Vulxai

"Urns collect food scraps while you are cooking" You don't cook dairy.

Out of curiosity, has any compiled a rough list of the runes needed (or a cost - with a mud staff) to get enough points to unlock all the spells?

Don't get a godsword. There are many better alternatives (many prefer the whip).

Gathering skills really aren't great for money. Just level up your skills and when you need money, go pick Fungus, or make unf pots. Get your combats up and start to bosshunt, which is where money is at.

At that level wildy, they have to be pretty close to youre level, right? At least that's how it was before it was originally removed.

They're are board moderators (such as the Tavern, and Clans).

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You're considering spending 20m less to sacrifice 26k more bones?

Nope, wasn't referring to you in the first part of my post. Sorry if that put you off. To answer your question, it's a matter of attitude. What are you here on the forums for. If you aren't here to give or receive advice, or to do research, I don't hate you but there's not much space for you on the forums. We're trying to get work done. If someone comes into your office to talk about something completely unrelated, as a manager I'd think it's perfectly reasonable to ask that person to leave the premises. Opinions that further discussion are and should be distinguishable from opinions that have nothing to do with metagaming. For example: CLS vs rapier. "I think CLS might be better because its slower attack time allows SS flashing to be easier" (wrong, but still in the vein of finding out what weapon is actually best) versus, CLS vs rapier. "I think CLS is better because it looks cooler and has a better attack animation" (wrong, but discusses something totally unrelated) Obviously a user wouldn't be banned for the latter comment. I'd just keep it in mind and observe over time. No worries, I was just making sure, as I didn't think it was towards myself. I completely understand (being a manager at the store I work with). I agree that if they aren't into metagaming, they shouldn't be giving advice in that forum, and could be asked to do so. If they aren't actually asking a question in the efforts to learn, and are stern about that latter comment, they should be asked to leave.

Trolling = intentionally bothering someone else for your own amusement which is different than genuinely having a different opinion Yeah and I think a global clause like that would be unfair. But that's not what I'm pushing for. Just to clarify if you were talking to me in the first part or not, I don't know why the bans were made, so I can't say whether or not they were justified (Levon's on the other hand was, but that was on his own part, and had nothing to do with your group, and I have personally witness Grimy telling him never to do that again). I suppose the differing opinion thing isn't trolling, so basically what you're asking for is a local clause in an efficiency subforum stating what exactly? What would be disrupting, yet not trolling? Someone having a differing opinion would just be a discussion, yes?

The problem, though, is spill-over from other boards and members. As far as I know, they're not trying to split up H&A, and there are a lot of attitudes that I just don't think are constructive for H&A. Also, a problem is picking who to moderate. There's really only one mod here who promotes RS metagaming. A lot of the mods here are fair but they don't really take sides, or are not as active both in game and on the forums as I would like. There are also a few mods that are completely out of touch and have made terrible judgment calls (like all of the recent bannings) that I want NOTHING to do with. I don't think admins would kick those mods out. Another thing is that tip it would never include a clause like "action will be taken against players who are deemed disruptive to the metagaming community". AFAIK the admins don't think that kind of clause is fair. I think it's totally vital for us to select the community that we want. Didn't another mod make a post saying mods can't ban? I'm asking genuinly as being Crew, I know nothing of the Mod side (in fact, I rarely talk with them). As with your subforum, if a poster "disrupts" a metagaming forum, would that not be considered trolling?

Both sides have admitted to making mistakes.

Your own space as in...your own forum?

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Wanted to be appreciated, or immature because he didn't get his own way? Yes...some posts giving insight, most others not. Just because he's given one positive, doesn't mean the 10 negatives are wiped. Don't be silly. If I was the Admins I would have put a stop to their kids game months ago and not let them think they have some hold on the community because of some information they have compiled, I would have sooner told them where to go -- and in a manner that's not so friendly. The reasoning behind wanting his guide taken down is because you don't know a good thing until it's gone. I suppose the thought process was that people take the advice given for granted, and he/we/the rest of the efficient community didn't want that. No one's arguing his guide wasn't a good thing. However that doesn't excuse his behavior in the slightest.

Most users did appreciate the guide, that's why it's obviously in spite. The groups argument was with the staff, the staff is who banned Blade, not the community who USED his guide.

Grimy's sheets were awesome, however Blade was a huge troll. Yes, he did some good work, but his trolling was never ending. Most of his posts I saw were nothing but troll posts. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. But you did agree that he wanted it taken down in spite.

No, it's a certain group (who happen to be efficient) vs. some staff. Your argument is mainly in H&A, and even then it's not always true, as they would flame anyone who gave advice OTHER than their advice (not all of them, but a few of them), even when the other advice was a valid piece of advice for those who aren't seeking 100% efficiency.

It's already been taken down.

That's usually what it was for around me, and that was probably a year or so ago.

Depending on the bully, simply sticking up for yourself is enough. Not all bullies have the ability (for lack of better word) to fight, they just talk a game to be cool, and to get a reaction, and once that reaction stops, they don't know what to do. I've seen this more often than not.

Marrentill. You can either have your house in Yanille, or just do a house teleport. Light, sacrifice, bank, repeat.

That wasn't the problem. Part of it was when some of them (not all) would bash other people for saying anything OTHER than the absolute most efficient (even though not everyone wants that option). The other part was when some of them had ideas that were both reasonable and unreasonable, and debates started happening with the admins, and it just went downhill from there.

I wasn't bullied in school for the reason that I stood up for myself, even if I knew the guy could eat me whole. That is part of the reason I was in the "popular" crowd, you can say. There were less popular kids that didn't like me, and when they took a swing at me, I knocked them down, and got suspended for self-defense (a few occasions through high school). My aunt (who raised me) never punished me as she always told me to defend myself, and that's how I taught my son (who's currently almost 3, and several months ago, a kid was picking on him, so he took him down and put him in a headlock...at 2 years old...).

You can't use the distributive property if you use Pemdas...the first letter of Pemdas is Parenthesis, which would make it 48/2*12... Same answer, just pointing that out.