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Economically for it, Morally against it. If people could handle it, then I'd consider it to be an okay concept to legalize. But unfortuantly, there will always be [wagon]es ruining it for everyone else. I'm strictly against legalization. I'm sure most of OT knows this by now.

I get payed $8 an hour, but only on weekends. I'm still in school, so that takes up a good chunk of my time on its own. Is it worth looking for a second job so I can work the occasional weekday, or should I handle school and the one job as is? The one job is exhausitng, but I could use the money.

well, if you ever need some advice/tips/help/guidance/shoulder to cry on...you know where to find us :D

A) he's not her boyfriend yet, but he will probably get upset by it [YES] B. I agree, getting hickey's is kinda "eh" C) Giving hickey's is kinda "eh" D) Really really rough sex = accidental hickeys

Had sex with my ex again. [oops?] It's gonna be funny as hell seeing her try to explain that massive hickey on her neck to her new guy :lol: She told me she's seeing him tomorow, and normally that would bug the [cabbage] outta me to the point of ruining my day. But...didn't even phase me this time. I think I'm good. She attempted to friend zone me [literally the words out of her mouth were "I think we'd make great friends"] but...I think we can all see how that ended up. Great friends indeed. I need to find out that other chicks number before I run myself into more trouble, lol

Great call though XD Sucks, but he's a rock star. Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't succumbed to syphallis after hosting Rock of Love. Hope the best for him, of course. (was it Poison that once said "only the good die young" or is that someone else?)

my vote goes to marriage insurance, as a "just in case". But I would never in a million years say "hey, lets get a prenup". Because that can only start trouble. if she suggests it though? I'm down.

I give rsauto's weekend two thumbsup, good work buddy ;) Working 17 hours in a weekend is freakin exhausting. how do people do this every week? Sorry if my post frequency slips a bit. Works' bust

maybe he's just Canadian?

As long as you retain the ability to stand up for yourself and say "no" every now and then, you aren't being 'too nice" which, can in fact happen.

Is it wrong that I noticed SteveMiddle's cod piece before his COD piece?

Story particulars: Wen to a friends' birthday. He's a chill guy, and one of his good friends is also a close buddy of mine, so we all get along pretty well. The 'birthday boy' is in a band, so he had his band there playing, and he had a few people from his youth group, as well as some neighborhood kids. Fine. But there were a hand full of girls there. 1, his sister [too young], 2 her friend [to young], 3 my neighbor [no interest], 4, her friend [no interest], 5, youth group girl [close buddy's ex], and 6 youth group girl's older sister [my age, and pretty attractive]. So naturally, I went with the girl my age. I tried flirting with her a little, but she wasn't very receptive. She laughed at me when i was trying to be funny, but we didn't really "click". Her sister was cool, but being my friends, ex, and the fact that she had a boyfriend I was kinda "eh" about her. Flirted with her anyway...but no results. Then #4 came into play. I causally grabbed her by the waist and started quoting a "Whose Line is it anyway" drinking song. She knew the words. It was like the angels smiled down on me and said "here ya go". So I took her by the hand, and sat her down by the bond fire and got her talking. This is where it gets pimp. I was subcnciously and naturally pulling all sorts of PUA [cabbage]. And honestly, it came off more as ADD then "player" which I think worked to my advantage. i'd hold her hand, lean in for a kiss, the jump up, rip my shirt off and hug my buddy. I'd through a flirty line in the direction of #6 here and there to keep everyone on their toes. But this one kid was like freakin herpes. I was talking to #4, and he literally just jumped on both of us and said you guys make a good couch. Then as soon as I left my position, he weaseld his way in. Props to him for knowing what he was doing, but god damn it was annoying. It was no isolated incident, either. Lords honestly, he was flirting with all the girls more than I was [and being younger than me, it was okay]. I think I won in the end though. i got to drive her (#4) home :D So, I'm feeling good. I got a job. I have a female interest... Life ain't half bad.

Score! Can I put some extra points up in my infrastructure? in my hometown of Luxembourg, of course.

Haha, please. I live in a city with the self-proclaimed most churches per capita, top 3 STD rates in the nation, and a university recognized with its own form of chlamydia - Raider Rash. Just because someone's religious doesn't mean they aren't a person. You're less likely to be [bleep]ing a girl the night you meet her, but she'll feel the exact same feelings. Just interpret them differently. Exemplified to prove your case is an exception. In other news, step 3 complete. Found new lady at party tonight. Strange story. I was goig for one girl, but she was giving me the cold shoulder, while another one happen to be sitting right next to me, who was much more open. We talked a bit, held some hands and rubbed some thighs. Got her anme and her address, but no phone number, and she doens't have a facebook. This will prove interesing...

pick up tactics do not work well on conservative girls. Good thing we live in such a liberal nation. First day of work today. On my 3 hour break, before slaving for again for god knows how long. It's mundane, but it's alright. All guy staff though :thumbsdown:

Props to Silverion, the father and the holy spirit :thumbup:

no skin off my nose if it doesn't. Girls like that reject guys like 5 times a day. I got nothing to lose, I wouldn't care if I were number 6. And what if it works? Then what? Then I look like the friggin' man. That's what. Still want to build myself a bit before I try anything though. Get my situation a bit more stable emotionally and financially. Hell, even physically i could use some work. I can't remember the last time I picked up my weight set. Let's get to work, boys You really shouldn't try to hit on girls with that attitude. Be confident, trust your abilities. And if you're already going to try and hit on her, better try something with higher success rates, not something that could work and could easily not. EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I just totally figured out why you keep coming to that torturing girl. You're afraid you wouldn't find something better, and tell yourself that you already have that here and there's no reason to go look outside, and then back it up with execuses like "The sex is good, so why not?" Ofcourse I could easily just be wrong, but it seems reasonable ATM. nah, you're not too far off. It's been ingrained in my head that you shouldn't give up on good chemistry. So, I've often found my justification for fighting for her in "no one could possibly have this sort of connection with me, she loves me, i love her, and I will never feel like this about anyone else, and I know she feels the same". Sex is great, yeah. but that comes from that special very strange bond we share. it's like nothing else. And if you can't take my word for it, even if she has cheated on me...14 or 15 times now, she still comes back to me, sayng that I was the best and strongest connection she'd ever had. now I know you guys'll say "you can't trust her in that statement" but honestly...you don't know her like I do. She means it. Why does she continue to cheat anyway? Well I don't know. But in our latest fight, she told me that I was in love with the girl I met 4 years ago, not the girl she is today. Considering, the girl she is today has slept with other guys, cheated on me constantly and predictably, has mental breakdowns, and is sometimes downright scary....maybe it is time for me to just let go. I still have strong feelings for her, but she's found a new guy, so it's time i grew and changed some on my own. I promise with god as my witness, I will never have a relationship with anyone, like I did with her.

no skin off my nose if it doesn't. Girls like that reject guys like 5 times a day. I got nothing to lose, I wouldn't care if I were number 6. And what if it works? Then what? Then I look like the friggin' man. That's what. Still want to build myself a bit before I try anything though. Get my situation a bit more stable emotionally and financially. Hell, even physically i could use some work. I can't remember the last time I picked up my weight set. Let's get to work, boys :)

I barely ever sweat, so I nice bath in Axe body spray works fine for me, fresh outta the shower. Kilo is my fave :thumbup:

Post pics, we'll make ourselves useful. yes sir :salute: In other news, step 2 has been completed. I walked into a country club wearing a suit, and I got hired on the spot. I was in the middle of filling out an application, and the manager guy walks up, shakes my hand and told me to come in tomorow morning for training. Sweet deal. And for this new job, I had to buy some new clothes for work atire. Went to the clothing store 'round the corner, and saw this mega-hottie working the register. Y'know how when you see someone you like, things kind of slow down and that stereotypical angelic crap starts going on in the background? yeah. And it was suddenly broken by her asking me "can I have your number". I stumbled a bit, but gave it to her. I wish it was as pimp as it sounds, she only needed it for credit card information. But I'm gonna try going back there soon, a little more prepared and give a nice "only if I can have yours" as a retort. See how that works out. She's the first girl to get my attention like that in a VERY long time. Exciting. :D

here's the progression of my youtubing for the past hour Linkin Park -> Dead By Sunrise -> Dead By April -> Sonic Syndicate Not sure how that happened. Thank god someone typo'd on a comment, leading to Dead by April. Helped me discover two new awesome bands [and no, it sounds nothing like Linkin Park]

i actually kind of like that idea, muggi. Similiar to what i was originally going for, but taking it in a slightly different direction. As for the cube? I'll try it just to see what I can do, but honestly I don't feel natural using it, which puts me at a disadvantage from the start. I feel like palm readings would be the way to go [hand to hand touching is a plus, while still giving the idea that you know them]

[hide=The Cube Explained]The cube game is a cold reading technique. By asking a few questions you are able to give the impression you have a deep understanding of a girl. The cube game builds rapport. I've run the Cube on several women, and it's never failed to amaze them. Usually it gives a good approximate idea of the person. Very efficient. Good fun too. The Game Prepare your victim (the girl) by building up the game. Ask her if she's sure she wants to do this, tell her she may find out things about herself that she doesn't want to know. You can then start to ask the questions; for her part she should give you as much detail as she can. Imagine this simple picture with just three things in it: the sky, the horizon and the desert. In this picture imagine a cube, where is it ? What is it made of ? How big is it ? Now add a ladder, where is it ? What is it made of ? How big is it ? How many rungs are there ? Where is it in relation to the cube ? Add some flowers to the picture, how many are there ? What kind ?, where are they in relation to the cube and the ladder ? Add a horse to the picture, where is it ? What color is it ? What is it doing ? How many rungs, where is it in relation to everything else ? There's a storm in the picture. Where is it ?, Which way is it proceeding ? What kind of storm ? How big is it ? Interpreting the Results The Cube - Is how the girl views herself. The Color of the Cube -> http://www.pick-up-a...ube-vt1509.html [click] The Ladder - Friends and family. The Flowers - Children in her life. The Horse - Her lover or ideal lover. The Storm - Troubles in her life. The questions should be asked in the correct order (Cube, Ladder, Flowers, Horse, Storm). Interpret the picture in that order after she has finished answering all the questions. You interpret the questions individually and their relationship with the other pieces of the picture. The possible interpretations below are just examples, you may adjust these to fit in with what you already know about the girl. They are fairly vague and could almost apply to anyone. The Cube - Herself Small cube - feels small, ignored. On the ground - well grounded. In the sky - imaginative, un-realistic. Far away - feels left behind. Transparent - purity. The Ladder - Friends Many rungs - many friends. Few rungs - few close friends. Far away from cube - keeps her friends at arms length. Ladder bigger than cube - feels small in her social circle. Ladder against cube - keeps her friends close. The Flowers - Children Number of flowers - number of children she wants to have around. Flowers far away - does not want children. Flowers close to cube - Feels very close to the children she has or will have. Beautiful flowers - finds children very beautiful. The Horse - Lover Strong, large horse - She likes protective strong men. Horse far away - Ideal man far away. Weak horse - Envisions being stuck with a weak man. Horse with flowers - Ideal man loves children. The Storm - Trouble Storm in distance - troubles are far away. Storm close - going through hard times now. Small storm - no real troubles in life. Here are a few examples of how to impress the girls just telling them true things and adding some cold reading (if you don't know what is call reading or you want to learn more send me a pm asking). XFman: Okay girl lets play a game. HB10: sure Xfman: Okay close your eyes think you are in a desert (highway forest any place will work. ) Now you see a cube, How big is ? How tall ? Is it flying ? laying on the ground? How far is from your perspective? HB: is really big and tall is flying, about 2mts from ground and is like 4mts away from me. (Answer: how big or tall is the size of her ego, flying or in the ground is how she think , she has a lot of imagination or she think more logical. how far is the cube form her is how close or far she is with her inner self) *Note: Check how Im going to add some extra details about the girl by using some cold reading lines. Xfman: Wow, Lets see. Your cube is big and tall, that is the size of your ego, so you have a big ego but you see yourself as a nice person, you always try to be positive but sometimes you feel down when bad things happen, Then; your cube is flying that means you are a creative person you are a thinker, not always but you like to imagine , I bet that sometimes when you go out with a boy, you start thinking how the date is going to be, And i can forgot, I also bet that you have all ready thought how your wedding is going to be. Now you told me that your cube is far fro you that is because sometimes you feel away from your inner you, you have doubts about what to do, sometimes you might feel insecure. She might be impressed or she might think that is just [cabbage] but who cares she will want you to tell her more about her. That is just a variation of the cube I just made out , in this link you can have the basic and try to add more of your own just think logical on what the description can mean. And just a quick plus: tell her to describe the outside part of the cube and the inside part of the cube (the texture , etc... ) The outside part is the way she acts, the person she tries to be or appear to others and the inside is the really way she is. Most of the time they will say the outside is hard and the inside is soft and smooth so you can just say , you try to be hard , but in the inside you still have your feelings, or when you meet someone is hard to this new person to learn about this really you but once a person is inside and start learning about your real you , he don't want to leave. Good luck any question just send me a PM. ------------------------------- this is the end of the post----------------------- But if you want to learn more of the cube routine read this: Ask the questions in the proper order (Cube, ladder, flowers, horse, storm - in that order); interpret the picture in the same order, and only AFTER she has imagined the entire picture (all five pieces mentioned above). Heck, you might even hold on to some of it to ensure a followup encounter. ("I need to think more about some of the features of your horse. Will let you know when I have an interpretation that I feel makes sense."). Some here on ASF may disagree with some of the interpretations, but that's okay; I think if an interpretation makes sense to me, it is probably correct. There are two components to the interpretation of each of the five pieces: the piece in itself, and its relation to the other pieces as well as the overall picture. The sizes and positions of various things are RELATIVE to one another and to the overall scene of the desert. Moreover, the interpretations are not according to some rigid law, they are just ways to make sense out of the woman's imagined picture, but that is the best part because as far as we are concerned here in ASF, that flexibility allows us to interpret things in a way that helps the seduction (a negative interpretation is a neg-hit! You can include small negative inperpretations whenever necessary, while generally giving a reasonably sensible interpretation overall). 1. THE CUBE: Represents the woman's conception of herself. A huge cube covering most of the scenery (Field of View or FOV) means she's got an inflated ego, a sense of high self-importance. Other features of the cube could mean: Tiny cube => feels small, insignificant, ignored, modest Cube resting on the ground => generally has a firm foothold on reality Cube far away in the distance => Feels left behind by life Cube flying in the air or levitated => daydreamer, imaginative but unrealistic Cube partly above the horizon line => ambitious Cube below the horizon => not very ambitious Cube resting on its edge => metastable life, perhaps? Cube made of solid material => good sense of self-worth, well-grounded personality Cube made of gold => Thinks of herself as extremely precious Cube made of glass or transparent cube => Considers herself pure Cube full of slimy stuff => Hates herself completely Cube hollow inside => feels hollow, unfulfilled in the extreme [interesting example: one woman know very well imagined the Rubic's cube, being twisted and turned by a child. I was not surprised because she has a sever persecution complex and total paranoia, considers everyone else stupid and childish (has a holier-than-thou mentality), feels attacked by the world, and is an emotional basketcase] 2. THE LADDER: Represents her close social support structure (friends; family in some cases). Long ladder with many rungs => big social circle, has many friends, outgoing personality, sociable Ladder made of some odd material => feels her friends are weird, very different from normal people Ladder with few rungs => has few close friends Ladder in a less than good condition => believes people around her are [bleep]ed up Ladder far away from the cube => Does not let people get too close to herself; keeps aloof, has a hard shell around herself Ladder leaning against cube => Feels she does a lot of things for her friends, supports them more than they support her, feels she has some codependent people around her Ladder on top of cube => Feels her friends/family are overbearing, feels oppressed by them Ladder much bigger than cube => feels small in her social circle Ladder supporting cube (like, ladder under the cube) => feels her close associates support her in her accomplishments Strong ladder => is surrounded by strong people, feels secure in them Burned up ladder => Feels surrounded by totally [bleep]ed up people who are ruining themselves 3. THE FLOWERS: Represent the place of children in her life. Number of flowers => children she has or wants to have, or has/wants to have around (See * below) Flowers close to cube => Feels very close to the children she has or will have Flowers far away => Does not want children Flowers blooming well => Feels positive about her children's lives Flowers messed up => is surrounded by screwed up children * Lots of flowers everywhere => Probably works with children, or would like to; (One chick I know had this; she is a grade school teacher) Flowers shaking in the wind => feels children in her life have hardships Flowers all around/over the cube => Feels overwhelmed by kids Flowers separated from cube by the ladder => feels her friends/family (do/will/might) interfere in her relationship with her children Beautiful flowers (roses, poppy etc) => Finds children very beautiful 4. THE HORSE: Represents her thoughts about her lover (or the lover she thinks she wants or will have). Strong, large horse => Wants a protective, strong man Color of horse => Possibly the race of the lover she wants (the teacher chick mentioned above has a "latin thing" - her horse was brown) Horse close to the cube => Wants the lover to be very close to her emotionally and physically Horse well separated from cube => Is reserved about opening up completely to lovers Horse licking/sniffing the cube => Imagines/wishes she's being doted on Small, submissive horse => Wants a lover she can dominate Wild horse => wants a guy who is not tamed and will not be tamed Tethered horse => Wants to keep him very restrained/restricted Horse stomping on the cube => Has been or feels extremely abused by lovers Horse destroying the flowers => Feels the lover will not be good towards her children (single moms probably have this thing more often) Horse messing with the ladder => Conflict between her lover and her friends Horse far away or walking away => Feels abandoned Horse separated from flowers by the cube => feels she will have to take care of the children and manage her lover's relationship with them Weak horse => envisions being (stuck?) with a wimp [example: one chick I know had a horse running around in a confined arena. She is a controlling, limit-setting type chick who likes to watch her man react to her experiments with his emotions/behavior.] 5. THE STORM: Represents her ideas about troubles in life. Storm in the distance => Troubles are not overwhelming her presently Storm approaching => Fears crises in future Storm receding => Has had troubles recently but feels they are over Huge, dominant storm => Feels her life is in deep [cabbage] Storm in the distance, passing away affecting none of the other four things in the scenery => Feels her life is relatively trouble-free, has few problems around in her life. Small storm => Feels secure about problems she will face [/hide] Honestly, that sounds like the biggest load of malarky I've ever heard. And I can't think of a single girl around here that would stick around long enough to hear you spit out such hoo-haa. Takes too much of an attention span. Plus, if someone else has already used this routine on her, you just look like a tool. I'm not going with the cube...there's gotta be something else.

okay...guess I lost Germany then. But I still should have Belgium? Whatever.

was "the cube" the corny magic trick, or am I thinking of something else? Also, as far as the pulling the the one girl away, that works fine I'm sure, but seeing as how that's not a natural motion from me, I wouldn't naturally know where to go with it, which causes issues. It depends what mood I'm in, I think. If I'm in a fun and light hearted mood, I function socially much much better. Maybe in the right mood in the right moment I could go somewhere with it. But it seems to iffy. As for making friends? there's nothing wrong with it at all. In fact it was an over use of Lent's "command the party" theory. I commanded attention, but aparently didn't come off with enough atraction value. Nothing wrong with making friends, and if I happen to make friends along the way - great, but that's not my priority at the moment. ...I think I'm going to have to toy with my fashion a bit. it's been a while since I updated my clothing