Lenticular_J

Yeah, make sure your headset is on and plugged in (unless you're wireless, then make sure it's working), and make sure your options are turned on in-game.

THATS QUITE SOME STORY! What kind of moron brings weed on the bus and gets caught? lol. Well sucks for him. I'm sure he paid good money for that suff. But that's what he gets for being a moron. Haha, this kid I know smoke weed just about every day during lunch. He's a funny bucko.

That is a good way to put it. Like gravity. Okay, blu, want some crazy views? Let's pull a 2001: A Space Odyssey up in this ma'. Evolution is artificial. Man-apes three million years ago were taught how to use tools by aliens, actually creating what we know now as evolution. And there will be a stone that tells these aliens we're good at spacing when we dig up the moon. ^_^

Don't have much to speak of on this thread, to be totally honest with you. One of many nutjobs on the internets, but this one got more media attention, or was a little bit crazier.

Those of you that don't hunt probably prefer cats more easily. Dogs are so much help hunting. And they're so ready to be active and jump around and play. I can never get cats to do more than claw me. Although to be honest, cats are funnier, just because they do stupider things, while acting dignified.

That's the essence of faith! You have stated before you want logic and facts to prove faith. That isn't faith. That's science. What you want is a scientific God that can be proved with experiments and numbers, instead of the God I believe in, who is a God of faith and the unexplained. You could even say God is the mystery I find in the universe that I can't find in science, which breaks it down into numbers and theories. Call me romantic, but that is no way I would want to look at life. That's more of leaning on machines instead of humanity, which is completely fallible. And that's the beauty of it. Our imperfections. However, hey, if you like to look at everything logically and predictably, go ahead. I just prefer mystery. That's the exact thing I feel, only as I said, it's frustrating because you want the opposite. You want theists to explain what we believe is unexplainable, and that that is the beauty in it. I don't think anybody has said that in the past ten pages, though I may be wrong. That's just an oversimplification. I find it just as ridiculous to want everything explained, obvious, and logical. I believe in humans evolving via our own means, relying solely on technological means - which I think is quite plausible of an idea. Like Teilhard's theories, about evolving via things like Empathy to the Godhead. While I don't believe exactly what he believed, I do believe humanity can evolve to something resembling God's own perfection, and that's the point. But, hey, maybe I'm write in the theory, but wrong in how we're supposed to get there. That isn't even close to overly dramatic. Another complete oversimplification and showing how you don't understand what faith is to those of us who have it. I don't mean that in a rude way, but you don't. Yep. And I'm tired of trying to respond to quite petty insults, so go ahead.

You guys should read the Cantos by Dan Simmons; four great sci-fi books. They aren't exactly the most realistic takes on physics and the like, but some very interesting, if deep, views about the dimensions of the world. It's really hard to truly grasp the series, though - tons of symbolism and references to John Keats (in particular; other authors and poets did show up), who I think was a very, very difficult poet to read.

2001: A Space Odyssey. Can't believe I haven't read this yet :

I know I should have calmed down, but I was tired of trying to explain faith to them. Faith isn't feeble ground to those who truly have it; and they do want some sort of data proving God, which just is impossible. God is faith, in a sense. We actually all agreed to disagree a few pages and a month or so ago, but someone brought this page back up from page five or so. :?

To be honest, you sound like a lot of kids my age. Freshmen. Desperate for sex. If the girls where you are are anything like the ones around here, you'll be in a two-week relationship, and if she isn't a virgin, you'll have sex. Probably several times. High school is the place to go when you don't want long term relationships. A lot of the girls and, of course, all of us guys, are immature and intrigued by sex and how forbidden and oooh and aaah it is. Even though if you put sex on a pedestal, you'll end up very, very disappointed. And stop watching porn. Nothin' like it. Anyways, just go out with a damn girl if you like her and see where it leads. Don't pester her with the idea of sex. Relationships are friendships, only you probably don't stick your tongue down your friends' throats. And you won't be in a relationship, judging merely from your post. You'll hang out with her at school, feel either awkward or comfortable, and go on occasional dates. That's what most relationships are for us in high school. So, really, don't sweat crap like that, of all things.

Yeah, I don't really believe in street racing where you're flying down a road filled with other drivers. That's stupid, so many street racers are morons with fancy cars who can't drive for [cabbage] and end up getting killed or killing other people. That being said, I love racing. If I could race around on the streets (not my town's, I'd catch air every four feet) without other people being around or racing just another person, that would be fun.

I thought you meant actual cat and dog people. That would be awesome. But would they have thumps or paws? Meh. I prefer dogs.

This is the question I would like answered as well. However, I've simply been told I don't understand faith and been passed by. Stay on topic, theists. I'd like to see a well-reasoned debate out of you. How about some evidence? FAITH HAS NO LOGIC. FAITH IS NOT REASON. NO HOLY TEXT CAN TEACH YOU TRUE FAITH. AAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH, you can't complain about something you don't. Under. Stand. It isn't faith if God reaches down and says "Hey guys, stop arguing. I'm listening." It's a fact, not faith. Faith IS blind! That's the entire point. Believing in something greater than yourself, even without definite proof. I don't give a damn if you want to convert, to be honest, I could care less about organized religion completely. I care only about faith, mainly my own faith in God and His Son, and defending it. You think atheists provide "well-reasoned" arguments? NOBODY DOES. PERIOD. It's God and faith! >_< I sigh. Faith cannot be expressed to someone with no concept of faith. It's hard to explain, and you'll probably throw a fit calling me "another typical theist", but if you don't understand the concept of faith, I truly doubt you ever will. There aren't examples for faith. Faith is not a rational, hypothesized experiment. Nobody can prove it to you. People will try. But you won't understand it. It's teaching a bird to use a hammer. The occasional one may be able to grasp it, but eventually they drop it. Plus, they have no use for it. Atheists aren't people who understand faith. Many so-called religious people actually have no idea what their faith is, but have it all the same. Even some religious folks operate like atheists, requiring facts and data for whatever they do. I hate debating about theocratic things, or even over the existence of God, because neither side can work. Atheists want facts. They could care less about faith, most just want to be right in some way or another, and have facts. Most theists can only provide their faith, which is one of the purest things imaginable. Have you ever held a young infant in your arms? That sparkle in their eyes. It's faith in you. They can't even form a thought, and they don't even know what you're doing, but they have faith that you will protect them. Faith will never be explainable. EVER.

I'm guessing you got the game? How is it? Can you only play as Matias or can you choose between the others? You get a choice, and some different outfits too. Chris (Chriss?) looks a lot older now, though, and Jennifer looks more Asian. A bit lamer on the puns and [wagon]-kicking lingo, though.

It most certainly does. What if I started debating with you, say, evolution, and all I knew was that people evolved from something else? Would you expect my arguments to be fully credited and reasonable? Okay, I apologize, then. (First part) Once again, back to, "Thank God for protecting us from something worse." Faith isn't blind for us that are guided by God. And again you prove you don't understand faith.

I don't get why people avoid eye contact. Here in my [cabbage]-hole of a town, people don't, but I hate this town, so there. Back in the motherland...city...town...Everyone would make contact and say "How d'ya do?" regardless of whether or not you know their names. And women didn't take every damn word you say to them as an invitation to spank you. My day was okay.

Argh. I'm stuck, and can't figure out what to do next.

People who talk (type) like this in a debate and expect to be taken seriously. You just proved you don't even understand the slightest bit about the concept of faith. I'm sorry I've been quite short with you and your posts lately, True. You just act like atheism is some sort of magical pedestal of greatness and us theists should be scrabbling for a word of your wisdom. So, yeah, I apologize. There's a reason you aren't taken particularly seriously when you speak of the Bible. 1. You haven't read the entire thing. 2. You're (apparently) terribly biased in your readings and interpretations of it. In my few translations of the Koran, many of the Islamic-only parts befuddle me completely. But, I wouldn't even try to bring up the Koran in a debate against a Muslim. It doesn't mean you have to, either. And there's a difference between criticizing and insulting. It isn't like I can respond either, what am I to say: "I lol'd when I heard about scientific method." ? Also, edit: Tried to fix quotes. Sorry if anyone saw them all jacked up.

At least we aren't debating the Mormon Bible. (Book of the Church of Latter Day Saints, whatever -_-) That is some of the most confusing stuff I've ever read. Using the fact that there's bad in the world in an attempt to destroy faith, then when a theist uses the fact that a lot worse could have happened, calling it a worthless argument. Now, that wasn't directed at you. Your arguments are quite mild-tempered, and I don't think you've ever even used that in them - something quite rare in this thread...

Theme park enthusiast who lives in England? Ouch. You need a country fair. Riding a ferris wheel put up in 3 hours is the best thing. Ever.

Scripture or faith, actually. Both are concepts they use as their "proof". Although flipflop, Holy Bible's different from the Old Testament. Old Testament is actually the Torah nowadays.

[garden tool]-[garden tool]-hold on. You're criticizing (nearly) the exact same rationalization that has been used numerous times in this thread to "prove" God doesn't exist? And atheist committing a complete hypocrisy? Madness! You have no debating value in your post whatsoever. You don't know [cabbage] about Christianity; you're categorizing over two dozen very varied sects into one base that did not even comprise early Christianity. Since I can't try to insult atheism, as you'll counter it with "You're a stupid hypocrite!", I'll just leave it at this.

Stop arguing about it, butt faces. The game rocks. Anyone have it with Live and wanna cause some wanton destruction of everything but my pretty bases that I use for work?

Maaaaaaaaaan, we don't have a Mervyns.

Debut? What's that? Meh, my "super sweet" 16 will be the possibility of paying for half of a car and a tank of gas for me and my friends to drive around town in. I should get into the spoiled kids business. There are a lotta richies at my school. My eighteenth birthday is far ahead, but I'll probably still be celebrating graduation.