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Quick paint in painter and in corelphotopaint. As you can see, not the most serious work. My main goal was to learn some things about painter, and learn I did! So was not worried about the outcome. Made this one into sig size!

This post is precisely why this kind of a thread is necessarty. a. it shows that some will in fact decide not to pirate once they understand the issues b. it shows that no program will make you a graphics great anyway. And ryan, yeah if they upgraded and you go the old one...lucky you! That is just fine.

Nice! International brand I take it? Anyway, I have to work on mine still...not sure if I will get to it.

a. It is not legal to mutil load on to more than one machine. The dongle is a hardware insurance policy. That is why companies buy liscenses for individual machines. Now on the other hand, while most companies want you to buy one copy for each machine, I have actually seen in print before (been a while, forget where) from a big name company that they are not OVERLY concerned if you load word on both your laptop and your home machine for instance. Not that they particularly want it, and of course I think most remember Microsoft's rollout of windows xp where they limited use to one ocmputer. They also started individual processor id's to enforce such things. But to load a copy of your friends onto yours...that is a different story. As far as bringing home a program...probably also no legal...unless he simply didn't use it at work anymore...then why not. As for not stopping them...no, probably can't stop them. But you can kick them off of boards where they promote it. At least then maybe some others won't feel emboldened by their example.

So if I were to promote race riots or illicit pictures of children on this board it would be fine, as long as I don't actually participate? I don't think so. And before someone complains, no they are not on the same level. It was hyperbole to prove a point. I do not think this board wants to be associated with copyright infringement. You just said in your previous post Ryan that it was a. morally wrong b. legally wrong c. You think it is fine anyway, it is like an extended trial. Why would they have you check the little contract box on the trial programs and agree to only use them for 30 days if they felt it were fine to just steal them and use them whenever? What you are encouraing people to do not only breaks the law, but as Keiphus and sub pointed out, it is also a security risk. As Keiphus also pointed out they usually don't enforce it, because it is too hard to enforce every little infraction and would be too costly in the end. But everyonce in a while a company turns the tables, sends a notice to those they have proof against, and lets you spend the money to defend yourself. Then they put you on the news and make you their poster child. Why would tip want you all suggesting illegal downloads from what are usually insecure sites? In fact in rule 7 they say not to use copyrighted material etc. I am sure they also would not approve of people openly suggesting downloading programs. This is not the first time this has come up. And in fact it is not the first time that people have openly encouraged this kind of thing. It is pathetic. At least if you are going to steal then have the decency to slink into your hole and not admit it. And if you don't steal but endorse it, then how are you any better?

That is commendable. Promoting illegal activity even if you don't do it is not commendable.

I don't believe I have anything illegal on my computer. And I have used filesharing--to back up my tapes to cd....a LEGAL use. Of course now that I posted that you will change your argument. The facts are there is not one legitimate reason to use something illegaly. You do it because you just don't care. I would love to have some nice new programs. But I won't until I can afford them. The argument that it is just for fun, non money making ventures is not valid either. When companies want you to use their software in that way they make a LEARNING version such as Lightwave, or whichever it was that did that. Your excuses boil down to: a. everyone is doing it (there are people that throw heavy blunt objects at each other's crotches for entertainment such as on that [developmentally delayed]ed mtv show...you going to do that too? Everyone does it doesn't prove anything other than there are a lot of people breaking the law.) b. ah well, they won't catch me, or won't do anything..(never know, sometimes these folks get ticked like the satelite tv group that started charging huge fines for piraters, or the recording label folks that sent teens a huge bill. The rta ones were disputed, but I heard quite a few ppl wated money defending the satellite one, or finally just gave up and paid out, or cut a deal. ) c. I don't care what people think (I am sure you don't, but then I hope you don't mind if we don't care what you think either) d. Intellectual property rights don't matter (great, then I will rip all of your sigs, art work ,etc. for my own personal use. No whining later now). Those are valid reasons to break the law? I don't think so. In general we are becoming a society that doesn't understand a. Delayed gratification b. Ethics c. the value of other people. The reason? Because we are too permissive in my book. I hope the mods boot the people from this board who are actually PROMOTING illegal activity.

wouldn't one know if they did or did not have a digitial camera? :) New topic! Anything on a farm...

It is not a matter of "I won't get caught". It is a matter of ethics, self respect. I still use cheap 3rd version down the line now products from corel just because i can't afford ps etc. They work fine. In fact, you can get painter for 30 bucks on ebay and even in version 7 it owns ps for painting (though not other editing functions of course) Gimp is gettting more than decent. I have even posted a free vector program in the past, free animation studios etc. You can use open canvas for painting and it even has event files so people can watch your style of drawing. There is no reason to pirate. All of these comments are justifications to make yourself feel better. And for all of you who someday want to have a career in art, who whine when your art is ripped, you ought to take copyright law more seriously. If Adobe's intellectual property is fair game, then so is yours.

It sounds as though something may be in the works...but may be a bit. This is an unnoficial pronouncement.

Thanks sub for clarifying the issues. It was not until after the DAG closed and I stumbled onto the elite graphics forum that I realized how strongly some people were offended by the dag. They were crushed that they didn't get in. Now I know, this is life, it is bound to happen. But just because life sucks doesn't mean we have to. I would like to not have ANY requirements to get in. Besides, we are all attention hounds, who would exclaim over our work? Now a real problem will be cross posting. Some will want twice the attention and post whatever it is in both...that would be bad....

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I am not sure if I will have a chance to do another work later today or not. But I spent TONS of time just trying to get these goofy feet right today for this final version of my day one entry. Final:

I think it is not too bad :) I don't mind the green. I would tone down the outlines on the figures. Try to cut them out a bit more. Also the animation does need some work. Or since it is over the limit, maybe just elminate it. Overall pretty decent :) Unfortunately you will find that when the first couple ppl post a bad review, it is often downhill from there :(

Not bad :) For a challenge next time try to eliminate the few really dark outlines and go more for shapes. Good work all...keep em comin' [/u]

Finally, I am done. No more versions, even if ppl find bunches wrong. I like how it came out in the end :) thanks for all the tips here and at cg talk.

looks pretty decent to me! The point is not how it compares to everyone else. The point is can you see yourself getting better!

Funny you should mention that :) I just started working on the ... a. thigh b. face contours c. wings....though I haven't done the skin tone, but that is a fantastic idea! thanks!

Well I figured I was not really into this piece, no reason to continue...but one of the great artists over at cg talk convinced me to work on, so I will continue.

final version posted, not spending anymore time on this one.

Would have done more with this but had to go to the hospital to see someone I knew. Painter 7, I needed the practice!

doh...just posted my work for the daily sketch in the wrong spot :oops:

yeah, room for crits, daily sketch threads, tutorials on brushing, whatever! It would be a great mid level art haven where there would actually be TRAFFIC.

Glad we are getting more submissions! Keep practicising folks. I really doubt they want a guy who bought their 2 versions back software for 60 bucks on ebay.....or their 2 versions old painter for 35 bucks to be advertising for them. They want one of those crazies who buys the newest everything. Of course, Corel just bought jasc's paintshop pro...so there is a big question what will happen next.

a. yes photos count...I mentioned the daily photo thread. b. Actually it was never a seperate board for the official smg or dag. Tip won't advertise for a group they have no control over and which might or might not be insecure. It was a tip usergroup. c. That is not to say there were not other off scape attempts...dabu4u (I think he has a rune fansite now with a media board), elite graphics, um,.....I forget the other one we all went to for a bit....er....it will eventually come to me.... But in general those fail to get the numbers. As for people posting large wallpaper size sig-like creations....yeah, could happen. Not sure that can be helped, but at least the shops, contests, fake pics, "I saw zezima in game" etc. posts are out.