compfreak847

I make 725k profit and 75k XP\h there. One word. Unicorn.

All of you are COMPLETELY missing the point. The point is this: When hilt RISES, it means that hilts had to be bought for OVER mid price - thus indicating the coinshare 'stock' has been used up. All of the godswords reached this 'break even' point fairly shortly after coinshare came out, indicating that hilts were being devalued at most a few weeks, and the GP drain would counter it in under a month - making coinshare one of the biggest money drains released by Jagex since construction. My point is that if they stabalize, ALL coinshare hilts have been used up. If the hilt rises 1 GP in a day, it means all of the coinshare items have been burned up. The fact that the current hilts are fluctuating - and indeed the fact that all godswords are not currently buyable for min means that coinshare is doing its job draining billions of GP from the economy; EXACTLY what Jagex planned on, and the precise opposite of what the thread creator incorrectly believes.

So your averaging 140 crimsons\h at waterfiends? I haven't tested Scabarites, but I still find Waterfiends a difficult number to swallow; what sort of combat XP are you averaging at waterfiends? What's your outfit? I'm assuming, of course, that all your numbers including banking and task time (Roughly twice an hour at 34 minutes per task). The level of a task really shouldn't affect the XP boost gotten with piety; as mentioned earlier, because accuracy and strength are both being boosted, defence level of the respective monster does not change the outcome.

Range can dish out far more damage in far less time. Mage has numerous special effects and can take down melee and range with ease. Both mage and range are FAR easier, faster, and more profitable to train. Both offer the best charm collecting and money making methods. Melee has cooler looking weapons. [/rant]

You, my friend, have problems...

Two issues with that: Are you using cannon on all tasks, or is 30k = 60k on the tasks you cannon; How are you getting 32k summoning XP\h? That seems highly unrealistic given the numbers we have seen from zarfot\Qeltar. Your combat rates seem more in line; obviously with better prayers you are getting more XP, and the higher slayer\combat levels + summons are helping out a lot with the XP.

[/hide] 110 gs only?! let me in on that! nice drop and alt-f4'ing :lol: We SAY that, but we only let in 120+ unless we're just starting :lol: Oh, and for those of you who don't know, I alt+f4ed moments after this picture was taken - BEFORE I picked up the hilt. Apparently smashing your hands against the keyboard to type isn't a good idea -.-

That has what to do with what? It's just Jagex's attempts to help reduce the fact that melee is 3x harder\longer\more expensive to train then range. Of course, slayer is a bad way to train, so it's a moot point.

Heck yes. Got it over 5+ people with higher LS then me, hadn't got a drop in 10+ kills, it was a new world that we managed to get one kill by speccing over a team with double our people and levels.

Lol... coins appear on floor for a coinshare drop. What coins are being taken out? 100 of millions in gp just appear out of nowhere for hilt drops. Nobody had to buy them. [/stupid posting by an idiot who thinks he knows everything] Yes, coinshare ruined the RS economy and devalued any buyable skill. Woo-woo, here comes the clue train. They are bought for - get this - MID PRICE IN THE GE! Back when the hilts fell for a week and a half there were a few concerns about hilts falling 10-15m before they were bought, but quick hilt price rises proved that they were almost instantly bought. Since then, godswords has stayed fairly stable, letting coinshare drain billions of GP out of the economy, widely considered to be a good thing.

Would you all stop arguing about the maul. Like other speccing weapons, it can hit over the persons HP and display a larger hit. Plus, it can be healed in between by instant bandages that heal 14 each.

This system DRAINS wealth out, because you only receive minimum cash for an item that is sold for MID. Each item takes MILLIONS of GP out of the economy. [/stupid thread]

Alright, come find me ingame, I'll bring plate armor, you bring a slash weapon and a crush weapon that are relatively equal and we'll see. Or you could be the one to bring armor, it doesn't matter as long as it gets done. Come find me in game. I'll bring whip + defender, you bring crushing\stabbing weapon of your choice.

What I WOULD like to see is your exact rates for each task, along with detailed notes on inventory and methods. Then we can examine them and see where you've gone wrong. If you would like to see ours, they can be found earlier in this thread. I have seen no other evidence of anyone doing extensive testing and coming up with vastly different results.

Low Key i think i found your problem. use whip everywhere Nah, whip doesn't work great on platebodies. Heck of a lot better then ANY other weapon out there. At least you've pretended not to know something I can prove 8-) I'd reply, but you know how it is. I feed the troll, and it's all good, but then there's like 20 following me around and it just puts a damper on the whole day. Yeah, that's how it goes. Really stinks when the trolls right and to the point and invalidated your thread and can prove it. When are you going to admit this thread is a joke? :ohnoes:

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I'm sorry, but numbers are set. We have input from a 91 slayer, two 84 slayers, and the 31st ranked slayer. All have been carefully tested; just because you've trained something doesn't mean you've TESTED it. I firmly believe our numbers are accurate to within +-1k; I can show you evidence from every single task. Same goes for profit; it's not something you can guess at.

Low Key i think i found your problem. use whip everywhere Nah, whip doesn't work great on platebodies. Heck of a lot better then ANY other weapon out there. At least you've pretended not to know something I can prove 8-)

get a whip?

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Yeah, WoW's a ton of fun. If you're ever interested, send me a PM and I can set you up on a private server dedicated to PvP. It's free, so you don't have to worry about wasting money. I don't play WoW on the official servers, but private servers are basically the same thing (By private, I mean servers that are run independently, but still have thousand of players on them, =P). But yeah, something needs to be done about F2P. Maybe wave spells would be a potential start. And allowing snare in F2P, that'd also help. Used to play ToxicWow before it got shut down, but I'm fairly clueless. Not sure what the mods policy on this, but send me a PM.

Yup, no argument there; FTP mages maxes out too low. WOW looks nice, I like the whole 'personal skills, not levels' thing, but there's a lot more of that in RS then most people think, at least in mage (Melee = click attack, wait 5 minutes).

Thankfully, it won't. Freezing spells are simply too powerful though; if you mentally time it, you can run for 2 seconds as soon as the meleer is unfrozen, then turn around and freeze without him getting within 10 squares of you.

I don't think they need to; you need a significant mage bonus to use it effectively, and bringing mage armor for a 20 second boost seems a bad idea. I think it would be fine for rangers with a 1.5x effect instead of 2x.

Yes, I agree with both of those; miasmic, however, would HAVE to be tweaked. The only thing keeping it from compltely decimating in PVP is the cost; the time should be reduced to 20 seconds at the most, to bring it more in line with barrage. Also, it should only be 1.5x on range.