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How could killing reduce your slayer xp :shock:

Stalin is also doing pretty well there and Pol Pot would be probably in lead if we counted the percentual kill count.

Top slayers: Stalin Hitler Pol Pot Mao Zedong George Bush Top Strength: Vitali Ponomarenko (370kg from bench) Valadin Dikul (1170kg RAW) Ronnie Coleman Top agility: Ben Johnson (banned for autoing) Carl Lewis Asafa Powell Justin Gatlin Florence Griffith-Joyner Marion Jones Overall: Markku "Uusis" Uusipaavalniemi Chuck Norris

That would mean more hired staff. There's too many servers and far too many popular spots. They'd also need to make sure the suspected character really is autoing, so have fun banning all the autoers even from 1 server. They'd need so big amount of new hired staff that it wouldn't just be worth it.

Yea they got a similar system at the moment, but it should be updated into even more randomised and unlogical so autoupdaters wouldn't work too well and manually finding the differences becomes so slow that the newer update comes to the client than to the bot.

In smithing you can get money back, tho. For example I'd need ~174k gold ores to 99 smith and I'm 85 atm. That would cost me 87 million. If I sold them away 150gp each, I'd lose around 61m. If we start counting from 0xp, you can add like 20m to that. In construction you don't get money back. Construction would cost a bit over 50m if you cut all 210k+ oaks by yourself, ran almost 8 million times to the sawmill and then ran between your house and bank for months. At any reasonable way to train it you gotta spend at least 100m, probably more. The most expensive skill depends on the way how you train it. F2p 99 prayer is probably the most expensive one, even comparable to that Duke's cost of 99 pray in old days. Construction is a skill which can't really be trained in a away which is same time somewhat sane and cheap. You could make profit on your way to 99 smithing or you could spend hundreds of millions on making it as fast as possible. Skilling is about choices :wink:

Many times people have tried to make up this kind of strikes. Sometimes it has been fish, sometimes rune ores, abyssal whips and now nature runes. They have never worked for few different reasons and the main thing being that they still are with current prices a great source of creating money. Second thing is that your idea is impossible: You can't just get thousands of rs players to your unite and try to higher the prices that way. Every time you managed to convince someone, another character hits 44 rc and starts creating natures. Strikes and rising prices may work if there's only a really small and tight minority who got the ability to do something special. However that hasn't been possible in last few years. We got so many players who are willing to train hard, that there won't be any huge gabs between the top players. Look at slayer for example: the first one to hit 85 slayer wasn't the only 85+ slyer after few days. A week later there were tens of them. Hard to manipulate the prices in that, it's totally different to the days when Blue smithed her runite and addy productions. If your strike somehow managed to work for some weeks, it would affect to log prices temporary. Lower demand would just make less people cut them and thus balance the supply. Stuff like raw fish or ores wouldn't be affected by the strike unless people really went into mining/fishing/ woodcutting/whatever madness. I don't see that happening, tho. Why? Because even at best, they are nothing compared to rc.

23.4.2007 So... I now have enough bones to 126 combat and in last 2 days I've been breaking my personal records in the xp done in one day... In prayer that is Razz How does this affect to my farming? Well, not at least negatively. I still got a lot of herb seeds (even tho soon going for worse ones if we only think about xp... but xp isn't the only thing Wink ) and now I can start using money on seeds. I said I got 126 combat banked, but as most of you know, that means lvl 98 pray. I'll now go for it (aim to get it at next friday or saturday) but without forgetting farming. A timer is always a good friend in this kind of situation. Some of you might ask why don't I get 99 straight. Well, the answer is simple: I might go for triple 99 at once. This would mean getting 99 pray, farm and fletch in same event. Why, when or with who? Only time will tell...

You got few different choics: * Bring a tinderbox and a hatchet. Wear the hatchet so only tinderbox will take inv space. There's lots of trees you can cut and light. * Cook them when you're on your way to bank. There's a range in Port Sarim. * Don't cook. This has been suggested since the fishing was released and Jagex still hasn't given you the range. My advice is to learn to live with it; it won't change.

I like the idea, it's pretty much the same as I posted to one thread earlier. Finally we got a thread which actually would have an impact to to autoing, not just make them create one more counter software which takes a day or 2. Here's what I wrote earlier:

Most of my 1007 iron dragon kills are months old. If you ask me, that chart is enough proof that the rate hasn't been lowered: the odd have always been low. Just because you and few other ones haven't had any drops on few loads, it doesn't mean they would have now smaller chances to drop them.

To be honest I couldn't care less were the bodies real or not in a movie as long as they look good. I personally believe this movie will have the worst looking corpses on 21th century if we don't count b-class movies. Why? Because they most likely won't do anything macabre to the bodies before putting them there. Anyways at least we now have some use for bodies. Better to put them into movies than let them rot into their wooden boxes.

It's only worth it if you're planning to get multimillion xp. Why? Because the time you use hunting the suit is away from time you could be doing woodcutting. For few thousand logs it would be faster to cut them without the suit than first get it and then cut.

Brainlessly copying the values is faster than actually thinking which ones to put. It would be faster to copy them than to create them. If some questions were rare, they wouldn't even really need to be noticed. First of all the odds to get one certain random are pretty rare. After that the odds to get a random variable from all the thousands or hundreds... If I was a bot creator I wouldn't lose my dreams because I didn't have one or two values which like never come. After all the life time of one "lvl 3 chinese skiller" is pretty low. I'll answer to these 2 questions here at once. First of all it would be as hard (or even harder) to Jagex to create a software which classifies the right words. To make a program to understand which would be the right answer, they should first "teach" the logic of it to it. This would need a lot of job and copying it wouldn't be that hard. It's true that sniffing the whole database for 10k combinations takes a lot time, more than writing 100 combinations and then putting 100 variables there. However, the could be created same way as this: first copy paste 100 sentences from the decompiled source, after that copy paste the variables and after that copy paste or create an algoritm to detect the right answers. Also don't forget that Jagex should write those sentences in both English and German. However autoers could chose to write them only to 1 version.

Do we count playing payers or just payers? :P I wouldn't really put those lvl 3 chinese "skiller characters" to that category.

It's only worth it in a long run. If you don't seriously plan on doing hardcore (multimillion xp) woodcutting, you can pretty much forget the suit.

Or we could look to the past what kind of anti-macro systems there has been, think how have they worked and why have they failed. This offers nothing new under the sun and I've explained it on this thread why it wouldn't work. And anyways currently Jagex bans thousands of autoers in p2p and probably tens of thousands in f2p every week. They do pay attention to the problem we have and at least I believe we will get something new somewhere in near future; autoers are a bit like rare prices with their peaks and downhills. Currently they are on a peak and Jagex will soon drop them down.

And fletching (and definately fletch-x) came out before Tzaar cave and was one of the easiest skills to level. You also gotta rememer that getting the fire cape requires pretty high levels, preferably in many skills, good equipment, little practice and luck. It's nothing compared to farming which can be profitable, you risk nothing at it and you basically don't need anything else than a hatchet, a bit of cash or some bows to start "merchanting" with. I'd personally say it's somewhere 1:500 to find a person with a firecape. They might be pretty common sight in few specil places, but that's it. That 1:500 is based on my own beliefs. There's somewhat 200,000-350,000 paying members and at least I can't belive there would be many thousands with the fire cape with all these low and middle-leveled characters.

At my iron dragon chart I got these percents for those items: Blood runes (15) 176 17,48 % rune javelins (4) 206 20,46 % 270gp 151 15,00 % 550gp 80 7,94 % 990 gp 6 0,60 % 3000gp 1 0,10 % First drop, then how many times and the last is (if you couldn't find it our yourself :P ) how big percentual odds you got. As steels seem to share the same drop ratios for bloods:runejavelins:coins: runite items:etc, it's not a wonder you feel like getting those drops all the time.

I'd say no or at least it should get a bit edition. First of all some skills would suffer a lot: Imagine the amount of players opening 2 windows and then "selling" pure essences from character A to character B who is at the altar. Same way it would get abused at training construction (save millions in butler fees), altar prayer training, rune mining, etc. However with little editing it's pretty potentical idea.

If you can create an anti-auto system whic is based on logic, you can even easier create a counter software to it. There would be few different ways to solve this random: * Write down every single possibility to a database. This would take time, but so it would take to Jagex create those. If they wanted to make any logic to them, they should pretty much prewrite sentences and put different variables to some certain points. It wouldn't be too hard to find out the base sentences and then add the variables to it. * Make the bot "sniff" the variables and words which are marked as "important" (like at your example today, yesterday, etc) and then create the right answer that way. * Do it like fatigue was first passed in rsc: send an image of a certain part of the screen to a server where others write the word or chose it for you. I'm pretty much arguing against all these anti-auto functions which can somehow be seen in game. If they can be seen by everyone, it means everyone can try to figure an answer to them, their logic can be seen with bare eye and it can be seen immediately if the counter software works or not. The best and the most userfriendly answer would be even better detection software which gets update often so passing it would be only a really temporary thing. No random event has done anything significant against autoing, but by detecting the masses are already being banned. These lvl 3 fishers at guild don't get banned because a Jagex mod comes to them and points his staff ov' ban, he has 28 mysterious boxes in his inventory or he has played 23 hours straight. I already gave one example of an anti-auto function in this thread which would be easier for normal players, has an actual point (seriously, how big chances do you have to get a certain random event during for example 48 hour period? Really slight. If one random was there without a count software, it wouldn't matter) and once it gets passed, it's easy to modify it to work again.

Want me to post my 1007 iron dragon drops with no dlegs, shield halves, meds and only 1 skirt? :P

I personally couldn't care less about those. It's their choice and that's it. If you seriously like some ingame player, rs marriage could be the first step to something more serious. Some of us still remember the case "Pugxsi + Jenstarr". I've personally never even had an rs gf, but I keep all my doors open and don't judge rs. No1 knows were you find your true love...

My yellow phat. Worked ages to get it, it looks good and gets attention. No reason not to like it :P

Detecting the right number from a spinning 3d model isn't that easy. It's a lot harder than detecting letters with a few pixel difference. I don't know how mysterious box for example is detected, but I can swear it's not guessing the right answer. Why? Because there's 1/3 odds to get it right at the first one and the more often you fail to answer, the lesser odds you got to complete it. As the odds are under 50% even at the beginning, it can't be just guessed. If it was, it would stop over 67% of current autoers. Jagex already tried this kind of an answer in RSC and it was called fatigue. In it you gained a certain amount of fatigue from training and every time you had gained 5k xp, you had to sleep the fatigue away or you got no xp. In sleeping you used a sleeping bag and then it showed a word which you had to retype. This worked for a while, but after few months there was already many ways to get away with it -> legit players suffered and autoers didn't mind, so it was removed from rsc. If Jagex now introduced a same kind of a system, there would be bots that are able to pass it in a week max.