thing is their teams average 11 mins while trying to get 9 min maps, not getting a lucky map that coulda been 8 mins w/ a hero team and doing it in 11 min 50 seconds no, the fastest bullseyes team has ever done a warp is also 11 minutes, and this couldnt have been completed more than 30 seconds faster, since we all were suiciding averagin 11 minutes on f15s inst hard, but id like to see bullseye average 11 minute warps, seeing as thats the fastest hes ever done one himself wat.. hes had like 20 10 min warps just 0 <10 even i was w/ him for a 10 min 50 second warp L he's not gonna upload the same floor time 20x i wish hed have uploaded that sub 10 occ he did, but i still cant wait to see the first ever sub 10 warp, weather its him, or me and these guys with a real lucky floor You can hardly say that "oh theirs is a lucky layout", if they had the same layout as you did an exact duplicate of that 11:50 what's to say theirs wouldn't be 2 minutes faster? there skills are superior as they are far more experienced. It's very easy to make excuses, there may be a time where you match their times but the sad truth is it would have been done before. Honestly I have a list of around 8 Dgers I would take in a permanent team, those 5 in that occult are all in there plus Kennny, Hammy and Mz_Scorpio those to me are the true legends on Dungeoneering and everybody else trys to emulate them. Nice pissing contest we have here.