michel555555

I'm in a love hate relation ship with this thread now. On one hand you've gotten me interested in construction again which is the skill I have the most fun in. :thumbup: On the other you've gotten me interested in construction again and now i'm selling my costume room again to pay for it. :thumbdown: I'll post the redesigned picture of my house when i'm done.

So for the aniversary cake, does it dissapear after you do the emote? Or is there no reason to collect multiples?

...What are you talking about? Lots of the old players who are returning are trying to return the market back to how it was pre GE. Which isn't going to happen unless rwt bots return. The only things that will be really effected will be pking gear, bones and herbs. Herbs only if ovl and extremes are let into the wild. Bones will go up because of a decrease in supply from green dragons and increased demand depending on how many pkers want turmoil. Other skill related gear should remain about the same price. There are few enough skillers as is since mhing is so much more proffitable. The only way other skill gear will lower will be if monster drops take a nose dive as well, other wise even fewer people would skill for money.

Might post a picture later but for now, 2nd floor [hide] [1][2] [3][4] [5][2] b- blank 1- costume room 2- bedrooms 3- workshop 4- skill hall 5- study [/hide] main floor [hide] [1][1] [2][3][2] [4][5][6] [7] [8][9][8] [0][m] b- blank 1- combat room 2- quest hall 3- dining room 4-kitchen 5- parlour 6-games room 7-throne room 8-portal room 9- garden/entrance portal 0- alter m- managery [/hide] Still trying to find a good place for managery thats near portal and if they ever raise max rooms i'll put in a third combat room in the north west so i'll have all 3 combat rings. dungeon [hide] [1][2][2][2] [3][2] [3][4][3][2] [3][2] [3] 1- entrance 2- dungeon pits 3- treasure rooms 4- obulett [/hide] dungeon is not complete yet but thats how i plan on it being if they ever raise max rooms. If not then just take out treasure rooms around obulett.

Trying to finish eliet diarys and get 99 slay. probably never finish karamaja diary though because of jad and rc requirement :-|

If Zaros does wage war against Zamorak the only other gods that might aid him would be Scarabas and maby Guthix himself because Juna does say that zaros returning will bring more balance. Scarabas did support him in the past but with the desert pantheon in chaos right now because of the devouerer theres not much the desert pantheon can do. And even then the desert pantheon might be split in its decision. Ikthalrin might feel responcible for the rise of Zamorak as a god the the destruction caused by the god wars so he might side with Zaros. Or he might feel that it was Zaros's fault for stealing the marahajatt from him and so side with Zamorak. The devourerer would either side with Zaros to kill Zamorak, or choose whatever side Ikthalrin is not on to kill him. It all comes down to whether she hates the marahajatt or the god that brought them to the world more. Rest of the pantheon might remain neutral not wanting to start a war with their siblings. If Zaros returns peacefully and Zamorak attacks him then Guthix would side with Zaros. But since Zaros is most likley coming back for revenge its debatable if Guthix would side with him when he wakes up. There might be a few Guthix followers who would side with Zaros anyway. The black guard dwarves would probably join with Zaros to get revenge on the chaos dwarves and dwogres, and the gnomes might side with him agains the khazard. Armadyl might have supported him, either for revenge on the other gods for wiping out the avanasies or for justice for the theft of Zaros's powers, but has to few followers left to actually do anything and so he left Gilenor. Bandos does not have enough power left to interefere in the world since his avatar was destroyed. And without any more ourgs or a leader to lead his lesser followers, they would be a minor annoyance at best. Seren would side with whatever Guthix chooses. However, depending on who the "dark lord" is, if its actually zamorak or one of his followers, then some of the elves would side with Zaros to get revenge. If its something els then Seren would probably remain neutral. Marimbo has no intrest in the affairs of humans. The question then comes down to will Zaros go after Saradomin as well? After all it was a saradomin mage who cast the spell that made it possible for zamorak to sneak the staff close enough so he might be holding a grudge. If he goes after both Saradomin and Zamorak at the same time then things could get interesting. The white and temple knights might not want to side with the kinshra (black knights) and vice versa against Zaros. And lots of Saradomins human followers hold grudges against Zamorak, the mages in the wizards tower hold a grudge against the zamorkian mages who burnt the tower to the ground. The people of varrock have grudges against Zemourgoul and the dagon hai mages. Falador is split between Saradomin and Zamorak over the white and black knights fued. And then there's the whole secret dealings between ardougne and the elves. In short, they are both dead if Zaros goes after both of them. And yet he also had the biggest, most fertile land on gilenor at the time. That implies that he kept his darker minions on a short leash.

Just thought i would bring this up. We know they are keeping zuriels, statius, morrigans and maby brawlers as drops from pking. We don't know how they are actually going to be droped. I didn't mind the old wild because pkers generally wouldn't bother you if you one itemed and did a clue. You had the occasional noob who did it for the lols but it was manageable. What i'm concerned about with the new wild is that anyone might have an equal chance of droping pvp gear. That means that people might start camping clue locations for easy kills. The imature pkers were bad enough in the old wild, we don't need it to actually become a money maker.

Merchanting clans won't have nearly as much influence over the market though because the prices will again be fluid. Sure, they can try to buy up the supply of an item but the thing that made GE manipulation work-- price updates being too slow to accommodate sharp changes in demand/supply-- will be fixed by allowing players to set their own prices outside the bounds of the GE's price caps. They can still buy up items for much but others can still choose to buy at normal price... it doesn't work. Or they might get even worse. There were no really big merchant clans before the ge. Now there are clans with hundreds of members. If they really wanted, they could just station a member at each trade hot spot in every members world and buy up all of an item. Then sell them at a higher price because no one els would be supplying. And not only that but there would be no actual risk in this type of merchanting because items will have a floor price so they could just sell the item back for what they bought it for. For instance i could buy up all the p pots in varrock for 8k each. Then turn around and sell them for 10k. If not many people want to buy for the inflated price then i could just go around and sell for 8k again. People would have to hope that a merchant doesn't get to a seller before they do in order to get pots or be forced to pay the inflated price. Then if the market compensates and everyone starts selling p pots for 10k ea then they could sell them for 9k and still make a profit. merchanting might be even more profitable now since you would no longer have to wait for the ge to update before selling. This is of course if enoogh people want to spend all their time at a market.

Arn't they moving reverants as well? It might actually work out then if both are moved to the same location. Yeah they are. Uh, at least I think they are. Where could they be moved to? We can't just forget they existed without completely obliterating the reason why Stealing Creation exists. Unless, they come up with a story that the Wilderness became unsafe again because the mystics plan went wrong, as it obviously was going to. I imagine a group of Saradominist wizards and/or members of the ZMI coming in and using sacred clay for their own purposes. It might give more meaning to the conflict between the two teams again, as well. Making up lore is fun, I realise now why Jagex does it so much. Whats the lore with revs again? I'm not 100% sure on it. They were souls who died durring the god wars and so roam the wild for whatever reason. And then stealing creation was made to turn sacred clay into bodies for the revs so they could find peace? I don't remember anything about where the clay actually comes from or why the souls are wandering the wild. If they do move it they could greatly expand the lore on it since they will have more room to work with stealing creation then the already cramped wild. Such as, maby move it to an island off the coast of the wild where a great battle took place and an accident destroyed an entire city. The accident could have been casued by or created sacred clay that is being used to create new bodies for the revs and traped the spirits of the fighters on our plane. And more could be added to stealing creation where you actually help to build the bodies and maby get first hand accounts from the revs about what the world was like at the time of the god wars. Knowing jagex though they'll just make it a rush job and have some random portal linking to some random island in the middle of nowhere and have sc remain the same as it is with no explanation.

Arn't they moving reverants as well? It might actually work out then if both are moved to the same location.

This one needs to be moved the most. If not then the entrance will become a pk hot spot with people hopping to either get high end gear from corp slayers or to just annoy people going back to pick up their items after a death. The corp slayers would probably win in a fight but will take food to do so and will make corp trips much harder. And much less profitable because only big teams would be safe. This one is the next one that needs to be, not moved because that would mean reworking the entire quest as well, but at least reworked. Having the beacons accessible from trollheim actually makes more sense if you think about it. Because if some the beacons are only accessable from the wild it means that zemorgouls minions can sneak in and kill the signalers before they can light their fires. If the beacons are moved so that you don't need to go through the wild to get to them then the quest wouldn't need to also be reworked. And it takes i believe around 20-30 minutes to set up for a single beacon run. I havn't done in a while so i'm not sure about that. If you are killed or even forced to tele durring a lighting run then it means that you may have to start a run all over again. And since the adze is meant as an alternative to the dragon axe and isn't much better than it, it doesn't make sense to have the beacons be a lot harder to complete or the adze will be useless. Doesn't really need to be reworked since there is really no need for the temple after the quest and should't be much harder to get through then kbd was before. There is no lore actually tied to clan wars so there should be no problem moving it. Fist of guthix might require more of a rework to move because it does have some lore attached to it. I don't see why this one can't remain in the wild. Get rid of the banker and make it part of the wild and it will be a fun place to train. Like this idea actually, keep the quest as it is and nothing has to be reworked. But maby a miniquest can be added where varrock digs a tunnel to zemorgouls lair in order to spy on his army. It would make more sense then just barging in the front door every time. Moved easilly because there is no lore on this one yet. I think it would actually be fun if you seal up the entrances from the wild and be forced to use the entrace at varrock every time you use the tunnels. Maby even make the portals malfunction more often so there is more of a risk in using the chaos tunnels. Penguins don't really need to be moved from the wild. Just whenever you are doing a penguin run don't bring anything with you into the wild. Doesn't need to be removed since it was fine before the update. Would make clues fun again. The best solution would be to just make pk worlds where all minigames were removed and the entire wild was back to one big kill zone with no safe spots. That way nothing in the skilling worlds actually have to be moved and months and months of developers time isn't spent trying to rework every single minigame and quest in the wild. Although it won't really matter either way because pkers wil rage unless the wild is brought back completly to how it was pre 2007.

Edit: nvm i found it on penguin...

Oh thats just great it looks like mines not in Meiyerditch either.... Gonna recheck the other areas. Where exactly in the penguin area is it?

Mines not on lunar, not at penguin, and not in elf lands.... Why!!!! :thumbdown:

Dracoliches please :thumbsup: no more dumb wyverns, give us the real deal.

Great guide. A few things though. First, for whatever reason, if you don't have a zammy book, book of law has the next best range attack. And ancients is the next best mage attack. second i've always found EE to be better then sgs for healing just because sgs is so random and doesn't heal much pray to make it that useful. ring of rigour is also worth mentioning since it has only a few points less strength then zerker but lets you use specs more often. And I havn't ranged for a long time on tasks but wouldn't mercenary gloves be better now for range slaying? And lastly, the pictures are nice but it would be better if you also had text to go with each because for some people pictures don't load everytime.

You can if you have them camping cyclopse spots. On 112 right now there are 4 cycplose spots that are taken up by ppl who already have d def and helm. And they are getting almost every kill. No. I got 2 just messing around getting a defender. They're EXTREMELY easy to come by, and will crash the moment that place stops being ultra crowded. Which would happen sooner if the helm wasn't tradeable and their wasn't the effect of a new item entering the market and most people then wouldn't stick around for multiple helms. Only the most gigantic morons are going to hoard these assuming they'll rise. It's not going to be the big deal you're making it sound like. Yes it is idiotic, but some people are trying to get as many helms as they can. The helms wil crash but it will take a while and before then its going to be an even greater pain for people trying to get the defender.

You can if you have them camping cyclopse spots. On 112 right now there are 4 cycplose spots that are taken up by ppl who already have d def and helm. And they are getting almost every kill. No. I got 2 just messing around getting a defender. They're EXTREMELY easy to come by, and will crash the moment that place stops being ultra crowded. Which would happen sooner if the helm wasn't tradeable and their wasn't the effect of a new item entering the market and most people then wouldn't stick around for multiple helms.

You can if you have them camping cyclopse spots. On 112 right now there are 4 cycplose spots that are taken up by ppl who already have d def and helm. And they are getting almost every kill.

Jagex failed by making the helm tradeable. Now you got all the merch's sticking around after they get there defenders simply because they have a new item to hoard now.

It depends on my mood. I sometimes do daily farm runs and try to squeeze in as much of the other weeklys then as i can. Do tears while i'm going for lumby tree, pineapples and sea weed on my way through brimhaven tree/calquat, ect. Other then that I don't usually bother. The only one I ususally do is MTK.

Can't wait for dragon defender. Although i'm thinking that getting will be stupid... For some reason I keep getting the image of the living rock patriarch in my mind whenever i think of the new cyclopse...

Would grand tree pods work for the ice if you use it to call a glider? Or is that considered teleing?

1) Yes but look what isn't in this leak as well. Look at the cabels from May-July. What don't you see? What happened in May that had most of the middle east in an uproar. Yet I could not find one single thing regarding the mavi marmara. But there are plenty of cabels regarding Iran and its own nuclear program. The US has been constantly pushing for a stop to Irans nuclear program and this leak shows how many of the surrounding countries might support such an action and could bring more people to the US's side at the next round of sanctions. Or scare Iran into complying willingly if they do realise how many of their allies are against them. In short, the cabels he posted were cherry picked and not just one big random dump as he claimed. That and the balance of power in the gulf has already been undermined with Israels own nuclear program. If anything the neighboring countries would welcome this because it would, theoretically, even out the balance of power. 2.) How has the invasion of Iraq made a war with Iran more likely? Besides their nuclear program which has been constantly looked over by the UN and has found no plans for weaponizing. 3.) sure. 4.) This would require Iran to actually have a motive to risk a confrontation with the US and Israel. 5.) I missed the documents that actually showed this, I'd be interested in a link though. 6.) sure 7.) not familiar with the incident so can't comment.

Fine. if anyone wants to make a new topic and continue there i'll relocate. If not i'll shut up.