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TIF doesn't really have a very big pking community. You want to know where the pkers are, check out zybez.

How do they not add up? 1 in all members skills And thanks everyone :thumbsup: Haha, thanks for pointing out my stupidity :

I may be missing something, but your skills don't add up :? Regardless, 99 mining is one of the hardest skills 10/10

Paintball is great because size doesn't matter at all. If anything, I guess it makes you a harder target if you are smaller. My sister is a chicken too, she came paintballing with us for the first time and had a blast. The paintballs sting, but really after about 10 seconds you won't even know you were hit

I don't suppose anyone sees an end to the phat rise?

Uh, I read slayer update THIS month and no clue as to when the prayer will be

This with all the combat triangle balancing has me excited, but I doubt it'll be completed for at least another year. Haven't finished reading yet

At 91 range I can get about 100 dragon bones and green d'hides an hour, which is almost 500k an hour? Personally I bring spirit terror bird and super def + range pot at edge before I run there. Costs practically nothing. I use void too

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They may not get life sentences, but they probably aren't going to kill again after over a decade in jail, plus the I would assume the ones that get out before dieing/being incredibly old are those that aren't ruthless killers (example: In a province, I think Alberta, a guy killed his daughter by way of hooking the exhaust through a hose into the car with her in it. She had a condition that basically made her a vegetable IIRC and she was always in pain. He went to jail and got out not too long ago I think. Not exactly a risk to society) . 89% of murderers went to prison, 3% to jail, 7% probation, and 1% "other" in 2004. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/s ... 102tab.htm And check out the mandatory sentences for murder by state: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder#Pun ... _by_states People who receive the death sentence got there because they were found guilty (for the sake of argument, we'll say they ARE guilty), take away the death penalty and it'll just be replaced with life in prison likely and no one has to be killed. Prison breaks are really, really, really not likely. Yeah, they could kill people in jail, but if they're that much of a danger it's likely they'll be locked in their cell for most of the day and not get to interact much, ignoring the fact that OTHER types of offenders kill in jail too. As to whether or not it's worse than death, you can still maintain some socializing and regularity in prison (assuming you aren't a crazy serial killer or super max or whatever). Hell, give them a choice (AFTER psychological tests and a couple years in prison) to stay in jail the rest of their lives or get injected. Then it's voluntary, if they're just going to hang themselves in their cell a little down the line, give them an option. (Although I can't say I agree with this 100% or that it would be a realistic option)

This is another reason to abolish the death penalty Isn't that exactly what my response was directed towards? The justice system (with or without the death penalty) isn't going to be perfect. With the death penalty, there's the chance of false accusations. Without the death penalty, there's the chance that murderers will murder again. I'm on the fence when it comes to this aspect. I said this in the sentences right next to what you quoted. If you take capital punishment away, murderers won't go free. They'll get life sentences

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This is another reason to abolish the death penalty

I went with some friends and family ~2 weeks ago. First game it's me, my sister, my cousin vs my brother, friend, and cousin B. We're set next to each other sort of, and suddenly my sister dropped and grabbed her leg, I just looked at her and laughed how she fell when she got hit (it was her first time, hurt her i guess). So I go to look back to where I thought the other team was, and bam. I drop to the ground. My friend flanked us on my sister's side and shot my in the throat. Was pretty funny. Couple games later I shot my brother in the neck. Then last game my cousin shot my friend about 6 times because he didn't think he hit him, then as my friend fell I saw his arm and shot it. He got Platooned. He had marks for weeks

Throwing knife: Epic. 1hk. More xp. Possibly more skill. Seemingly a large lol factor. it does look cool, and is like a novelty addition to the game. Biggest con I can think of is it replaces grenades, which have the potential to kill multiple people, while knives not so much

You wouldn't happen to be a goon would you?

Post does not = edit Well might as well make use of this post: In an effort to get back to the topic, let's discard the deterrent idea. What other reason is there to keep capital punishment around?

Operant conditioning is the use of consequences to modify the occurrence and form of behavior. How is this irrelevant to the justice system again? Person A kills person B. Person A goes to jail. Person A learns not to kill people or you get sent to jail, person A gets a life sentence. That's the only example I could come up with for your operant conditioning and capital punishment. Ah, so attacking things that you even admitted you cannot decipher is better? I can't decipher it because it's a mess. No punctuation and I have no idea what you are trying to say Yes you did: So you're telling me that you don't like stats (which are just murder rates, which are going to be very consistent no matter WHO conducts the study) because it is able to back people's statements up while the other side has none. from you: The thing I dislike the most about statistics is that they barely allow room for arguing against. That's why I phrased it in the form of a question, if I were sure what you were trying to say I would have phrased it differently. Please, correct me on what you really meant, because I still have no clue I have. You just chose not to read them. How ironic. Wasn't that like the first thing you said to me on this thread? You have derailed into getting hung up on straw man this and statistics aren't reliable that. You're getting off the topic of CP Obviously there were statistics that prove the validity of operant conditioning or else it wouldn't exist. I found out about operant conditioning in my Psychology textbook. The theory was proved with statistics about a rat's box (Skinner Box or something I think). I do not have my textbook anymore so I thought it would be more efficient to give you a link. I know the Skinner box, I know operant and classical, it was a major topic in my class. Perhaps I should clarify: I know operant conditioning is you know, NOT bs, but tell me how it relates to capital punishment. How is it relevant? Give me examples and studies or some kind of proof backing it up in capital punishment. Because to me it just seems you wanted to fit operant conditioning SOMEWHERE, but I don't see it as being anywhere near the realm of relevant in this topic. ^After that operant thing, can we please get back to the topic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning If you want to get into semantics, it's technically not operant conditioning, but I believe terms like this should be used flexibly to get points across better. To sum it up, if you know you will get shocked if you push a button, you'll most likely stop pushing it. If you know you will get candy if you push a button, you'll most likely keep pushing it. It makes logical sense, because you see it everyday. It's a simple and universal concept. Why are people afraid of messing with bees? Well, people don't like getting stung and bees are known to sting, therefore people would prefer to stay away from bees. If you can't decipher them, then why don't you ask me to clarify instead of responding to something you're not even sure that I said? There's a perfect solution to this. Stop strawmanning and people won't say you are. I agree that strawman is cliched, but complaining about it is cliched too now. I know what operant conditioning is, I've taken psychology and am some what minoring in it right now in university. That said, I don't think operant conditioning has any room in this argument Because asking you to decipher them will likely result in more that i cannot decipher, so then, please decipher what I quoted originally (about the murderers getting free and such) I am not straw manning, I am taking common viewpoints from people who support CP (never said these were coming from your mouth) and trying to offer a reason as to why they are wrong. Instead of repeatedly posting about me straw manning, try coming up with an argument that refutes what I say or show me why I am wrong, you know, contribute something to this. E: The wiki link isn't a statistic lmao, it's just an explanation of what operant is. How is that a statistic?

When did I ever say I don't have arguments for my side? :? There are your statistics, which make no logical sense. And then there is the argument and statistics that show the validity of operant conditioning - you are more likely to do things if they offer a good reward, and less likely to do things if they offer a harsh consequence - which makes a lot of logical sense. Show me these statistics please. Conditioning doesn't mean jack, because for that to happen people have to have had punishment or negative reinforcement. If you haven't gone to jail that isn't going to be there. Also what was said above, alot of murders are committed in the heat of the moment with no forethought to the consequences. Oh, and how do the statistics (which you haven't even presented) show the validity of your argument when I've already posted one that shows it's BS? When did I ever say that either? You really need to stop with the strawmans. My point is that neither system is perfect. Sometimes people will be released or escape and go around murdering again, which is very bad. And sometimes people will get the death penalty even though they were innocent, which is very bad too. Neither sounds any better than the other. A) I assumed that is what you meant, because half the time I cannot decipher your posts. 2) You tip iters need to stop throwing the word strawman and logical phallacy around like it's going out of style. Give me an argument I hate arguing this stuff with people who have no idea on how the CJ system works or any knowledge on the ideas around the CJ system e: thanks for bringing up another good point I was going to get to. The criminal justice system will always be flawed, which is another very good reason to keep ultimate punishments away. If I were innocent I'd rather get sentenced to 25 to life and have the chance of being exonerated than be executed and be exonerated posthumous. Some innocent people will always be sentenced, so to have the death penalty is a bad idea

So you're telling me that you don't like stats (which are just murder rates, which are going to be very consistent no matter WHO conducts the study) because it is able to back people's statements up while the other side has none. On the study; I never implied causation, and it's kind of absurd that you drew that from what I posted. I'm saying that for people who are adamant that capital punishment is a deterrent, the stats show that this is false. I'm showing a lack of causation if anything for those who say it is a deterrent which would imply that CP states have lower murder rates, but they do not. (Even though the burden of proof is on people who say it is a deterrent's) So you're telling me that when you kill an innocent person you just go "oh [cabbage], my bad, guess I learned from this!"? There are over ONE HUNDRED known people that have been put on death row, INNOCENT people. As for the eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth thing (libs): That isn't justice, that is revenge/retribution. That is not what the criminal justice system is supposed to do. Let's say a person gets drunk, leaves her friend's house and thinks she is ok to drive, gets in the car, and then hits someone and severs their spine/paralyzes them. You are telling me then that you would be fine with severing her (driver's) spine in the name of "justice"?

Not even Russia has the death penalty. Only developed nations I see on there that do are Japan, Singapore, and USA Care to explain this a different way? I have no idea what you are trying to say. Also RE one of your comments, prison isn't supposed to be about warehousing criminals, it's supposed to focus on rehabilitation (where America fails hard) and yes, punish them so they know not to do it, not vengeance 135 people. Woop woop Death penalty assumes absolute guilt without any chance of an innocent being executed, and a fair and ballanced judge and jury. The jury can have prejudices and make needlessly harsh decisions. The Judge may be a strict law-of-the-land type [wagon], or bat[cabbage] insane, or Believing that law is only decided by god. *Judge DeWeese, Richland county

I did this for 89 - 91 and I think I got around 100k exp with SC coifs, I haven't been in a couple months though so that might be a little low

So what do you do after you execute someone and new evidence comes up that proves you did not do it? You just took an innocent life and ruined the lives of his/her family

Americans have caused far, far, far more deaths