinking roots itself in the code of laws I follow, which are based on Christianity. However, if the government of my country made a bill that proposed that Christianity be taught in classrooms, complusory, across the whole land, I would strongly oppose it. People should have the right to go and receive an education, without being deliberetly targeted with an attempt to convert them into Christians, or Muslims, or Jews - whatever. People should be free to make their own minds regarding religion, and the RE syllabus that we follow in the UK educates people on culture and religion, without the intent to bias them towards converting. Having said that, I cannot get my head round the existence of god. To pick out Christianity, the World's biggest religion, there are several instances where the church says one thing then scientists disprove it. The most obvious being "The end of the world". But also, the way in which it holds hypocracy within its own ranks. For example, the issue of Gay rights. Why is it Jesus taught "Love thy neighbour" if leading figures of the Catholic Church can't accept Gay priests? Another case of hypocracy is the Slave Trade. Kind of relevent considering it's the 200th anniversary of the Slave Trade Abolition Act last Sunday. The church actually supported the Slave Trade, justifying it by saying "They have no souls, we are spreading the love of God, Christianity and Civilisation to the hordes of scavengers"! Only now, the church tells us it was very wrong and we should now help them. Now I'm not saying the rest of the population was more morally minded regarding slaves, but surely if the Bible hasn't changed in 2,000 years (well, never actually I guess), their teachings would also remain constant? It's such mental dilemas that confuse me in regards to religion. So I look to the only thing that seems to make logical sense - Mathematics and Science.

Ever seen the "ads by Google" messages, next to advertising banners? That's how. Make an absolute killing out of it, especially when you consider how vast the Internet is.

Being someone who lives in the UK, I only get my information from Matt Fry, and BBC News. However, it seems to me that the Republican camp simply doesn't have anyone that can "Wow" the people. So for me, this is a race between Hilary Clinton and Obama. If I was a betting man, my money would be on Hilary. I think she has the monetary resources that Obama simply does not. Also secondly, and I mean no offense by this, but America is still an incredibly racist country (Britain's not much better , but you can't hide from the truth). I just don't believe that Obama will gain enough white liberal support in order to reach Presidency.

Duke, I'm sorry but nothing in that reply holds true in reality. CS takes its time, yes, but that's only when it comes to game-related queries and the like. In other words, messages that actually require some kind of human interaction. That much I can understand, since as answering a player's query isn't so much a matter of urgency. However, this thread isn't talking about such queries, we're talking about bans and appeals, which are by far much faster. So fast, it took about 30 seconds (I'm not exagerating there) to get a reply to my appeal. Now if you're saying they look at my account history (squeeky clean apart from that offence BTW!), and the evidence (of which is there is none of an offense commited, in my case), and the appeal itself (in which I stated there was no evidence), then one of three conclusions have to be taken: a) They don't take as much time as they should B) They are incredibly hasty, either though incompetence or pressure, or both. c) It's done by a robot (and by the number of "you were in complete control..." messages, I'm placing my house on this one). But there is no way that an appeal can be done in 30 seconds, and a rational decision made! And personally, I think this is disgusting when Jagex advertise the fact you will get a fair hearing, and we're talking about negating months, sometimes years, of hard work, commitment, and loyalty to this company.

+1 Well Jagex must also learn that their interests are not the interests of the common player, and that they need to meet their player's demands, not the demands of the minority of ranters. They ought to post the death of a player, although marriages would just be a bit too personal. I think that you're right in the sense that the way they act relates to the JaGEx treat people on RS. It does seem to be a case of a few people rant on the "Overpowered Skill", and it's instantly seen as everyone wants to weapon/stat to be changed. Also, it's almost a sense of arrogance in a way on the part of JaGEx. It's very much a "you don't like it, but we do, so we'll do it anyway :P " kinda mentallity. But also, it's indecisiveness. The fact rule 7 had been changed 3 times in as many months, and the fact the barrel-chest anchor seems to add a new plate of player-whacking iron every week just shows this. JaGEx wants to build this game into a low-level rot house? Well that's fine by me, I'll just go and play some other MMORPG that emphasises the need for a strong community, and a direct relationship between players and developers, something which RS seems to lack...

Duke_Kaleb, I can understand that many of these do look suspicious, but Jagex do clearly state that they only give people blackmarks based on hard evidence, and not suspicions. I speak as someone who has 10.0 blackmarks, with one offense - password scamming. I shoudn't obviously display any of the messages sent by Jagex (although, I don't actually think they have any legal right to stop me...), but basically, I was talking to another person at Catherby about the tragic passing away of The Old Nite. He asked me, why couldn't his son take over his account? I answered, because he probably doesn't know his ******** (password). In sheer fear of being reported for offensive language, I tried by pass the censor filter, and eventually made it known Iwas talking about his password. That was my one tragic mistake. I was reported by 3 people for password scamming. I appealed, saying I had no malicious intent, and was only talking about The Old Nite. I received the typical reply... that they had "evidence" I had broken the rule, and I was in control of my account. However, I know in my mind I broke no rule, so there can be no "evidence" of breaking any rule. Duke_Kaleb, you have to understand that our frustrations aren't at the fact we've been reported. We're mad because they clearly have not been read to any detail worthy of banning an account, and in many cases, serious miscarriages of justice have been handed out. You Moderators like to use the excuse "They have no time, because they're inundated with appeals and reports". This is no excuse! Andrew and Paul make millions out of this game every year, and yet they can't invest in a decent CS system?! It's unfair that we have to constantly watch our backs and panic everytime the censor filter messes up, and it looks like we've said a swear... and to add insult to injury, be placed in such a compromised position because our reports aren't properly analysed! I'm sorry, Jagex, but my faith in your appeal/report system has been completely shattered. And this isn't a knee-jerk reaction to it, this happened half a year ago and I still feel strongly about it. The only way I'd ever had confidence back is if a human re-read my "evidence" and removed my blackmarks, becasue I'm clearly innocent.

I personally think no, for three reason - fire capes, the ̮̬̉̉lite players and pures. Think of the increase in the number of fire capes in the game. If people can just 1-hit-KO, then killing difficult monsters would be the case of clicking two mouse buttons... hardly a challenge. Secondly, this would just play into the hands of the ̮̬̉̉lite players, and ake them even more rich. They could just pick off everyone in the wilderness, using their crazy amounts of cash stored in the bank, claim their loot, and sell for mmore monye, and the cycle continues. This would just be ridiculous. Thirdly, if a spell can just rip trough and neglect everyone's defence, then I guess that just makes the pures' argument about not training defence up, on the grounds that there's not much point training defence if an attack used against you completely neglect's it anyway. Not to mention, if the pures could get their hands on such a spell.... we may as well not step into the Wildy again. I don't mean to be prejudicial to pures, but you have to admit it would to far too unbalanced!

I agree, if anything the fact that the community is so large in comparison it would make JAGeX a much easier target for being accused of favouritism, on the grounds that they simply cannot congratulate or become "involved" with every single person, so some would have to be left out. Marriages, I can understand. It's a violation of personal privacy. But I don't see the harm in annoucing deaths, of any players, so long as their family have given their permission. But most of all, I'd just like the face to be taken off the mask of Jagex. In short, I want them to talk to us, and by that I mean come on to fansites like Tip.It and discuss with players what changes they should(n't) make. Every other company in thw world does this, and it really grits me when they just don't bother to listen to what their customers think. They need to be more invovled in the community, and if they get accused of favouritism... well that's the world for ya. We don't live under Communism, we live under Capitalism. And that's the way the world works.

God I've not laughed that hard in a long time lol! Great guide! 10/10 \