M6c_Magnum

Thanks Juader, prices have been updated... actually made spinning BS an even worse possibility 8-)

Were you powermining 2 granite rocks or 3? Or 2 granite and 1 sandstone? Do you mine until a full inventory and then drop? Or drop every 2 or 3? Do you mine on a crowded world (faster spawns)? Do you hold your pickaxe? Does that include randoms? Because I did my tests at like level 80-83ish mining and I don't get anywhere close to 50k / hour??

Hahahahahahaha, at first, when I was reading this, I was like Qeltar... are you high? What the HECK are you talking about? And then when I read the last sentence it all made sense :lol: I agree with him by the way.

Ahh, I forgot about gems (well forgot to write about them up above) Gems - Uncut Sapphire: How much are these each (GE price)? Amount to 50: 1,767 Total time: This would probably be pretty fast, actually, probably the same exact speed of hard leather bodies? Maybe faster because you only need a chisel + gems, not thread + needle + leather... ?? How long does it take to cut a full inventory of gems, about? Profit: What is the price of a cut sapphire? How much can a cut sapphire sell for? Profit would be 1767 * price of uncut minus 1767 * price of cut.... Exp/hour: need more information How much do rubies cost uncut? How much do they sell for cut? How much do emeralds cost uncut? How much do they sell for cut? If anyone is at the GE and could check prices, that'd be really helpful as I cant go to the GE right now... ??

Money isn't really a big problem, and I want to get 48-50ish crafting (and I'm currently at level 29)... I've looked into some ways and here's what I've found so far, but I need more information: Spinning - Flax: 65ea Bowstrings: 150ea Amount to 50: 5,889 Total time: I have heard you can spin about 1000 every 65 minutes or so... 5,889/1000 = 5.889 * 65 = 382.8 / 60 = 6 hours 23 minutes Profit: 500,565 gp Exp/hour: 13.8k Silver - Tiara mould - 1gp Silver ore - ??? how much is this? Amount to 50: 1,683 Total time: No idea - when you go to make tiaras, and you have 27 silver ore in your inventory and the mould, do all of the tiaras get made instantly at the furnace, or one at a time? If instant, I'm guessing like 50seconds per trip? If not, then like 2 minutes? If instant, it would be 63 trips at 50 seconds = 63 * 50 = 3150 / 60 = 52.5 minutes If it's not instant, it would be 63 * 120 = 7560 / 60 = 2 hours 6 minutes Profit: I don't know how much silver ore costs, but if it is 500each, then that would be negative 841,500 gp but add the sale price of tiara (1gp or so? lol) Exp/hour: If it takes 53 minutes, that's 100k/hour If it takes 126 minutes, thats 42k/hour Leather - Hard Leather: 130ea + 1.25 hour (to tan 2k) Amount to 50: 2,524 Total time: No idea... how long does it take to string a full inventory of hard leather bodies?, but whatever that is, add 1.25 hours for the time to tan the leather Profit: negative 328,120 Exp/hour: I need more info. OKAY, sorry that is really confusing, but I need the questions in bold answered... I was thinking of it like this: Obviously, the spinning flax has the most profit (no loss of profit), but it takes WAY longer than tiaras and hard leather. It takes 382 minutes to do the flax, but only 53 or 126 minutes for the tiaras... Assuming 126 for tiaras, that would mean I would finish 256 minutes faster than with flax, and the question is: can I make back the negative profit in that time? 256 minutes to make 841,500 gp + match the profits of 500,565 gp from flax = 1342065 / 256 = 5242 That means, if I can make 5242 GP /minute, the tiara method would be better... thats 315k/hour.... Assuming it takes 53 for tiaras, I would have 329 minutes to spare... 1342065 / 329 = 4079 gp/minute to match, or 245k/hour............ So, as you can see, I really need the bold questions to be filled in and accurate so that I can make a correct judgement on which method to use! EDIT: Updated flax/BS prices

+1 But if you play in free use a power amulet, iron dagger and the highest armor set you can use, Iron dagger beats all the weapons stated above, I have tested it also. I was thinking about the iron dagger earlier, too... I went to the tip.it max-hit calculator and no matter which of the three weapons you use, the max hit would be 1... so you might as well get the dagger as it is fastest :) And yea, if you are going to do range on your account, just do range now and use long-range mode, as that gives DEF xp and range xp...

In the few guides I have read about powermining, people (quite a few) have claimed to be getting around 50-55k / hour XP for mining granite and then dropping it... I've only seemed to be able to get 579 xp / minute, which comes to 35k / hour. I time myself when I mine: Time Experience 19-- 11,090 41-- 21,095 43-- 28,120 39-- 20,125 54-- 33,015 40-- 22,940 11-- 7,200 26-- 15,435 30-- 17,525 19-- 9,465 9-- 5,525 Toals: 331 minutes, getting 191,535 xp That seems really low compared to what other people claim to get - other people even claim 38k / hour powermining iron (which is typically a lot slower, I get like 30k/hour doing iron)

Yea, forgot about those quest requirements, too You could always take tons of purple sweets to beat that monster :P or just keep trying and get really lucky lol And darn, this was moved to the guides section :/ It's not really guide-material, as it's a sloppy little list with no pictures or stats lol 8-)

You can get it for free doing a mini-game if you are a member. It's better than iron scimitar and blurite/silverlight, so I was just telling you the best I know of/you can get... Plus, 100k isn't even that much, that's freaking cheap 8-)

Whoops, sorry, I read that wrong, thought meant like free items to wear (like you were poor or something? :P) Iron scimitar: Stab: 2 Slash: 10 Crush: -2 Blurite sword: Stab: 9 Slash: 14 Crush: -2 Silverlight: Stab: 9 Slash: 14 Crush: -2 Seems blurite and silverlight are the same, and both better than iron scimitar.

I tried my best to not include quest items that either A) require defence to start or B) quests that you have to complete to get the item and give a DEF reward. If a quest doesn't require DEF to start and you get the armor piece in the middle of the quest (without having to finish), and gives a DEF reward, I included it, as you can just get the items and not finish. Desert Treasure: The Restless Ghost has no requirements.

You can get clues from pickpocketing HAM members, you could try that for a change of scenery and some thieving XP Also, triple check your bank lol

Are you a member? If so, drop the Iron Scimitar and buy a Red Topaz Machete, I believe they are better.

The sink by the RFD bank in Lumbridge is pretty close to the bank chest...

That was the initial reason, yea. I figured :/ That's why I'm looking for another item :evil: Nice find :D

Thanks :D list updated and yea, I'm pretty sure you can wear RFD gloves no matter what defence level, provided you can complete the quests for it

Can you use Rotten Tomatoes outside of the Duel Arena/those cage things? I didnt think you could..

Wow.... What you are doing seems like it would not only not be good for abuse and reporting system, but would actually work against it. You are basically saying that you will report anyone whose actions you do not like or disagree with, in hopes that at least some will be bots. That seems to be very similar to what Jagex did with staking. To allude to another of Qeltar's articles, you are trying to cure a disease by killing the patient. What you are justifying is like Jagex saying, "We are banning 90% of all users for RWT. We know that some people are not RWTers, but hopefully a few RWTers get banned and the remaining 10% will benefit." Remove all staking to eliminate some RWT? Take down good players while taking down bad? Also, the report feature would no doubt be a lot more efficient if the reports were more accurate. Jagex has to sift through faulty reports to find the legitimate ones. This time could even take longer than it would have taken for Jagex to find these bots/rule-breakers on their own. I think that if a person has a significantly low % of accurate reports, that person should have the option to report (for certain rules at least) removed. That would eliminate a lot of "0mg b0t! report!" or "0mg give me money or i will rep0rt"/"0mg im not noob, i report u". Which would be good. Also note, being a skiller myself, I find this more personal than some may, as it gets FREAKING ANNOYING answering "are you a bot?" or responding to "lol a bot"... even when I wear my Green H'ween, people still ask... wtf? Haha people need to stop being pretend mods - especially when they don't even know the rules themselves

I thought that would work, except the other day I drank a beer (brought my attack level to 0), but then I still did 1 damage with flowers...? That's what made me search for an item that cannot do any damage but still works as an attack (like initiates a fight and makes a monster fight back) and I seemed to have found one: Mud Pie. That made me think there could be other items out there... and not really weapons; items that you can use on another player/monster that doesn't do damage but changes the person/monster's stats in some way

Yes, any potion or item that lowers any stats :P Ahhh, Undead chicken - very similar to flowers, nice :P

Zamorak brew(4) Hmm about the Poison chalice, Tip.it says

http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?p ... _guide.htm In the Other Armour section of the Quest Armour, it says: Shouldn't that say Anti-dragon shield? :P

Hey! It's not my fault Jagex made the picture for Dragonfire Shield and the Anti-dragon shield practically identical :P EDIT: ACTUALLY, Jagex isn't wrong, the Tip.it guide is :P It says "Dragonfire Shield 0 0 0 0 0 +7 +9 +8 +2 +8 0 0 You can get this by talking to the Duke of Lumbridge in Lumbridge Castle after you have started the Dragon Slayer quest and spoken to Oziach." in this guide! Let me fix that... And: Where in the interface does it show you what you can wear? This isn't a tip :P I want to discuss this and get more items on the list and bad ones removed

I have been trying to find a list of weapons that do ZERO damage whatsoever... Also, I've been looking for things that make you weaker Here are some of the WEAK weapons I have found: Flowers Rubber chicken Undead chicken Mouse toy Here are some things that make a person WEAKER: Karambwan** (poorly cooked) Zamorak Brew(3) Saradomin brew(3) Kebab Axeman's Folly Bad Wine Bandit's Brew Beer Bottle of wine Braindeath Rum Brandy Chef's Delight Dwarven Stout Greenman's Ale Grog Half Jug of Wine (.. feel bad for whoever tested this to find effects :P) Karamjan Rum Keg of Beer Slayer's Respite Vodka Whisky Wine Wizard Mind Bomb The only weapon I have found that does ZERO damage no matter what: Mud Pie Are there any other weapons that do ZERO damage ?!?!?! Thanks

Anyone know where I can find a list of armour that a level 1 defence person can use? This can help pures and skillers and people with generally low defence. If there is none that people know of, let's make one for future reference: Elemental Shield Bronze helmet, shield, legs, body, boots Iron helmet, shield, legs, body, boots Obsidian cape Khazard Helmet Khazard Armour Anti-dragon shield All normal amulets (including Fury Amulet) All normal staffs (regular, magic, air, water, earth, fire) Blue/Dark Wizard Hat Blue/Dark Wizard Robe Robe(s) of Zamorak Gnomes' Hats Holy/Balance/Unholy Books Ghostly Hood Ghostly Robe Top Ghostly Robe Bottom Ghostly Gloves Ghostly Boots Ghostly Cloak Desert camo top/bottom Jungle camo top/bottom Polar camo top/bottom Wood camo top/bottom Bearhead Cowl Coif Leather Body Leather Chaps Studded Leather Chaps Vambraces Spined gloves/boots Snakeskin Armour, no body (can someone confirm this and coifs, please?) Green/Blue/Red/Black dragonhide chaps Green/Blue/Red/Black dragonhide vambraces Robin Hood Hat Ranger Boots Archers ring Berserker ring (can someone confirm these two rings?) Ava's Attractor/Accumulator Gloves (regular, Fremennik, RFD) Fremennik boots, capes, hats, etc. Training shield/sword Tribal masks (green, white, yellow) Monk robes Climbing boots Spottier/Spotted Cape Boots of lightness Clothing: [hide]A powdered wig Skills capes Beret (blue, black, white) Cavalier (black, dark, Black skirt/robes Bob shirts 1,2,3,4,5 Chef's hat Desert robes/boots Elegant shirts/skirts/blouses (all colors) Flared Trousers Random event clothing (frog, camo, mime, etc) Boaters Party Hats Santa Hat H'ween Masks Highwayman Mask ............. list of clothing is too long.. pretty much everything here.[/hide] Weapons/items a level 1 attack/strength can wield: Flowers Iron/Bronze Halberd Staff (of Air/Earth/Fire/Water) Guthix/Saradomin/Zamorak Mjolnir Iron/Bronze Scimitar (and other weapons) Machete and variants (Red topaz, Jade, Opal) Blurite sword Ghostspeak amulet Spatula Wooden Spoon Banners Undead Chicken Tzhaar-ket-om -Maul- (1 attack, but 60 str) Silverlight Did I miss anything? Is anything wrong? Thanks :)