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for producers, yes. for actually making money off skills, which has a giant disadvantage over boss hunting atm, f2p hurts the members economy. imagine if a p2p player who skills could make 1,000 gp off of a gold ore instead of 400gp. it would re-stimulate skilling. not to mention hinder those skills that are out of control easy(cooking, fletching) it would be great for the p2p economy if f2p didn't exist

Rational maths for the win. You're actually right - if Jagex updated every week for a year (52 weeks), then that stands to reason that Freeplay would get 3 or 4 updates a year, which is accurate. what about the advert ont eh front page? and btw look at the player numbers members (probably) ~1.2m free ~5-6m you can see how much more it costs to add an update for 7m players than it does for 1.2m

Again, see the part about negative context, and why "freeloaders" is the wrong word. And that's not even what I was meaning. I was only that he's sterotyping every f2per into a noob and a beggar, not that we're not freeloaders. At the beginning, I anknowledged that may be true, but it really doesn't matter. As I. They said "expirence" but that could mean combat level, total level, total expirience, game hours, pretty much anything. My guess would be either game hours or total expirence, but who knows. =/ can you quote where he said "noob and a beggar"? i didn'y see that anywhere. i suppose i'm just kinda sour bc i player f2p for 4 months w/o any updates then transfered to members like a normal person would do, not taking pride out of being "f2p 4 leif!!1!!" ...seriously what is the glory in making your own life harder if it doesn't better anyone else? thats like getting a job then forcing the boss to use the money you would earn to wipe his own [wagon] and throw it away, just so you can have a harder life and be p00r 4 lief :wall: . no glory in f2p

\ yes! apparently i am a "no-lifer" because he can't type english correctly in any sense. and btw walking if you don't want us reading or replying to your posts. THEN DON'T POST! it's the internet once it is posted it is there for the world to see whether you like it of not. unspam-(notice it isn't just a smilie) really old bob... just notice i'm poor'er now than i was then :wall:

read it again.

that'd be pretty neat :pray: Although, why in the world would saradominist want to wake up zaros...(even if its to wake up zamorak, wouldn't it be better to wake up say Guthix, or call saradomin himself?) yes! lets have sara followers let loose the most powerfull being ever! of course he will be so grateful that he will kill our enemies and not harm us one bit! [/sarcasm] seriously that is pathetic

but the kite is the sexiest part

where is the off topic. it is talking about the f2p forums through most of this thread.

Nope, but it's a business I'm paying to deliver me the highest quality content possible, not to treat as many people as fairly and equally as possible. If that was what I wanted, I'd give $5 a month to my favorite charity. Wait a minute. High-level F2P getting the RSOF is suddenly taking content away from you? It's suddenly making Jagex invest less time, effort, and money into Members? Are you kidding me? I suppose if you really hated the change, the best way you could voice your disapproval is to start giving that money to a charity. At least the charity will be happy... did you even read that they are hiring new workers to control the new intake? or the fact that they need to make it possible to let f2p in. they have to deliberate the cut-off etc. etc. you think that that doesn't take any a) time B) money c) effort that could be used to better the paying players game?

So what? You mean nothing to Jagex. They are a company, with the ONLY goal of making money. You cost them money, your an annoyance they have to put up with in hopes that you'll start paying. they are "potental" money, i mean look at twitter. they generate no revenue and yet they have investers dumping millions into it. that is because in the future it will profit. ot: i think they need to add this for p2p too(the total xp thing) also btw f2p deserves nothing. they are lucky to have such a large f2p game as it is oh and btw i love the thing about the p2p'ers being the little 12 year olds who wine. had a nice lol at that(you do know that p2p actually pays right. and when you have money it usualy means you are older than those who don't(highlights usualy so i don't get bombarded))

This may be the upgrade year, but damn it's looking good for quests. i cant wait! even though so far they have only done quests for my 2nd least favorit(goblin) and the fremmy one doesn't look that good at all i was hoping for an isles extention. but i'm just glad the elves arn't getting anything soon. i dont like those quests.

well meaning you dont get hit, karils is out of the question as it has the same range bonus as black

level 15. ...wait you dont have rof in f2p. then 30 for smelting steel

lol why? fair enough, bad example, but still, why? chances are they haven't been around long enought to read almost every guide/help and advise

again no offence but i don't suggest you take the advise of people with 1 post to date. also you may just want to train range through slayer and get charms along the way

for those who havent seen it yet. i thought this was pretty sexy

...don't lissen to him first off what you should do is invest in training some stats along with slayer and then invest in doing godwars and dks. i do suggest selling the bplate, i find it to not be worth it till you are in the 50-70m range and you have cash to burn. torags is good for def. also dh is great in some places but poor in others.

well, i'm just kinda randomlyu making money back now. also kinda making my own supplies for sara. killing avans for bars to make bolts then killing statues for tips

throught a tunnle? then a gate that closes after you enter? gl mate

no support. it would take up to much development time and general java space just for a certain group of people. which could be put toward other projects such as skills, quest, bosses etc...

i died at sara :oops: and apparently rune hally protects over v helm. who knew? :wall:

well im glad you had a good day. i died at sara solo and lost 4.1m ...was 1 hit from 6th kill too

thats me after a death at sara. was my best kc ever too! 2 kites, 2 longs, and 1 hally(saved over v helm :wall: ) lost- v helm sara d'hide body 200 ruby and diamond bolts 250k in supplies(or 350k in drops) zammy stole barrows gloves was 1 hit from 6th kill and i accidentaly misclicked toward instead of away(the only time i did this all trip) and she hit a 20 and melee mini hit a 1...i had used all my brews at that point too

idk i hope so. so far 18 recorded kills dry lol

thats fine. i'll just solo bandos