Ginger_Warrior

Kaida isn't a mod on Tip.It anyway. The mods are in green, anything else except admins in red aren't mods. It's pretty simple and very visable. :unsure:

Mine too. £40 at Iceland in frozen ready meals will get you much more food than £40 at my local flag market would in fresh produce. Eating healthy is one thing, leading an active and healthy lifestyle is another. I can't imagine the latter is accomplished while playing RuneScape in a social isolation of sorts.

If plank-making, I'd go with something you can passively listen to, like music or a radio (great if you like sport). Honestly, my advice would be to go with String Amulet, and play a TV program you can actively watch, because plank-making requires active attention. Of course you have to consider the consequent lag as well, which would make String Amulet more preferable.

I think the question is how he obtained the money to live off. If society at large is paying for him to go on RuneScape all day, then I'll tell you now as a taxpayer myself that I find that an abhorrent waste of public expenditure. There is also the personal reflection of, "What would I do if I were in his shoes?" Employment gaps in CVs/resumes can kill you in a job interview, if you can't find a decent enough excuse for one being there. "I was the top player in RuneScape and I was the first to get 200m experience in all of its skills" is quite obviously not good enough to an employer who couldn't care less about video gaming at all. Even if some people call what he's done an achievement, it isn't one that many people outside of RuneScape will give any respect for. So if having 200m in all skills means killing my career opportunities, then I know where the log-off button is.

There's no shortage of people on this forum who are ex-RuneScapers themselves and are unafraid to call RuneScape for all the flaws it has. However, here, they've just been more efficiently shoved into the Off-Topic forum than is the case with Zybez. I know plenty of OTers who haven't visited this board in years but still continue to be part of the Tip.It community. Some would say the OT community is a community in itself. I think that's the main difference. There's something for people to move on to here once RuneScape gets too boring, whereas there simply isn't on Zybez no matter how much they've tried.

*sigh* Yes, people actively quitting in droves would be the strongest possible way for the playerbase to tell Jagex that we don't like what they're doing. That does not make it the only way to do so. Word of mouth advertising is what made Runescape successful, back in the day. That can go the other direction as well, and massively negative word of mouth ought to be almost as scary as people quitting in droves to Jagex. Just because someone isn't willing to quit over something doesn't mean their opinion against something should be ignored. (And after all, if they quit, why would Jagex care about what they think anyway? They aren't paying customers any more.) So... in not deciding to ragequit, they're evidence that the game is worth playing, but they'll tell other people the game is not worth playing. Can anyone possibly design a finer contradiction? That's quite some distance short of claiming that a significant amount of people who voted in favour of F2P hiscores will leave with you, isn't it? You're trying to assume a bridge between "P2Pers not liking update x", and "There will be less P2Pers if update x goes through", but the reality is your questions only validate the former, and don't even mention the latter. So in conclusion, the only thing standing inbetween Jagex and the removal of F2P players from the hiscores is... your personal testimony. I don't fancy your chances, and we all know that at some point this coming Monday to Wednesday, the inevitable will happen, because Jagex simply don't agree that this is poor business.

"Not wanting" something to happen and actually doing something to stop it are two seperate things. That's what makes a poor business decision, and you know it. You haven't even touched the real question that needs asking here in order to decide if this is a poor business decision, "Would you quit as a P2P player if Jagex carried on their plans to remove F2P players from the hiscores?" Worse still, even if you did have the balls to ask that, you wouldn't follow it up with another poll in three months time checking if people who said they'd quit actually did so.

And which post are you referring to, or are you just trolling? This whole thread, and no I'm not trolling. You could've carried this debate on in the thread that already existed, but no, you wanted a poll, as if that would provide the Holy Grail you've been looking for to keep F2P hiscores open. I'm just placing in the caveat that even if you get 100% of people supporting you, you can still be wrong, and actually, the number of people who agree with you is largely an irrelevence unless Jagex decide to open a referendum on the issue (which they won't, so why bother holding one of your own when it carries no weight at all?).

It's generally considered wise not to bite the hand that feeds. I'm not sure what Tip.It would gain by sticking the finger up to "the man". This update would still go ahead, they'd still lose their F2P signatures, and the Wiki would still compete for quality with Tip.It's own resources (I don't necessarily agree with this latter point, but if you do agree with it, you can see what I'm saying). However, Tip.It would also lose the support Jagex give to them. So you lose a bit... lose some more in protest... and for what? To be right on principle? Completely foolish.

Meanwhile, in England... The Sun did a poll asking if we should stop foreign workers from taking British jobs, and the public overwhelmingly supported the idea, as they do for anything pro-nationalist that appears in The Sun. So... now I guess the government would be mad not to kick these bloody foreign doctors and engineers out of the country, right? The Daily Express also did a poll asking whether people would like to pay no tax whatsoever... if the majority of people don't want to pay tax, then for the love of God they shouldn't have to, surely? If you're having to refer to the populist bandwagon to "prove" that your argument is "right", I'll take it as a conceit that you have no confidence about winning the debate through reasoned logic.

What about experience? I would be interested in this (in a participatory way, not necessarily organising it), but I have no real experience of monster hunting. I'm guessing this is the stage of the process where you're looking for people to lead the new teams, and those who aren't as committed/only interested in the actual activity will be given an open invite to join at a later stage. For what it's worth, I think this is an excellent idea which should've been adopted years ago, the issue of TET parties aside.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that there's a significant group of F2P players who may possibly have been thinking about the P2P version of the game, who are going to be so incensed by all of this that they'll now not do so? The main group of people this'll screw over are people who have been F2P for donkey's years and conscientiously decided not to pay for it, even though they could pay and stay on free worlds. I hate to break it to you: this group of people will never pay unless they're made to. I mean, you talk about F2Pers quitting... quitting what, exactly? They were never customers anyway, they were freeloaders. If I walk into my local ASDA store, do they give me some vegetables for free in the hope I might buy some chicken to go with it? Perhaps some of you would argue that if they did it would be "basic business sense". :roll:

But nothing. They don't. Case closed. So why are trying to create an argument on your side when you can't even justify the most key, basic principle to your point of view? And if Jagex decide to do that, I'll just carbon-copy repeat the past few posts. What right do F2P players have to argue, when they're not doing anything in return to deserve the service in the first place?

Again, a response based purely on guesses and speculation about Jagex's long-term business model. You don't even know how much it cost to keep F2Pers in the hiscores in the first place, do you? How the hell can you calculate whether the potential loss in revenue outweighs the cost savings when you can't even work out what the costs were, and you're only speculating, at very best, how much damage this move will actually cause to people who are willing to pay in the first place. I'm not asking for a business argument... I'm asking you to tell me why F2P players have any right to expect a key service from Jagex for absolutely nothing, when everyone else has to pay for the exact same treatment.

Festering about what? Not receiving something for free? I mean, that's the most ridiculous thing about this. It's not like they even did anything to 'purchase' the right to a hiscores table in the first place. I've posted four or five times I think in this thread so far and all I've heard in return is armchair gamers try and give me advice on long-term business strategy. The concept that F2Pers who have never given a penny to Jagex (completely out of personal choice) might not want to become P2P any more is laughable enough, more still when you point out that very few of the people bellyaching here are really going to walk away now. But crucially, not once has anyone on this thread justified the key tenet to the pro-F2P point of view: that Jagex have any obligation whatsoever to offer a key feature of their biggest website in good faith, in return for sweet FA.

I can't believe there's this much fuss about a service that was entirely free for about ten years being (only partially) withdrawn. The analogy with the bike only works if the bike was given for free in the first place.

So you want somebody to give you a favour in return for... nothing. Seems fair.

I agree that lists of information, such as that found beneath the monster image on the above screenshot ('Race' to 'Poisonous'), should be displayed vertically, one row per field, than horizontally. You should treat lists as if they were bullet points, and fill the empty space to the right with images. This is far more readable than the beta's bestiary, in my opinion.

It won't improve access to information, indeed the information given will, arguably, be of even less quality than the RSKB currently provides... but players will engage less in information-seeking behaviour (i.e. looking for fansites)? I'm just not following the logic behind this assumption. :huh:

I thought the whole point of a fansite was to improve access for RuneScape players to knowledge-based resources. Why, then, does it matter if these resources are found on the RuneScape website or Tip.It? If Jagex's own resources are better at educating players than ours are, how is that their responsiblity and why should they give any care to our own hypothetically dilapidated content? You seem to be advocating the denial of access to better learning materials from Jagex, simply because it's not been done by us.

Can I be blunt? There is a solution to this 'problem': pay the ridiculously high price of £3.50 total a month and your place in the hiscores will be preserved. Yeah... it's a funny concept, y'know, paying for stuff. [bleep] you Jagex... [bleep] you.

I remember winning a veteran boat with just myself (114 cmb at the time) and five other people. It's surprisingly easy to escort a brawler up a flight of stairs while shouting "gf torchers".

One thing I have been pleased about is the number of young people I've seen wearing the poppy, even high school children (11-16). It's good that people of my generation can look at the conflicts in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq, and because of that, be able to understand just what level of sacrifice a previous generation made for them. It's also refreshing that in a new digital age where young, impressionable people are relentlessly bombarded with corporate greed and n culture of self-indulgence, that the sad reality of war and its consequences hasn't been lost on my generation. In a sense, it makes me sad that while today, we remember those from the First World War, and on Sunday we remember those who have fallen since, today's young generation aren't fighting a war... they're just unemployed and having ambition sucked away from them by the day. I'm not sure the people I care for day-in, day-out would be particularly proud of the way banks and politicians have mishandled the economic freedom they fought for, and how they've collectively passed the fallout of the recession onto people who are the same age as they were, when they too had to make sacrifices in the national interest. During my two minutes of reflection, I thought that, just like the WW2 veterans sitting only five metres away from me had to following the Wall Street Crash, in the future it will be up to today's young people to deal with the long-term consequences of a 'broken' global economic system. We might just be glad that in order to do this, another Great War will not be required.

Right... I've had it up to here with Jet Pack. Maps? What maps? We may as well be playing on a flat, plain, empty field. When I'm guarding the snipe lift on Uncaged facing corner tower I do not expect some wannabe falcon to come up behind me because it's a one-way [bleep]ing avenue. Camping on top of the centre med pack house (above the rocket spawn) where it's OUT OF BOUNDS and getting kills for it... if it's out of bounds why doesn't this go down as, y'know, cheating? <Rage />

To be fair, the reverse is also true. Bots didn't "just exist". They appeared because people were using them. Those people would be the ones who couldn't be bothered grinding when bots were a 'safe' option, and still can't be bothered now they're not. It's easy to look at the number of players before bot-nuke (x), and players after bot-nuke (y), and say that number of bots = x-y, but it's not that simple.