Obtaurian

My big problem with it was that people were doing things that are just totally unacceptable in terms of efficiency. Floors were literally 5-10 minutes longer so that two people could save a death each. That's not good for your exo/h. :( Interesting to hear that w77 teams were fine.

When I'm actively playing, I don't actually think in terms of APM, just speed. AM I GOING FAST ENOUGH?! NO MUST GO FASTER (AKA MUST INCREASE APM)!

This weekend was really terrible overall. Not only do I agree with what you said, but it also seemed like people who are normally good at dungeoneering were in MUST SURVIVE AT ALL COSTS MODE. One of main tenets of DGS is efficiency, and I saw a lot of inefficient survival and floors that were way too long considering the caliber of the teams. Then to echo what you said, we literally had twenty or thirty new applications and I'd wager that maybe two or three of them will be staying in DGS. I had one guy who literally didn't buy a toolkit until the very end of the floor, and only when I saw that he was waiting by a skill door that he couldn't attempt himself. I mean, we normally get maybe two new people a week, which is an alright number that allows us to really put in the time to help them get better, but this weekend was just disappointing. I'm glad everything is back to normal now, and I'm even more glad that the clan chat seems to be more active than ever after the weekend.

There's a disconnect between wanting to learn to dungeoneer and also wanting a relaxed atmosphere. I'm not saying it's impossible or anything, but it's really going to be difficult for someone to learn the intricacies of the skill in groups or clans that have no interest in learning them. And I don't mean 'learn' as in speed floors and superefficiencyclownefficiency - I mean learning very basic strategies and concepts that have applications for everyone, regardless of speed. As far as DGS, I think we've finally perfected our method of teaching, but it won't be completely done for another month or two, I'd say. DGS is definitely an intense environment to learn in because of how fast our average members are, but it's by far the best way to learn, and our members are mostly nice. There's nowhere else where inexperienced dungeoneers have an opportunity to see truly fast floors.

WHAT ABOUT DONGEONEERING

Never dg without obtaurian

Also resource dungeons and jack of all trades if you have it. I highly recommend that you start soloing abnd1 floors (medium) due to their ease. It'll teach you basic things like using your gates efficiently, and the bosses aren't as hard as furnished or frozen bosses. Once you get to around 60 or 70, look for a lower level clan like Dung Mates. It's a step up from 117 due to the clan cohesiveness.

Suicide keying/dungeoneering means not caring about exp. It doesn't mean not caring about dying, however, because dying is not always efficient in terms of floor speed. People who suicide are either focused on floor times or have a leech on the team. It's debatable whether or not suiciding is efficient in terms of xp/h, as there's usually a direct correlation between floor speed and xp/h. After six deaths you stop losing exp, so if you're suiciding and only getting 2-3 deaths, you're more than likely getting better xp/h than someone who tries hard to survive. My recommendation to people is to try your hardest to do faster floors, as it helps build your APM and it teaches you to cope with faster teammates. A nice way to think about it is, the longer the floor goes on, the more chances you have to die. :P The better your APM gets and the better you get at understanding the map/pathing, the better your exp/h will get. You'll naturally start dying less. The goal is to control your deaths so that they're useful to the team.

You should've killed the ranged and mage eyes. :P Your max hit is reduced by 30% for each eye left alive/open. Killing an eye increase Gorger's defense against that style (ie, killing the ranged increases George's defense against ranged). So the way you did, your max hit would've been reduced by 30% while also giving George a defense boost against your melee attacks. If you have 3+ hexes, it's best to kill mage/melee eyes. If you have ragers, kill ranged/mage eyes, let ragers hit a bunch of times, then kill melee eye, too, because the melee boost won't matter with George rager'd. sorry if I explained this poorly. i'm tired.

How is your puzzle knowledge? Like, do you know all of the little tricks to doing them quickly? What about bosses? And you should start keeping a keyer spreadsheet. You'll almost certainly be ready to apply for keyer once you hit 100, I think.

I would love to start with a t10 stormbringer every floor. I've actually suggested it to Jagex multiple times. Alas . . .

son.

Just looking at your stats, you do meet all of DGS' requirements. I recommend that you get 80 strength, but that's about it. Feel free to apply if you're still interested.

Did you try advertising yourself? The clan chat has been extremely active today.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DOUBLE DG EXP.

118 dungeoneering np

Hello my son

...What? I wasn't aware trolls still lurked here. For the designated keyer in a more average team, the plate will benefit you more than a hood.

You finally got the name! <3

MY EARLY TESTING IS THIS WEEKEND AND I DONT HAVE WORK AHAHAHAHAHAAHA YESSSS@@!@!@

Right now I'm leaning towards Sith Assassin, but I want to see the Sith Inquisitor class progression video before I decide for sure. I might even choose Sith Marauder (DUEL WIELDING YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!) I just got granted early testing so I'll let you know what that's like. :P

SO I've been working like 35 hours a week, and I'm going to be registering for classes soon (crossing my fingers). I'm also moving out! That's right, and I'll be moving out alone. Kelsie and I are still together, but I've never actually lived entirely on my own (always with a girlfriend), so that's my next goal in life right now. As for 'Scape, I'm about 19m off 120. I'm going to order SWTOR with my next paycheck, and I've been reading Star Wars books fanatically. I just bought a new one yesterday and I'm halfway through. WOOOOOOOOO! Off to work now. ;(

CODGUY/FISHSCAPE AND DGS FOR LIFE.

They need to expand dungeoneering and give it a purpose beyond 120 and 200m. If they made the finale repeatable with a larger exp bonus than f60 (and it worked exactly like completing a normal floor), that'd be a pretty big step forward in terms of providing more challenge (assuming the final boss - if there is one - is a challenge). Dungeoneering probably has the most potential of any aspect of Runescape. I'm looking forward to the proposed changes, but I don't think it'll be enough. I'm almost certainly going to be playing SWTOR far more often than Runescape.

Easily one of the coolest outfits I've ever seen. You look like a Sith Lord. NOMAD IS A SITH LORD.