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According to Runewiki you can only get some of these drops while wearing the ROW, but I dont believe thats correct. Keep it coming though guys :thumbsup:

has anybody tried off-slayer task monsters? most these drops are coming from tasks im seeing.

hmm not quite. Im trying to show that although the ROW does improve the chances of getting a rare drop... The odds of getting an uncut gem vs a dchain/rare are still the same. Maybe went a little over board on the examples.

Today Jagex updated the ring of wealth (obviously) but the question is; what drop chances does it improve? Before this update nobody was sure if it really helped your chances at better loot or if it was just a "lucky charm" as Jagex puts it. Now with the update we see messages telling us when it works but were still left wondering what drops it actually improves our chances of getting. Another thing people are discovering is some new high value drops that include noted yew logs, coal and rune bars with a net worth ranging from 500k-2m. So what exactly does the ROW do and how does it involve these new drops? The first thing I want to do is to break this thread into two parts; the Ring of wealth and the Rare drops list. The Ring of Wealth: From this quote from Jagex we have three things to consider: -Rare items -Common drops -Bonus items Rare items: Rare items such as dragon chains, abby whips, and visages. This seems pretty obvious but what seems to be the question is if this is a different category than the bonus items (see below). Common drops: Herbs, Runes, food drops, etc drops are all occasionally improved. From what ive noticed after killing some dust devils, ankou skeles and chaos druids is that these drops really arent effected that much. Bonus items: I think this kind of goes with the Rare Items drops but this is where im wondering whats been updated. I imagine these new noted drops of yews, coal, etc are part of this category. So the question is, how often does the ROW help you gain a drop from this category? In the past Jagex has compared the effects of the ROW to playing roulette. So lets say that every time you kill a monster, you have a chance for your ROW to help you get either a Rare drop, a Common drop, or a Bonus Item. Since your drops arent actually based off an imaginary roulette wheel, im going to try and explain it in how the math behind your drops could work: Every time you kill a monster, the computer produces a random number to decide what drop you get. This is called Random Integers. In my example itll roll a number between 1-1000. So of those 1000 numbers; Without ROW 500/1000 numbers give you coins 400/1000 numbers gives you a common drop 100/1000 numbers gives you a rare/bonus item With ROW 375/1000 numbers give you coins 425/1000 numbers gives you a common drop 200/1000 numbers gives you a rare/bonus item So obviously thats just showing that the ROW increases your chances of getting a rare/bonus item. Most of you should probably know that already. But whats worth considering is that the ROW increases your drop chances by a flat rate %. So whether your fighting fire giants or the KBD, the increase from your ROW will always be the same. keep in mind im pulling these numbers out of nowhere and theyre just there to help create a mental image. So now youve rolled one of the 200 numbers that gives you a rare/bonus item, well done! But now you have to roll again on a different table to decide what you get. Now the computer is going to get you a number 1-1000 to decide what item on the rare/bonus item list you get: This is where it gets tricky, because the ROW doesnt increase your chances of getting a better drop on this one; it only help you get to it. Rare/Bonus Item List: 500/1000 of the numbers will get you an uncut gem drop 300/1000 of the numbers will get you a rune item, half of key, etc 200/1000 of the numbers will get you a bonus item 100/1000 of the numbers will get you a rare drop that is specific to that monster. If you roll a bonus item or a rare drop, itll roll again to decide what you get from those lists. Remember these numbers are all hypothetical examples and I dont pretend to actually know the odds of the drops. But from this theory, the ring only improves the chances of getting onto the next round. Although this does increase the odds of getting a rare/bonus item; the odds of getting a Rare instead of an uncut saphire or a half of key is still the same (unaffected by the ROW itself). Hopefully my theory makes some sense. Sorry if im not explaining things clearly enough; if the way im wording things is confusing please tell me and ill try to rephrase it. Basically what im wondering is; Main question: Whats more important; killing alot of monsters or killing high lvl monsters. -If the ROW helps you get to the Rare/Bonus item round, doesnt killing more monsters as opposed to higher level monsters mean youll get better chances of getting a bonus item drop? Im going to look into this, gunna try cannoning fire giants, greaters, etc and see what I come up with. The New Drops List: Now for the second half of the thread. I want to try to gather a list of all the drops that could be on this list. This would include the noted yew logs, coal, etc. So if youve gotten one please post here saying what drops you got and from what monsters. Maybe even use this log if you want to be an overachiever: If so, did the ROW message go off when you got your drop?: Thanks for reading, -C14

it usually runs out of ammo by shooting the spinos. So no need to worry about it aggroing prime/sup while your maging rex.

They sed to have right click report in RSC and they have it in WoW too. Idk why jagex doesnt make it more like that.

They inject their client into the java part of the game only. Thus, ads, being html, do not appear in their client. Only the box that RS is in is seen on their client. Thats why i think jagex should make an html part to the side of the game to prevent botters. But i think thatd be too difficult for jagex though :S Not sure how you would encorporate it into the game but if they were forced to do some things outside of the java box theyd be stumped. At least for a while...

burst lobs. Using the Burstinglobs CC to get a dp right when u start the triple charm timer, run to waterbirth and just burst the hell out of them :)

Hey NeoCrosby im sorry to hear about your loss. Honestly I hope you do get your account back. For the sake of not getting trolled on by the noobs on these forums though Im going to say I hope they reset your mining to 1 just to make things fair for the sake of the kids who didnt like this "unbanning" idea to begin with. Sounds fair right guys? No need to troll him...

^ somebodies mad he wasted most his childhood getting 99's or not. still i like the idea mere keep up the good work you noob.

FIRST POST WOOOOOO Nice guide Meredith :) love the pictures and fail microsoft paint skills. I wish I could have thought of such a great idea like this. Even if I had, I probably would have been too lazy to make my own thread for it. Id probably force one of my good friends to make it for me. But thats a story for another time \:D/ The idea is PRO. The XP is PRO. The money is PRO. Welcome to the next best way to train range folks. EDIT: love how you had to bleep out your name #-o

Well I figured I should ask your guys' opinion on this before actually doing it. Some friends and I thought itd be fun to play some facebook poker on a tournament table. We wanted to have a side bet using rsgp (a buy-into the tournament using rs cash) just to make it more fun. Is this considered rwt? It seems like it wouldnt be since its just some friends giving each other gold from a bet they had. No real USD $$ or Real Items is being exchanged in the equation. Thoughts? Thanks, C14

yeah that sounds great :) if you can dig up any/all pixel related tut's you can ill try to make a "best of" or something and add my own input to the mix,

Hey Steve, maybe try Gimp? I think some pixelers use that. I made one of NYC one time, its long gone though and its one of the sigs i doubt anybody here saved to their computers. The soccer idea seems way to hard for my skill level :-# but the concert idea peeks my interest and i might get into that soon.

Im with socrates whats the secret to boxing. :P

Tripsis: Yeah the hands bug me. Actually the drawing the human body bugs me; period. especially faces... thats why he's headless atm. But I think the bandos guy is the first sig ill finish. Skull: Thanks man i appreciate it. Pat: <3 glad to see you like your sig. sorry it took so long for me to finish. i get lazy sometimes :x Shiny: Hi, id love to make you a sig, pm me what your looking for and ill what i can do. PS I want to help you guys make the gallery popular again. If i get some time (alot of it) im going to make a tutorial for making pixel sigs. Maybe thatll help.

Hey Gallery folks :) I came back with the return of free trade and wildy and thought id stop by the gallery to see what everyones up to. I know that this section of the forums isnt really for small talk and is more meant for C/C but If the mods dont mind I wanted to see what everybody was up to. Id love to see any new pixel sigs being made recently by new members of the gallery. If pixel sigs are still done around these parts :o PS I lost my "portfolio" of pixel art due to my computer getting a terrible virus :( but i was wondering if anybody here maybe saved them to their computer to refer to when doing their own pixel art :o If you have any made by me id really love it if you posted em here. Also, im going to try to make a few pixel sigs in the near future and give em away so if your interested in a new sig also let me know :o -C14 Heres some teasers of the stuff im going to be working on. Not a big fan of this, thats why im recycling the bandos guy and going to make a new sig with him. Also, i want to move away from rs related pixel sigs too so if you have any good ideas for pixel art let me know :) Feel free to take my WIPS and work on them yourself and even use them as a siggy!! I only ask you post your final product so I can see it <3:

does changing your combat style after every hit help?

wrong, kbot and rsbot were run by americans and europeans where laws actually mean something. most other sites are run over seas (china) and usually have relationships with the RWT sites. Its hard to shut down sites that are run in china. nuff said. as for botting ive never cared much, i guess my logic is people are constantly complaining cutting yews dont make money anymore cause of bots and how its unfair that boss hunters make so much p/hr. News flash you morons: cutting yews is what, 70 wc? That took me maybe 4 days to get. The boss hunters who make 2m+ an hour have 90+ att,str,def,range,mage as well as 70 prayer and 69+ summoning. Those take more time, more money, and more dedication to achieve. Therefore, we deserve to make more money. And so long as the bots are keeping my supplies cheap for me i will continue to boss hunt and make more $$ than the idiots who believed getting 70 wc would make them rich. Lesson to be made from this? Put the rune axe down and go get your cb up, nobodys stopping you from getting stronger, come boss hunt with us, the more the better. Flame on noobs.

Gee Pirate, what good help you gave this guy :rolleyes: It looks a really good for a first pixel attempt man, I would say you kind of shortcutted on the shading though. I would love to help you right at this very minute but I have 2 college tests to take online within the next 4.5 hours but as soon as i finish those i want to help you as much as i can. For shading help please go to my "Free sig" thread, download the sig i offered to everyone and practice shading in the lines (its like coloring irl when you were in kindergarten, but with t3h computer :D) anyways ill be back to help later

Hey man i got a few books for you to check out: -Communist Manifesto -Utopia These suggestions are rediculous, did you not realize there was tuns of manipulation before the ge was introduced? The ge manipulation is childs play compared to what was going on before it. Not to mention your punishments dont exactly fit what a game is all about. If this was directed towards Botters or i dont know... somebody who actually did something worth punishment then sure. But come on.

After Jagex recently taking down one of the biggest botting sites within the last week im suprised theres still problems with them. Dont believe me? Theyve been talking about it in Mod Mmg's chat non stop. Just google the term "Rsbot" and youll see what i mean ;). I dont know if what your seeing is just the last few left over after that but honestly give it a week or two and im sure their botting porgram will be too outdated to use and botters will be be out of the game for a good while.

haha i love it! love his face tbh. oh man its so cartoony haha :)

To be honest, the deadline is until people actually post final versions lol. i can wait til december if nobody is going to participate -.-

What you are suggesting is price manipulation of items for the sole purpose of gain at the expense of others... Something most that post in here are not interested in doing. Either that or you're suggesting something similar, which would just lead to Jagex making them unsellable like with weeds. No def not that kind of thing... I was thinking more along the lines of Summoning pouches or something along those lines. This is how it would work (idk just a thought tbh) Steps: 1)Choose item 2)Manip the price of that item privately with a handful of people 3)Get the price of that item to... X 4)Use that item as "junk" to trade off with rares. That way you get the "street" price of whichever rare you choose and you spent very little time "making" the junk. The reason this is different then a regular merch clan is because they would probably be an item nobody sold to begin with. Im pretty sure this wouldnt be at the expense of others either :x although i might be overlooking something from my own plan lol. Just a thought, i figured people already do this (see Arctic Bears tbh)