Andy

Congratulations to our newest ranked keyer, Ousekeys! Well done and well deserved.

Grats rocked + charlie :thumbup:

I think there might be a set amount of damge you have to hit past to even be rewarded the zerker title. I could be wrong though.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons. I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff But they're affecting your kill rate - affecting your income. How can that not change how you play rs? I just play to have fun. who gives a [cabbage] about kill rate when you're having fun? Well if you find having 0 gp and doing gathering skills fun, go ahead.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons. I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff But they're affecting your kill rate - affecting your income. How can that not change how you play rs?

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

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The rule is that you need at least one DGS rank in it to verify. It does not have to be a 100% DGS floor. You do have to either be keying (for a keyer medal) or get beserker AND battlemage or sharpshooter (for a DPSer medal) to qualify for a medal, though. Does it count if you yourself are the rank? Like say I go with a regular member to 3bo or wherever and find 3 amazing people. Also, rank means wingman/keyer/admin or w/e highest rank is, right? The rank is there to verify the floor if we have any doubts so I'm not sure counting yourself as a rank would work. Up to grimy in the end and yeah it means any rank above the recruit rank.

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Just because it's their own opinion doesn't mean they are right in any way, shape or form.

Good stuff lads :thumbup: Congrats guys, well done on the ranks! On another note, i've set up a thread on TEF for those of you who have been using their spreadsheets to post them at: http://grimy.freeforums.org/post-your-keying-spreadsheets-here-t240.html - if you don't have a spreadsheet set up yet, you can follow the instructions in that thread to do so.

I agree. The 2nd article was utter [cabbage]e and the writer is retired from runescape. Terrible article, self-promotion for a terrible idea of a skill. :thumbdown:

For learning to key you should drop the gt at a gd while you explore somewhere else. It is only once advanced, knowing if its a small path etc or to save your gate that you would carry the gt to the next gd right away. And the players need to be good enough for this as well. Chee's advice was definitely good for starting to key. But yes, I do find I key a lot differently with a good team versus a bad team. I find keying with people I don't trust at all very difficult, such as 3bo'ers. With a great team and wingman the ggs can be moved with you, but like tui said when you're with people you don't really know well, it's better to keep the ggs with the team - atleast that's how I feel when you're not on a good team that you can rely on. With teams like tui/other ranks I can rely on people to not randomly ggs and I can drag the ggs off to another gd/relevant location.

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We also ask questions about the binds/ring tiers to make sure you have properly read the guidelines. The weekly trivia is just a quick way to test if you have read them or not. That's actually the opposite of what you should be doing. Basically the one simple rule I follow is that the ggs should always be near or at the team's location. If you have the ggs on you constantly, people are going to randomly teleport into the wrong section of the map. It makes far more sense for your gatestone to be at the next gd while you run keys, and when the team's path denks you should bring the ggs to the new gd - Basically, you want to keep the team constantly active. This is why having a wingman is always a good idea. With a good wingman, you can open all 3 doors and check the map for the most important path that's not a gd - you run down that path and send the wingman to lead the team down another path. If you're not dging with a wingman or someone you can rely on to lead the team while you key, just run the ggs to the first gd in those 3 paths and go run the other 2. Same as above, you shouldn't be keeping the ggs in your inventory unless there are no gds where the ggs is currently located.

Losing games is trolling. Thought that was obvious enough. Don't waste effort responding to him.

I was responding to will_h's suggestion and yours. I'll talk to obtuarian to see what he thinks about your suggestion when he's online.

OR how about people read the guidelines carefully enough to see the part that says you will be quizzed? It's not necessarily in our interest to make it easier to pass the extremely simple test of reading an entire post- if an applicant's attention span is too short for that task, we have reason to be extremely dubious of their ability to learn to dungeoneer. We aren't looking to accept every idiot into the chat- we need thick skinned players who want to always be improving at dungeoneering by way of listening to what people tell them. If the first thing they're told is read the guidelines and they FAIL... that's not a good sign. This kind of filtering has become much more important since we show up near the top of the clan high scores, so if we don't want to start imposing dungeoneering level limits, we NEED a quick way to weed out the idiots, and this is it. I'm sorry that your friend was hit by our filter, but the solution to that is to improve your friend rather than relax our filters. I appreciate that there does need to be some kind of filter to make sure people have read the guidelines, but that's not the issue. The 'Weekly Trivia' does not look like it's part of the guidelines at all, it looks like it's something put there for fun. How about we do both, I'll ask my friend to read that 'Trivia', and we change that name. I think we've seriously lost our perspective of what newcomers experience, and that's going to damage the clan. In the 4 weeks that the trivia has been used, effigy_man is the only person who has had a problem dealing with it. The system is fine as it is and i'm sure that any other newcomer would disagree with you.

Quoted from the front page: It takes around 20 seconds to read the weekly trivia - not only will you learn something from it, it will help you prove you have actually read the guidelines (which is a problem in the cc like I stated in the post above you.) Yes I see the post in in the Trivia section just bear with me here. From a newcomers point of view (me) I would never think to look in that subscript section before joining the clan. Perhaps "Please read all of the following before joining the chat" above all the subscripts so that new comers would see this and not get confused. Taken into account - i'll see what the other leaders think of it, but you should read the front page anyways. Even if you had simply glanced at the weekly trivia you would have not been kicked for having no proof of reading the guidelines. If we emphasize the weekly trivia as the only thing you need to read to prove you have read the thread (as will_h suggested.) people will just read the weekly trivia and not the guidelines. It's a tough situation but we need a way to filter out the rsofers/people who don't bother reading the guidelines.

Quoted from the front page: It takes around 20 seconds to read the weekly trivia - not only will you learn something from it, it will help you prove you have actually read the guidelines (which is a problem in the cc like I stated in the post above you.)

Re-posting this.

Personally for going from 70-91 herblore in the past 3 days I used super energies to 76, magic potions to 84, then 7k spec rests, 400 antifires and 2k extr atts+extr strs (400 of every other extreme after that.)

Just enter the chat and ask for someone to smith you one, or use "dung smith"