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I prefer titan over BoB, since a BoB adds alot of cost. A titan is great, if you can figure out a rhytme. Also, moss titan is cheapest. BTW, just got shard, might stick with void with diamond bolts.

One more note, I am using void melee and range. Is it worth the 900k though?

TBH, you seem to have come out ahead with 16m for fury, zerker, whip and D boots. But common sense would dictate you don't trust PMs, ever, and if you approach it that way, you will be careful.

I currently am not using a shield, as I am using a BGS for my melee weapon. I do not have the crystal bow down to 180k or w/e per charge, and currently use either broad or diamond (e) bolts at TDS. Should I use crystal bow, how much faster is it, and is it worth the cost. Then I could use several spots where the bolts are not gathered by Ava's accumulator, or use my Quest Cape.

Well, count on around 4-5 kills a trip. I get around 10-15 using a titan. I spend around 200k a trip on supplies. In around 150 kills I've gotten two piece, which sold for about 6.2m total. I figure I've spent around 3 mil on supplies total, netting me 3.2 mil profit, after about 15-20 hours at TDS. I have not kept a log, so these figures are very rough. I earn back around 75k in drops from non dragon items a trip, plus around 12 blues and 9 crimson charms.

OK, that makes sense. I would say plan on 25m for 88 summoning, and at least 15 hours or so bursting. I prefer slayer though, as I can't stand bursting. I also wouldn't bother unless you have 35+m in cash already.

Well, most bloggers simple are shooting their fat mouth (or fat something else) off. Best not to take them serious, or let them get to you.

Ya, thats part of the reason I don't use a bob, not worth the added cost. Even though D hally works decent, I think a better setup would be zammy book+whip, although I have yet to try this, with D hally for specs. Maybe give it a try? Book would give extra prayer, and whip would be alot faster. Maybe try another shield too, like falador shield 2 or 3.

Summoning and agility. I used 1 on smithing, and 3 on summoning. 79 summoning rocks.

Combat familiars are never better at under 78 summon unless it is a task you are praying for, such as black demons or mutated velds. I sold guthans, and do not miss it at all. The only reason I will be buying it back is for DKS with Claws of Guthix (after 80 mage) and SGS and titan.

That is my general setup. I last around 12-15 kills with it. I could use a BoB, but that adds about 150k for only a few more kills I found. I like this setup, as it is cheap and still reasonably fast kills.

A bit OT, but what is your TD setup? I use a titan, and without a BOB I can get about 12-15 kills. Maybe try testing out different setups. Also, 1k bursts is about 1m, with barrage being about 1.1-1.3m, in that range. I believe it will cost around 25m to go from 80-88, including seconds.

I use this setup, and get at least 1 kill a trip. One-click tele, 3 p pots tort filled with sharks sara brew and 1 rest hammer and zammy item+bandos item or bandos pool. Rest of invy filled with sharks I wear K top, V skirt, BGS, Fury, ROL, Climbing boots, Quest cape, Barrows gloves.

Attention pl0x? As I see it, this "topic" really has no discussion value. I've lost that much before, and I made it back in a matter of a week or two, maybe less. But if you want to quit, GL IRL.

That guide is out dated. Void is great, and also karil top+V skirt is a better combo, since I find that the range attack seems to hit harder.

A good obby drop every 1.5-2.5 hours is about what it is. That is approx. as it depends on your speed killing too.

You could try joining a MH clan, such as Slayers of Dangerous Beasts, or some other one. We normally have excellent guides, and yes just recently TD wander range has been increased, so most guides will be out of date.

You can also try in PvP worlds during non-peak times. I get 1 pk attempt every hour or two, but still not bad. Just bring 3 items, and 1 extra item worth around 100k. If you get pked, protect item. You are gaining potential, and no revs. Plus it takes under 5 minutes to get back, and alot of times you can get away from pkers and log. Wildy is better until 65, maybe even after.

I would first trying to update java, and then a different browser. I had this problem, and just spam switched between them a few times. That got it working again. Chrome FTW BTW.

I don't know exactly how you are getting those, but I am 99% sure I averaged 108 pts per hour and have gotten 112 pts in an hour (only did a few hours where we didn't lose a game) And I have done a lot of PC to say the least (accum total of somewhere around 30 or 40 thousand points. Yes I am a PC product and enjoyed it to the fullest) Ok, it takes 30 seconds for a portal to come down. 30 seconds in, you have one portal, 1 minute in you have 2 portals, 1 1/2 minutes in you have 3 portals open, and 2 minutes in you have all 4 portals. So you're probably looking at 2 1/2 minutes per game. So that's about 24 games in a minute, which only equal 96 points per hour using the Veteran boat. So how do you get 112 points in one hour? That's less than 2 minutes a game which is impossible. Exactly, and you lose around 1 out of 4 games too, probably more on w 144. But he may have played before shields, I think they were not existant at one time, so faster games.

Actually, you can get around 80 points an hour max. min of 2 mins for a game, and 4 points a win. I got range, than melee, than void mace.

Bad idea. People Pk there, and you can't tele out. I think black demons are decent, but you still run the risk of being PKed. I would bring only prossy, helm of neit, either a glory or a blessed holy symbol, and a god book such as the unholy book. Climbing boots, but make sure that the brawlers are item kept on death; they are worth 50k that way. You aren't risking much if you die, but still have good enough stats. You need to pray, but still bring sharks, just in case. Save your dds spec for pkers too.

For a simple herb run, this is the route I use, and it works well. Invy should be ectophial, explorer ring 3, 2 fire rune, 2 water runes, 5 air runes, and 5 law runes, also 15 pineapple for port phat compost bin if doing allotments. Take from the lepracon 2 super composts, enchanted secaters (and wield them) a spade, and a seed dibbler. Also in invy have 5 herb seeds, 4 limpwort/marigold/whatever else seeds, and enough seeds for 8 allotments. I go in this order. Port phat->Cabbage port->Trollheim->Ardy->Camelot. That way, I end up near a bank, and can bank produce, withdraw an extra 15 pineapples and make another batch of super compost.

If I die at Tds, I will say, "damn, I died, I got to get void back NOW!." That is part of what it is for, not for saying "damn you, you bleep bleep." It is good now, just report noobs like that.

Well, we had the abby demon pet give you a fake whip, so that is possible, but not likely. Not a ship. Maybe a dragon pick, lock a dragon lockpick?