CWolf2

no offense, but your stats aren't good enough to sell on eBay. You give yourself FAR too much credit.

w00t, construction ftw! So much fun holding people prisoner in your throne room.

20's don't sound that high today, but back then, they were huge numbers for a medium leveled person to be hitting. The funny thing is, I remember seeing like 10 major players being banned that day, it was funnier than anything else you could think of! Then, after they were banned, they posted here about how they were sorry, and how they wouldn't do it again, and how they were only testing it, and weren't abusing it... like hell they weren't. For the entire day, that's all that happened. It's like going to a college on St. Patrick's Day, onnly one thing happens the entire day, and this time it wasn't drinking, it was fighting with knives. Thank god I didn't have any knives on me at that point, everyone was buying them up, and taking them from the spawn on top of the Varrock General Store.

It is not illegal to give items to a friend, then have your friend give those items to a second account, so there is no need to be all sneaky about it. Bzzzzzt. Teh l33st3rz is wrong? Aw man... Rule # 8, multiple login.

I'm wondering when people will realize it's a Swift Switch screenshot, and flip out on him, heh. But yeah, I got the blue, and I'm kind of disappointed. I mean... I wanted it to be bigger, but instead it's like this little doll hat, which is annoying. It also gets bugged up in white dreds, which looks VERY bad. It's not a Pirate hat, it's a Blue Tricorn Hat (or something to that effect).

Note the red bar... she fell. That is the Yanille Duneon (a.k.a. the Agility dungeon). Prayer at the alter, and you have as 50/50 chance of falling through, or having your prayer refreshed.

This will get closed. This goes against rule #12, buying house plans for runescape gp.

What, because he doesn't have 200,000,000 magic xp, he can't be believed? And people call the KKK racist... Oh, and even though I do have ancients, and I have used it hundreds of times, it still isn't that great. I couldn't even hit a guy through green dhides. Granted, when you do it, it's devistating, I do believe it balances out a bit. 1v1 against a melee combatant, and the mage will win 99.9% of the time (given the right equipment, enough runes, and a good enough strategy). It's sick just how many times you can hit a 21 or 22 with level 73 magic...

Jimmy, please explain to me how buying something for a price you know is too low, and then selling for a price you know is too high is not scamming? You're stealing their money basically. Now, I can understand, maybe a difference of a few thousand gp, but buying a party hat for 154m, selling for 156m, that's what I like to call "scamming the other person." Technically, it can be considered item scamming, but there are too many merchanters out there to report. But hey, lets not argue about merchanting, this is a thread about Dragon Chains. Oh, and Jessy, I didn't mean that specifically Torag armor was better, I meant any Barrows armor; be it Torag, Guthan, Verac, what have you, it's better in the long run than a dragon chain. Not to mention that with dueling and verac armor, you can win a lot of money back. But if you had a d chain, it'd be more difficult...

Oh yeah, because you're greedy and you want to show off your ability to scam people, great move, ya swell person. Was that scam part directed at merchanters? Yes, yes it was. And people, you aren't seeing clearly hear. There are two parts to this arguement. The "it looks purty as muh cuzin under de moon lite" arguement, and then there's the "I want to level my stats so I can hump people after they die" arguement. If you're cold cut on your ways of "it looks good," then I really can't change that. Sure! I think it looks great! Do I want one? YES! But I WILL NOT buy one from a scammer, and I refuse to even acknowledge somebody that bought theirs. Buying it proves nothing, getting it as a drop is better. But what you thick skulled people really don't get, is that you are spending near 18.3m, and Nuke_Psychosis, your whole idea of "Dragon Chains don't devalue at a rate of 720k a month" is completely off base, and I suggest you withdraw that comment. You are paying that 720k (if that even) from the 18.3m that you saved by not buying the dragon armor. I don't know about you, but Barrows armor has seemed to hold steady for a good while now, they haven't dropped by 1m yet. And as to the "you'll probably be getting 25-35% in savings" thing, you're still getting 3049.9999995 HOURS of gameplay with that 18.3m you saved by not buying the chain! You are a moron if you want to argue with those facts. You can EASILY max out at least one skill (providing you are at least level 70 defense and maybe 70 attack) with 3049.9999995 hours. Now, that's 127 days, of 24/7 gaming! How often do you see somebody playing 24/7? Never! Okay, then lets break it down some more, so you can get the concept of "you can play for longer," because you don't seem to be understanding it. At 24/7 gaming, you can play for roughly 127 days. Meaning that at 12 hours a day, you can play for 254 days, that's 69.6% of a YEAR!!! Now, most people don't play 12 hours a day (unless your name is n0valyfe), so I'll imagine you play for the 6 hours that people normally say, because they want to make it seem as if they have what they like to refer to as "a life." At 6 hours a day, that means you are getting well over a year of playing time with that 18.3m. Don't tell me it's impossible to get a melee stat to 99 before then, because you simply can't. At 6 hours a day, that's about 508 hours, which is about 139% of a year! That's incredible! That's a whole year, and another 143 days of training!!!! If you want to argue with this, go right ahead, but these are straight up facts, and it's tough to argue with these. And the looks thing? Well, that's your preference, but remember that to get a dragon chain, most people use Barrows armor (Verac) to KQ a chain. Oh, and also, the Torag and Dharok sets are exactly the same (except the Torag Helmet is better by about 2 stat points). The best melee outfit in the game: Full Torag Dragon Shield Whip Barrows Gloves Rune Boots Lava Cape Onyx Amulet There is no contest there.

Even stil Zero, look at my calculations. You would have 3049.999999995 hours of training with a Barrows plate with the 18.3m you'd have left over, that's a LOT of training, a lot more than you would need to max out. And THANK YOU Syko, I appreciate somebody getting my back for once.

Okay, I'm sorry bobby, but this was taken the DAY of the release, just 6 hours after it, actually. Sure, there's PLENTY of time for others to get it, but this was the first one posted here. Why can't you new people be more like we were back in rs1?

I just remembered that I had a picture from the first person to every have the privilage of owning such a piece of armor. This was before Dragon Legs, and before the lava cape. I remember this day clearly, and I personally know that this is the first chain ever aquired (note that it's NOT me!). And to prove it's not fake:

Hmm, lets do the math... Dragon Chain: Retail Price: 19.5m Torag Plate Body: Retail Price: 1.2m (Note: Both of these were found on the RuneScape.com forums just now) That means that you're paying an extra 18.3m to basically... have worse stats at the benefit of not having to pay for repairs? Okay okay, so there HAS to be a reason people would get this! Lets look at it. I mean, repairs seem to be so expensive, they are being portrayed as these huge payments to no one, but... wait a minute, 90k to repair a body? That isn't as much as they make it sound... okay okay, lets brake this down some more! They have to be right in that it's more expensive with the Torag Plate, don't they? 18,300,000 / 90,000 = 203.33333 repairs. So... 203.33333 * 15 (hours) = 3049.999999999995 hours of using Torag (at 90k per repair) So for that 18.3m that you aren't spending on that dragon chain, you could get 127 days worth of training with that torag plate. Wow, Torag does seem like a better option. But wait! It gets better! Thanks to the new POH Workshop, at level 55 Construction, you can cut your repair costs in half! That's right! Now you have 254 days with that armor! But wait, there's more! That's 69.6% of a year! And that's playing 24 hours a day! Wow... so again, why would you want a dragon chain? Oh yeah, because you're greedy and you want to show off your ability to scam people, great move, ya [wagon].

Have you updated this to include the stuff that SAAM has?

Item: Skull F2P Spawn location(s): (1)-Just north of the Mind Alter (north of Falador) there are two skulls (2)-Wizard Tower Basement - in the basement of the tower south of Draynor (used in quest)

When did they become like this? When rs2 was released, plain and simple.

Saam, I must say, I like your POH designer. I like the stats that it gives (VERY helpful), and the ability to turn on and off the room names and prices. Convene, you should add some of these features to yours, it would make it even better (sorry Saam, I'm not trying to push you out, it'd just be a good thing to have everything under one roof if you know what I mean).

Scooby scooby doo, where are you, we've got some work to do now. Oh come on Scooby Doo, I see you, pretending you've got a sliver. That was the best show ever! I love Scoobert! The show originated in the 1980's, and has continued to run to this day (or at least, a few years ago...). It has since been made into several movies, including the latest two staring Freddy Prince Jr. as, well, Freddy. Like, zoiks guys! hahaha

Gotcha. That's fine with me. And how's it going with the buttons there?

Convene, instead of having that whole "copy and paste, then type in this" thing, why not make an html page? Simple and easy... Here's the example (or just use this), but to make one on your own, if you don't know how to already, is rather easy. http://uploads.cwolf2.net/poh.php 1. Create a page named poh.html (you need to be viewing the extensions for this to work). 2. Open that file in WordPad or NotePad (doesn't matter). 3. Copy and paste this code into that page: Download EXE Download ZIP 4. Save the file, and upload it. 5. Edit the first post to lead to this new page. It will get annoying otherwise. And great job on the cost calculator, heh, now try to make it include the commas. Also, I don't think it's possible to build a third floor (correct me if I'm wrong here), so you should remove that one. EDIT: Here's my new house. 20 rooms, and it would cost me 729,500 gp to build, and that's JUST the empty rooms. Now add all those pieces of furnature, and then the xp it'll take getting to the perfect level, and erg, that's a lot of money. Anyways, here's my dream house: Dungeon First Floor Second Floor

Who cares? You guys say Durial is the best guy ever? Then this guy would be your idol. He dropped prices. Jagex didn't like that, so they kicked him, and hundreds others. I kinda wish I had gotten in on it (I had seen him pass me in RS1 when the dupe was actually going on, stupid me...). In other words, those sites are safe, but don't post a topic on it, it's just plain stupid.

VERY nice little tool here. Get the mods to clean up this post, because this is 100% safe. He can't post the correct links because the site censors them. Just follow the directions he stated. Very cool, and I like the "rotate" feature, but the music gets annoying, and I can't tell what the buttons on the top do; I actually cleared my second floor accidentally because of that. Please have like an ALT command or something, heh. Well, here's my house... If only we could have up to 30 rooms, my house would be awesome: First Floor 2nd Floor

It's lonely because people chose not to take the risk that someone will be a moron, and start begging or such. Just go into a f2p world with some rather expensive armor on. Take note of the people around you. The lower levels that walk by without asking you about your armor are generally the nicer ones (or pures). I did that with full Torag, a whip, and a d sq, this one level 40 something started talking to me, so I talked back. He didn't ask about my armor other than commenting on my Rune Boots and how cool they looked, but ever since then we've been great friends. And I find that RuneScape gets boring if you only focus on skills. I'm more social in the game, and that's why I have fun, especially during Construction because I get to show off my house to my friends, and they like all of the cool features in it. In other words: don't turn somebody away because they are a lower level than you; they could be extremely good friends that you just haven't had the chance to meet.

Trying to steal an account isn't wrong? Yikes. And as for the "you can't get a blackmark by calling someone a noob" thing, you could back in RS1. When RS2 came out, a bunch of kids came with it, so they took that word off of the offensive language list. I know a bunch of people who got blackmarks for saying "noob." As for me? 3 years, and not one blackmark! W000! I sent in a message to them questioning why I wasn't a mod yet (because hell, they make level 50 something MAINS into mods, so why not a person that's been playing for 3 years without a single offense to their name?), and they have yet to reply. I'm thinking they deleted that message, as it was almost two weeks ago that I sent that in, haha. Oh well, I've given up hope on that anyways.