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Some of those actually look quite nice \ Imo I love the panda outfit.

Exactly. They still need resources, but they're finite, An once-time aids cure isn't finite? Do you know the reason they were denied treatment? Half were because they did not have the insurance to cover it, and certainly not the cash in hand. Saving one patient with a high-risk operation that cost thousands ultimately takes away from budget. That budget, could perhaps be used to better the hospital to save other with lower risk operations needed. 5 for 1? It is most certainly a factor in many cases. People [in Africa] have been taught of the dangers of HIV/AIDS. Taking away the risk could ultimately cause outbreaks far worse than we see today of rape crimes. Again, another variable. Last time I read about a rape in the newspaper, the rapist didn't care about his victim. Any medicine has the potential to create resistant strains, it's still survival of the fittest, even at cellular level. In short, we should not use ANY medicine because it'll cause resistance? I think we should educate people about birth control instead of making more people die.

10 million people that cannot work due to their HIV and the medical treatments they need aren't free either. I could say the very same about America. I quote: Very capable system :? How does the 'Aids cure -> more women raped' mechanism work? I don't think rapists care about the diseases they pass on to those women. The tbc medicine does not create resistant viruses if used correctly. I think we should keep that argument for when a cure is actually found and we know how it works. You also have not once mentioned the ethical aspect of this issue #-o. But it's 1 am so I figure it'd be the best to sleep.

Charity. In 2007, an estimated 33.2 million people lived with the disease worldwide, and it killed an estimated 2.1 million people, including 330,000 children. Source: wikipedia.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS Say the aids cure costs $300 per person(assuming the person who invents in doesn't want to make too much money with it). 33.3 million*300=100 billion. That is indeed a lot of money. Say we finance it in a period of 10 years, then that is 10 billion a year. It can be done( but I'm aware that it is a buttload of money, lol).

Deer and people are two very different subjects. You can't go toying around with people like you would with deer, can you? Denying them an aids medicine wouldnt?

[hide=Wikipedia]Omission is, in Catholic teaching, the failure to do something one can and ought to do. If this happens advertently and freely a sin is committed. The degree of guilt incurred by an omission is measured like that attaching to sins of commission, by the dignity of the virtue and the magnitude of the precept to which the omission is opposed as well as the amount of deliberation. In Roman Catholic moral theology, a mortal sin, as distinct from a venial sin, must meet all of the following conditions: 1. its subject must be a grave (or serious) matter; 2. it must be committed with full knowledge, both of the sin and of the gravity of the offense (though nobody is deemed to be ignorant of the moral law, embedded into the consciences of every human being); 3. it must be committed with deliberate and complete consent, enough for it to have been a personal decision to commit the sin.[/hide] I don't really understand the first one(author is a bit vague), but she is still saying that no aids cure -> millions of people dying > Aids cure saving millions of people. (No offence Laura) And since you are talking about churches, since when does the church like that? Ignoring the point that most poor Africans(usually those with aids) most likely will not be able to afford said medicines, Them starving from death is something completely different than dying from aids. Not everyone with aids 'is gonna die of hunger' and viceversa. Improved agriculture techniques and genetically modified plants can increase the food production too. A lot of the farming is still in the state it was like in the Middle Ages.

Go ahead and explain.

Someone doesn't know the difference between a sin of omission and a mortal sin. BACK TO CHURCH. [Medical care is never denied with the intent to kill... in fact, if a patient in dire need shows up at a hospital, by law the hospital can't turn them away. So... where are you going with this?] I am going at: But let's drop the genocide discussion and go back to the topic.

[hide=] Please explain so this doesn't seem so disgusting. Are you joking? Why am I joking? While I'm sure all of us here would love to save millions of people with a cure, it has effects other than so. Most of the virus is in third world countries, who have enough trouble feeding, housing, and supporting its own people. "Saving" 20 million people will only worsen this, causing even more suffering, loss of jobs, housing space, and competition for resources and food. And even then, they would continue to have unprotected sex, as there is a less of a consequence, increasing population. Why would you want them to suffer even more? It's called a carrying capacity, and many countries are con their way to reaching it. Pretty much what Hitler said. There's a fine line between not saving people because of their actions, or actions of others and killing people. Perhaps you would like to enlighten me to my own genocidistic ways? [/hide] Denying a group of people medical care with the intent to kill them is essentially the same as genocide. Definition of genocide: Article 2 In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (B) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Source: http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/p_genoci.htm

Please say that is not a footbal stadion. Ga Feyenoord steunen ipv van psv man -.-

Please explain so this doesn't seem so disgusting. Are you joking? Why am I joking? While I'm sure all of us here would love to save millions of people with a cure, it has effects other than so. Most of the virus is in third world countries, who have enough trouble feeding, housing, and supporting its own people. "Saving" 20 million people will only worsen this, causing even more suffering, loss of jobs, housing space, and competition for resources and food. And even then, they would continue to have unprotected sex, as there is a less of a consequence, increasing population. Why would you want them to suffer even more? It's called a carrying capacity, and many countries are con their way to reaching it. Pretty much what Hitler said.

One person would make a bastard load of money. I think people will do less safe sex because it will take one risk down.

Yeah pity they are worthless. Still, the level is nice to have. :) 85 slayer is even more disappointing :oops: almost 94 slayer, only 3 whips yet :cry: I got a dark bow after 15 kills , guess it compensates for my bad whip luck. Have fun killing abbies anyway.

You can just use it as a ko weapon...that way you won't have to wear it for the whole fight. But again, im p2p so idc :thumbsup:

There already is a crapload of teles to there :roll:

Maybe you pk at the wrong spots ;)

Hard task; kill a skeletal wyvern, mine an adamant ore, smith something on dorics anvil, easy task; kill a white knight :-#

Idiot. 40 defence isn't THAT hard to get.

Nice, get up the lvl 1s though :thumbsup:

My bet is that they wanted to adjust it to 160k but accidentely added a zero.

Grats. Make them all purple \

Account sharing?

Nice, never knew you were so close :P Have fun with the cape, and that sig does indeed look awesome :thumbsup:

pvp has a chance of dropping whips lol. I would remove the firemaking skill.

Learnt me to stay calm and realise that person is just another idiot when someone's insulting me.