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I am quite sure it has only 4 combat styles available, of which 2 train attack and 2 train strength. My figures are for without a berserker ring as well. I am quite sure that DFS would be at best equal to the defender. The strength bonuses provided by the Bandos armor as well as the shield, while not insignificant, are unlikely to alter the xp/hr in a way that is unequivocally beyond the reach of statistical fluctuations. I am more interested in the xp without the familiars, since it is a constant term that can be added to any xp/hr reading. Also, while Bandos does indeed provide an attacking edge that proselyte lacks, I am not sure if that warrants its usage over its holier counterpart. ill do a few trips, with and without familiars, using both dfs and rune defender, and both bandos and pros, when i have the time

i hate you right after i logged, so i dont even get lsp

Are you sure +2 str > +19 slash? indeed i am. i have used rune defender there before and THE EXTRA SLASH MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. with super sets, piety and a salve amulet(e) you will amost always be hitting. ive done 2 trips to test this. one with obby shield (+5 str) and rune defender (+5 str and +19 slash) and the exp was only 1k/hr higher for the defender which can simply be down to luck (your never going to hit exactly the same between 2 trips). im sure if i did the test enough time that the split would be 50/50 on which one gets the most exp in the hour the +2 strength will help more. ill test this to prove my hypothesis when i have time and the will to

Thanks, I shall add that Log at the red dot: The main purpose of using the spot is so that your health can get gotten low easily for dharoking. While I have not tested void melee with whip there, I am certain it gives less xp/hr, possible around 100K. i, however, have tested it. i did not use void but i did use a whip and salve (e) and was getting close ot 120k exp/hr, and it is safer than dharoking. its where i trained 97-99 def and 96-99 str(with ss). i dont know how much exp/hr it would be with vk, though. do not use a godsword as it is much slower, only ~90k an hour[/hide] Hmm, is that including the xp from familiars? If not, then it will be better than I expected, and indeed better than other known whip training spots. The greataxe cannot train defence, so a whip has to be used in this aspect. With regard to attack and strength though, I cannot see any method giving this a run for the money. Just a slight note: I am not entirely certain, but I am quite sure that using full melee void is inferior to the standard melee equipment set. yes, the exp is including familiars. however i now have bandos instead of proselyte and better familiars, would you like me to try it again to see how much exp/hour i get? i trained without a berserker ring aswell, which most higher level players have, and a dfs etc, it wouldnt be too much to expect with higher str+ i could get upto 125k, or maybe a little more Rune defender>DFS. And the greataxe can train defence. actually dfs>r def.

normally i would say use rubys, but your summoning does not have chance for a healing familiar, and if no healing fami's, its pretty important to savour your hp. if you think that the extra damage done to the boss will cut enough time from the kill to save yourself ~8 damage from minions and boss, then use ruby. otherwise its a waste of hp.

your attack str def and hp are fine, can be done @ that range level but might be a little slow. if you can, get 90+ range

Thanks, I shall add that Log at the red dot: The main purpose of using the spot is so that your health can get gotten low easily for dharoking. While I have not tested void melee with whip there, I am certain it gives less xp/hr, possible around 100K. i, however, have tested it. i did not use void but i did use a whip and salve (e) and was getting close ot 120k exp/hr, and it is safer than dharoking. its where i trained 97-99 def and 96-99 str(with ss). i dont know how much exp/hr it would be with vk, though. do not use a godsword as it is much slower, only ~90k an hour[/hide] Hmm, is that including the xp from familiars? If not, then it will be better than I expected, and indeed better than other known whip training spots. The greataxe cannot train defence, so a whip has to be used in this aspect. With regard to attack and strength though, I cannot see any method giving this a run for the money. Just a slight note: I am not entirely certain, but I am quite sure that using full melee void is inferior to the standard melee equipment set. yes, the exp is including familiars. however i now have bandos instead of proselyte and better familiars, would you like me to try it again to see how much exp/hour i get? i trained without a berserker ring aswell, which most higher level players have, and a dfs etc, it wouldnt be too much to expect with higher str+ i could get upto 125k, or maybe a little more

and i got the bones. fml

well if he fletched all those bows, then he got exp aswlel so its not a total loss. and 200k of them is a fair bit of exp :P gratz on hat, though. it wont be long before you dump it on ge in hopes of getting your money back

i know its alot faster, but it also costs alot more. id use dag bones but i cant afford to atm

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STOP CRASHING ME!

im australian my first name is alexander except noone -ever- uses that name im 16 i have incredibly low selfesteem i hate the human race in general

i just automatically assumed they were [bleep] and slept with any traveler who passed by

i guess they could be....but its not very fun when they want you to shoot them

I also do, well, sortof. I belive in living creatures outside of this planet, but the chances are that they are not intelligent creatures, at least not enough to create a travelling method that would allow them to reach planet Earth. And for the ghost sort of stuff, I don't belive in that, but I have to admit sometimes, specially when you aren't in your home, walking in the dark is... scary... why do you say that? its implausible that earth is the ONLY planet in existance with intelligent life, and out of the many planets with life in space (i would assume there are multiple, considering how massive it is), it is not hard to believe that there are races smarter than us as for other supernatural stuff, no. So that leaves...? Wait, do zombies count as supernatural? depends what type of zombie. the one thats a semi decomposed corpse that reanimates is supernatural, while the ones that suffer a virus that makes someone have "zombie" style symptoms is not, so long as the person wasnt dead...

Thanks, I shall add that Log at the red dot: The main purpose of using the spot is so that your health can get gotten low easily for dharoking. While I have not tested void melee with whip there, I am certain it gives less xp/hr, possible around 100K. i, however, have tested it. i did not use void but i did use a whip and salve (e) and was getting close ot 120k exp/hr, and it is safer than dharoking. its where i trained 97-99 def and 96-99 str(with ss). i dont know how much exp/hr it would be with vk, though. do not use a godsword as it is much slower, only ~90k an hour

How does 40 mil get 96 summoning? with waterfiends, you can get 96 with 40m easy

ive seen bigger galleries for gwd drops n such, but still, nice claws+hilt :thumbup:

87 <(0.0<)

86 ^_^

wait for me to get 90 now, then we race to 99 mk sparkette?

o nise, gratz. smith is too boring for me :| also, your cool. add me? :P (doesnt want to sound like a screaming fanboy though >_>)

wut

85 :D (i dont take pics because i use a small, seperate window, not sk. without sk screenshots are too much of a hassle)